Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Hi Ben LH is for T production FSH is for sperm production but there are some researchers who say FSH also plays a role (but they don't know yet)on the T production side of things as well. It could just be that maybe the LH cells on your pit are fewer than the FSH producing ones. I have heard that FSh actually stays in the blood longer than LH at times. HAve you had a demand test done ? for example with clomid etc to prove that it is actually secondary hypogoandism? Manraj > > Hi everyone, > > I'm wondering if anyone can tell me the relationship between LH and > FSH - ie is there any reason why one would be normal and the other > low? Here is my situation: I have secondary hypogonadism and have been > on injections 1X a week for about a year. I am finally trying to > transition off, and I had my blood drawn last week about 3 weeks after > my last shot. My LH was low, 0.9 with reference of 1.5-9.3, but my FSH > was back to normal, 3.1 with a reference of 1.8-14.1. I thought that > LH and FSH were both released by the action of the same hormone. Is > there any explanation you guys can think of, or am I being too > obsessive over these results? > > Thanks, > Ben > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 > > Hi everyone, > > I'm wondering if anyone can tell me the relationship between LH and > FSH - ie is there any reason why one would be normal and the other > low? Here is my situation: I have secondary hypogonadism and have been > on injections 1X a week for about a year. I am finally trying to > transition off, and I had my blood drawn last week about 3 weeks after > my last shot. My LH was low, 0.9 with reference of 1.5-9.3, but my FSH > was back to normal, 3.1 with a reference of 1.8-14.1. I thought that > LH and FSH were both released by the action of the same hormone. Is > there any explanation you guys can think of, or am I being too > obsessive over these results? > > Thanks, > Ben Hi Ben I am secondary too. Look your FSH is still low normal. My LH and FSH varies as well because of the pulsating action of the release of hormones but never rises to the high normal or middle normal range. It depends on the the time of draw if you are very low or sometimes normal but still low. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 i may be wrrong but surely both of those readings are still low both lh and fsh should really be higher than that at least 5 yes referance ranges may say one is normal and other is just in the low range but neither of those figures i would say are high or really normal its all down to these silly rranges the labs use my labs have LH as 1-9 FSH as 1-19 someytims 2 to 19 but i hover around 1-3 on both lh and fsh ,as weach time you have done its only a current snapshot of that time,3 hours earlwir you may of been lower slightly or higher,and the results should be treated as an indication and not set in stone as a specifc figure. dont know how these work but i do bleeive that when labs say our low ranges are normal we are being treated as fools regards paul LH and FSH Hi everyone, I'm wondering if anyone can tell me the relationship between LH and FSH - ie is there any reason why one would be normal and the other low? Here is my situation: I have secondary hypogonadism and have been on injections 1X a week for about a year. I am finally trying to transition off, and I had my blood drawn last week about 3 weeks after my last shot. My LH was low, 0.9 with reference of 1.5-9.3, but my FSH was back to normal, 3.1 with a reference of 1.8-14.1. I thought that LH and FSH were both released by the action of the same hormone. Is there any explanation you guys can think of, or am I being too obsessive over these results? Thanks, Ben ___________________________________________________________ All new " The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use. " - PC Magazine http://uk.docs./nowyoucan.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Ben, Hormones are tricky buggers. They flucuate widely throughout the day/night. If you did the same tests today, the numbers would look differently still. It had been 3 weeks since your last injection. When does the Doc suggest another check? Maybe it's a little early to expect more " normal " readings. And, to answer your other question...yeah, IMHO, living by a bunch of ever changing numbers is asking for an ulcer! Time will tell you what your body requires. Good Luck, Lt. In , " btcarter777 " <btcarter777@...> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I'm wondering if anyone can tell me the relationship between LH and > FSH - ie is there any reason why one would be normal and the other > low? Here is my situation: I have secondary hypogonadism and have been > on injections 1X a week for about a year. I am finally trying to > transition off, and I had my blood drawn last week about 3 weeks after > my last shot. My LH was low, 0.9 with reference of 1.5-9.3, but my FSH > was back to normal, 3.1 with a reference of 1.8-14.1. I thought that > LH and FSH were both released by the action of the same hormone. Is > there any explanation you guys can think of, or am I being too > obsessive over these results? > > Thanks, > Ben > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 in both tests on lh and fsh ytou have had done both show they are still low,the lab results say now normal on oneb but this in reality is not the case both figures for your lh and fsh are low as mine indeed arre the fluctuations you have had are actually very small,if your lh and fsh were both 5 or above or on e was .9 and the other 16 but .9 and 3 is nothing much and still low regards paul Re: LH and FSH Ben, Hormones are tricky buggers. They flucuate widely throughout the day/night. If you did the same tests today, the numbers would look differently still. It had been 3 weeks since your last injection. When does the Doc suggest another check? Maybe it's a little early to expect more " normal " readings. And, to answer your other question...yeah, IMHO, living by a bunch of ever changing numbers is asking for an ulcer! Time will tell you what your body requires. Good Luck, Lt. In , " btcarter777 " <btcarter777@ ...> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I'm wondering if anyone can tell me the relationship between LH and > FSH - ie is there any reason why one would be normal and the other > low? Here is my situation: I have secondary hypogonadism and have been > on injections 1X a week for about a year. I am finally trying to > transition off, and I had my blood drawn last week about 3 weeks after > my last shot. My LH was low, 0.9 with reference of 1.5-9.3, but my FSH > was back to normal, 3.1 with a reference of 1.8-14.1. I thought that > LH and FSH were both released by the action of the same hormone. Is > there any explanation you guys can think of, or am I being too > obsessive over these results? > > Thanks, > Ben > ___________________________________________________________ All New – Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs./nowyoucan.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 You are not off the TRT long enough and you FSH is very low LH is up and down fast so you could have just done the test on it's low cycle. Why are you off TRT for what reasion if they know your secondary why stop. Your going to crash and it will take a long time to get back up. When one is on TRT they need to test Estradiol if this is up or high it will keep you down. Phil btcarter777 <btcarter777@...> wrote: Hi everyone, I'm wondering if anyone can tell me the relationship between LH and FSH - ie is there any reason why one would be normal and the other low? Here is my situation: I have secondary hypogonadism and have been on injections 1X a week for about a year. I am finally trying to transition off, and I had my blood drawn last week about 3 weeks after my last shot. My LH was low, 0.9 with reference of 1.5-9.3, but my FSH was back to normal, 3.1 with a reference of 1.8-14.1. I thought that LH and FSH were both released by the action of the same hormone. Is there any explanation you guys can think of, or am I being too obsessive over these results? Thanks, Ben --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Thanks for the responses, everyone. To clarify - I am secondary, and a young guy, so my doctor is hoping that by transitioning off of the testosterone my own body's production will pick up again and I won't need the TRT anymore. This is why I hadn't had an injection for 3 weeks - I am gradually spacing out my injections with hope that my body will start its own production. Manraj, to answer your question, no, I have not had a demand test done. A previous doctor I was seeing suggested it but then I had to switch doctors, and when I saw this new guy I couldn't remember the name of what he had suggested, until you mentioned it just now. I think he called it a " challenge test " , actually. Do you have any details or a link describing the test so that I can ask this new guy about it? Thanks, Ben > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'm wondering if anyone can tell me the relationship between LH and > > FSH - ie is there any reason why one would be normal and the other > > low? Here is my situation: I have secondary hypogonadism and have > been > > on injections 1X a week for about a year. I am finally trying to > > transition off, and I had my blood drawn last week about 3 weeks > after > > my last shot. My LH was low, 0.9 with reference of 1.5-9.3, but my > FSH > > was back to normal, 3.1 with a reference of 1.8-14.1. I thought > that > > LH and FSH were both released by the action of the same hormone. Is > > there any explanation you guys can think of, or am I being too > > obsessive over these results? > > > > Thanks, > > Ben > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 01:04:56 -0000, you wrote: >Hi everyone, > >I'm wondering if anyone can tell me the relationship between LH and >FSH - ie is there any reason why one would be normal and the other >low? Here is my situation: I have secondary hypogonadism and have been >on injections 1X a week for about a year. I am finally trying to >transition off, and I had my blood drawn last week about 3 weeks after >my last shot. My LH was low, 0.9 with reference of 1.5-9.3, but my FSH >was back to normal, 3.1 with a reference of 1.8-14.1. I thought that >LH and FSH were both released by the action of the same hormone. Is >there any explanation you guys can think of, or am I being too >obsessive over these results? > >Thanks, >Ben They are produced in separate parts of the pituitary. It's possible you have damage in a part of the pituitary related to just one. ----- " Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit atrocities. " - Voltaire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I think you will find them in the AACE Guildlines. http://www.aace.com/pub/pdf/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf Phil btcarter777 <btcarter777@...> wrote: Thanks for the responses, everyone. To clarify - I am secondary, and a young guy, so my doctor is hoping that by transitioning off of the testosterone my own body's production will pick up again and I won't need the TRT anymore. This is why I hadn't had an injection for 3 weeks - I am gradually spacing out my injections with hope that my body will start its own production. Manraj, to answer your question, no, I have not had a demand test done. A previous doctor I was seeing suggested it but then I had to switch doctors, and when I saw this new guy I couldn't remember the name of what he had suggested, until you mentioned it just now. I think he called it a " challenge test " , actually. Do you have any details or a link describing the test so that I can ask this new guy about it? Thanks, Ben > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'm wondering if anyone can tell me the relationship between LH and > > FSH - ie is there any reason why one would be normal and the other > > low? Here is my situation: I have secondary hypogonadism and have > been > > on injections 1X a week for about a year. I am finally trying to > > transition off, and I had my blood drawn last week about 3 weeks > after > > my last shot. My LH was low, 0.9 with reference of 1.5-9.3, but my > FSH > > was back to normal, 3.1 with a reference of 1.8-14.1. I thought > that > > LH and FSH were both released by the action of the same hormone. Is > > there any explanation you guys can think of, or am I being too > > obsessive over these results? > > > > Thanks, > > Ben > > > --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:49:50 -0000, you wrote: > >Thanks for the responses, everyone. To clarify - I am secondary, and a >young guy, so my doctor is hoping that by transitioning off of the >testosterone my own body's production will pick up again and I won't >need the TRT anymore. This is why I hadn't had an injection for 3 >weeks - I am gradually spacing out my injections with hope that my >body will start its own production. Manraj, to answer your question, >no, I have not had a demand test done. A previous doctor I was seeing >suggested it but then I had to switch doctors, and when I saw this new >guy I couldn't remember the name of what he had suggested, until you >mentioned it just now. I think he called it a " challenge test " , >actually. Do you have any details or a link describing the test so >that I can ask this new guy about it? > >Thanks, >Ben Doctors sometimes push the natural system to produce with clomid or HCG. You might talk with them about that. ----- " Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit atrocities. " - Voltaire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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