Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 I feel this is why you need to retest your E2 and do Total E's to be sure you did not go back up or keep going down. The fact the you did get wood means you will always get wood when you find the does you need to take to keep your E2 in range. If I got to low I lose wood I have to go dam high to lose wood again but remember we all are not the same. Your all most there keep testing. Phil Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote: Phil I guess you know my case better than most. The only two morning erections that I have had is the first morning after taking Cialis and the 3rd morning. Since then I have not had any more. They were really good ones though. I didn't feel amorous until this past week. Had sex but no orgasm again. I am having another blood test next week. I was wondering what affect HIGH T would have on this condition. I will find out where I am on it then. I am still on T, Arimidex and Cialis regularly. Could it be that I am having nocturnal erections without knowing it? I noticed an odor that smelled like cum this morning!! Blessings, Roy __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Before I take my test I will add E2 to the mix. I may have gone right past it. I guess the single test after starting Arimidex doesn't tell the whole story. Thanks, Roy philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: I feel this is why you need to retest your E2 and do Total E's to be sure you did not go back up or keep going down. The fact the you did get wood means you will always get wood when you find the does you need to take to keep your E2 in range. If I got to low I lose wood I have to go dam high to lose wood again but remember we all are not the same. Your all most there keep testing. Phil Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote: Phil I guess you know my case better than most. The only two morning erections that I have had is the first morning after taking Cialis and the 3rd morning. Since then I have not had any more. They were really good ones though. I didn't feel amorous until this past week. Had sex but no orgasm again. I am having another blood test next week. I was wondering what affect HIGH T would have on this condition. I will find out where I am on it then. I am still on T, Arimidex and Cialis regularly. Could it be that I am having nocturnal erections without knowing it? I noticed an odor that smelled like cum this morning!! Blessings, Roy __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Before I take my test I will add E2 to the mix. I may have gone right past it. I guess the single test after starting Arimidex doesn't tell the whole story. Thanks, Roy philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: I feel this is why you need to retest your E2 and do Total E's to be sure you did not go back up or keep going down. The fact the you did get wood means you will always get wood when you find the does you need to take to keep your E2 in range. If I got to low I lose wood I have to go dam high to lose wood again but remember we all are not the same. Your all most there keep testing. Phil Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote: Phil I guess you know my case better than most. The only two morning erections that I have had is the first morning after taking Cialis and the 3rd morning. Since then I have not had any more. They were really good ones though. I didn't feel amorous until this past week. Had sex but no orgasm again. I am having another blood test next week. I was wondering what affect HIGH T would have on this condition. I will find out where I am on it then. I am still on T, Arimidex and Cialis regularly. Could it be that I am having nocturnal erections without knowing it? I noticed an odor that smelled like cum this morning!! Blessings, Roy __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Yes and I did say you need to keep testing it until you find a dose that keeps you in the zone. I was going to low on .25 mgs once a week. And at the time I was doing more T then you were. But hell I weight a lot more then you so I will bet your going to low. Phil Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote: Before I take my test I will add E2 to the mix. I may have gone right past it. I guess the single test after starting Arimidex doesn't tell the whole story. Thanks, Roy philip georgian wrote: I feel this is why you need to retest your E2 and do Total E's to be sure you did not go back up or keep going down. The fact the you did get wood means you will always get wood when you find the does you need to take to keep your E2 in range. If I got to low I lose wood I have to go dam high to lose wood again but remember we all are not the same. Your all most there keep testing. Phil Roy wrote: Phil I guess you know my case better than most. The only two morning erections that I have had is the first morning after taking Cialis and the 3rd morning. Since then I have not had any more. They were really good ones though. I didn't feel amorous until this past week. Had sex but no orgasm again. I am having another blood test next week. I was wondering what affect HIGH T would have on this condition. I will find out where I am on it then. I am still on T, Arimidex and Cialis regularly. Could it be that I am having nocturnal erections without knowing it? I noticed an odor that smelled like cum this morning!! Blessings, Roy __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Morning folks.. It seems a lot of side effects from having low Testosterone is being blamed on having high estrogen and I'm confused in terms of why... E2 is higher in older males. I don't blame my testiclar hypogonaidsm on having high E2. And I had three sugeries for having Gynecomastia. My results where in the slighty above range but I'm sure while taking TRT those results should be lower. May be if certain males are on TRT, it may be a situation where another drug is causing the unbalanced ranges from E2 but I think, it's premature to continue and blame high E2 on not having erections as I put it and not the " W " term. It's so many angles you can preceive from not having morning erections. -Make sure you are on the right TRT. For example, I have erections like crazy. Have the notion to release which I don't care for given, it's Mr Hand and no female body part or parts. -Make sure no medications is causing Gynecomastia and higher estrogen levels while on a a proper TRT. -Consider your age. It could be different angles in why you don't receive erections. If your blood work for free and total T is improving while on a proper TRT, then that can be preceived as something more than having high Estrogen given, if TRT is working and your blood work show your free and total T is increasing, it shouldn't be a concern of higher Estrogen considering the simple formula Improving Testosterone = Decreasing Estrogen. Every since I started on TRT of last year, I didn't receive erections. I'm 28, 29 next month sir. It was because I had primary hypgonadism and had a bad combination of low T (side effects) and slighty higher Estrogen thus, walking around with breast. Now I'm on the proper TRT but may need a higher doses than 400 MG soon, I am experiencing what males have been all their lives; the healthy ones and it's scary. I wish you luck Sir. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 You might be right Phil. Anyway I will also check E2 I may have gone past so fast that I didn't notice it. Good idea. Sure is a balanceing act with one hand isn't it? Roy philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: Yes and I did say you need to keep testing it until you find a dose that keeps you in the zone. I was going to low on .25 mgs once a week. And at the time I was doing more T then you were. But hell I weight a lot more then you so I will bet your going to low. Phil Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote: Before I take my test I will add E2 to the mix. I may have gone right past it. I guess the single test after starting Arimidex doesn't tell the whole story. Thanks, Roy philip georgian wrote: I feel this is why you need to retest your E2 and do Total E's to be sure you did not go back up or keep going down. The fact the you did get wood means you will always get wood when you find the does you need to take to keep your E2 in range. If I got to low I lose wood I have to go dam high to lose wood again but remember we all are not the same. Your all most there keep testing. Phil Roy wrote: Phil I guess you know my case better than most. The only two morning erections that I have had is the first morning after taking Cialis and the 3rd morning. Since then I have not had any more. They were really good ones though. I didn't feel amorous until this past week. Had sex but no orgasm again. I am having another blood test next week. I was wondering what affect HIGH T would have on this condition. I will find out where I am on it then. I am still on T, Arimidex and Cialis regularly. Could it be that I am having nocturnal erections without knowing it? I noticed an odor that smelled like cum this morning!! Blessings, Roy __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 > I am still on T, Arimidex and Cialis regularly. Could > it be that I am having nocturnal erections without knowing it? Hi, since I've been on Test, arimidex, and cialis as needed (I'm single and dating... so there's no need for cialis if GF isn't present ya know)... but GF and I will make love in the evening a time or two and then she'll wake me up in the middle of the night for another round or two when she notices I've got another erection at say... 2-3am... and I can go another couple of rounds (though like others I sometimes don't orgasm on the 4th time for example)... and since cialis is " le weekender " I'd say it's very possible you're having nocturnal erections (fairly normal anyway). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Hey Roy I think I am not sure but Since you said you smelled like cum and you are not sure If you are getting it I think I heard it here do the stamp test you know what I mean put stamp on the head of your dick then if it breaks in the morning you must had one may be some one will elabrate here as for me I have sleeping problem so most the time I am not sure If I had one or not. On the other hand when I was on androgel I use to smell something like that on my brief when I wake up. So I am not sure which it is but you are with the very best group like phil and many other members here so I hope you get some help. Jack, > > I feel this is why you need to retest your E2 and do Total E's to be sure you did not go back up or keep going down. The fact the you did get wood means you will always get wood when you find the does you need to take to keep your E2 in range. If I got to low I lose wood I have to go dam high to lose wood again but remember we all are not the same. Your all most there keep testing. > Phil > > Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote: > Phil I guess you know my case better than most. The only two morning erections that > I have had is the first morning after taking Cialis and the 3rd morning. Since then I have not had any more. They were really good ones though. I didn't feel amorous > until this past week. Had sex but no orgasm again. I am having another blood test > next week. I was wondering what affect HIGH T would have on this condition. I will > find out where I am on it then. I am still on T, Arimidex and Cialis regularly. Could > it be that I am having nocturnal erections without knowing it? I noticed an odor > that smelled like cum this morning!! > Blessings, > Roy > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Hi Jack, I remember that stamp test somewhere but I don't know exactly how to use it, can you elaborate on that so I can try it? This has happened to me twice now and I am guessing that I am have erections. Thanks for the suggestion if I only knew how to use it now! Can anyone here let me know about the stamp test? Please advise! Thanks for the kind compliment Jack, you didn't have to say that! Roy jack <myhormonez@...> wrote: Hey Roy I think I am not sure but Since you said you smelled like cum and you are not sure If you are getting it I think I heard it here do the stamp test you know what I mean put stamp on the head of your dick then if it breaks in the morning you must had one may be some one will elabrate here as for me I have sleeping problem so most the time I am not sure If I had one or not. On the other hand when I was on androgel I use to smell something like that on my brief when I wake up. So I am not sure which it is but you are with the very best group like phil and many other members here so I hope you get some help. Jack, > > I feel this is why you need to retest your E2 and do Total E's to be sure you did not go back up or keep going down. The fact the you did get wood means you will always get wood when you find the does you need to take to keep your E2 in range. If I got to low I lose wood I have to go dam high to lose wood again but remember we all are not the same. Your all most there keep testing. > Phil > > Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote: > Phil I guess you know my case better than most. The only two morning erections that > I have had is the first morning after taking Cialis and the 3rd morning. Since then I have not had any more. They were really good ones though. I didn't feel amorous > until this past week. Had sex but no orgasm again. I am having another blood test > next week. I was wondering what affect HIGH T would have on this condition. I will > find out where I am on it then. I am still on T, Arimidex and Cialis regularly. Could > it be that I am having nocturnal erections without knowing it? I noticed an odor > that smelled like cum this morning!! > Blessings, > Roy > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 > > Morning folks.. It seems a lot of side effects from having low Testosterone is being blamed on having high estrogen and I'm confused in terms of why... > > E2 is higher in older males. I don't blame my testiclar hypogonaidsm on having high E2. And I had three sugeries for having Gynecomastia. My results where in the slighty above range but I'm sure while taking TRT those results should be lower. It may not be " high " E2, it may be a low T to E2 ratio. Mine was about 180/84 or 2:1 before HRT & I had big breasts all my life. Still have them. Now the ration is above 15:1. The morning erections are now about 3 time a week. Sex is excellent like it was as a 20 year old when I had a bit more T. When the Total T is tested get the E2 tested & check the ratio. I think I read that " normal " was from 20:1 up to 50:1 ratio for no breast growth. So if your T is above 500 & your E2 is below 25 then the breast growth will stop if not cause by other problems. Why have you spent so much money on getting them removed. Is the final appearance worth the money & pain? Most Gyne men just keep them. ><snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Hi can you give us links this on E2 to T ratios. Phil gin2c <no_reply > wrote: > > Morning folks.. It seems a lot of side effects from having low Testosterone is being blamed on having high estrogen and I'm confused in terms of why... > > E2 is higher in older males. I don't blame my testiclar hypogonaidsm on having high E2. And I had three sugeries for having Gynecomastia. My results where in the slighty above range but I'm sure while taking TRT those results should be lower. It may not be " high " E2, it may be a low T to E2 ratio. Mine was about 180/84 or 2:1 before HRT & I had big breasts all my life. Still have them. Now the ration is above 15:1. The morning erections are now about 3 time a week. Sex is excellent like it was as a 20 year old when I had a bit more T. When the Total T is tested get the E2 tested & check the ratio. I think I read that " normal " was from 20:1 up to 50:1 ratio for no breast growth. So if your T is above 500 & your E2 is below 25 then the breast growth will stop if not cause by other problems. Why have you spent so much money on getting them removed. Is the final appearance worth the money & pain? Most Gyne men just keep them. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 > > > > Morning folks.. It seems a lot of side effects from having low > Testosterone is being blamed on having high estrogen and I'm confused > in terms of why... > > > > E2 is higher in older males. I don't blame my testiclar > hypogonaidsm on having high E2. And I had three sugeries for having > Gynecomastia. My results where in the slighty above range but I'm > sure while taking TRT those results should be lower. > > > It may not be " high " E2, it may be a low T to E2 ratio. > Mine was about 180/84 or 2:1 before HRT & I had big breasts all my > life. Still have them. Now the ration is above 15:1. The morning > erections are now about 3 time a week. Sex is excellent like it was > as a 20 year old when I had a bit more T. > > When the Total T is tested get the E2 tested & check the ratio. > > I think I read that " normal " was from 20:1 up to 50:1 ratio for no > breast growth. So if your T is above 500 & your E2 is below 25 then > the breast growth will stop if not cause by other problems. > > Why have you spent so much money on getting them removed. Is the > final appearance worth the money & pain? > > Most Gyne men just keep them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Prior to TRT my Total T was 180 and E2 was 30 6:1 - no breast tissue growth but was developing fat deposits in chest (and all over). Since being on TRT my ratio is more like 50:1 and have lost fat everywhere including the chest. No boob issues. Arkansas gin2c <no_reply > wrote: > > > > Morning folks.. It seems a lot of side effects from having low > Testosterone is being blamed on having high estrogen and I'm confused > in terms of why... > > > > E2 is higher in older males. I don't blame my testiclar > hypogonaidsm on having high E2. And I had three sugeries for having > Gynecomastia. My results where in the slighty above range but I'm > sure while taking TRT those results should be lower. > > > It may not be " high " E2, it may be a low T to E2 ratio. > Mine was about 180/84 or 2:1 before HRT & I had big breasts all my > life. Still have them. Now the ration is above 15:1. The morning > erections are now about 3 time a week. Sex is excellent like it was > as a 20 year old when I had a bit more T. > > When the Total T is tested get the E2 tested & check the ratio. > > I think I read that " normal " was from 20:1 up to 50:1 ratio for no > breast growth. So if your T is above 500 & your E2 is below 25 then > the breast growth will stop if not cause by other problems. > > Why have you spent so much money on getting them removed. Is the > final appearance worth the money & pain? > > Most Gyne men just keep them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Good info thanks I am 48 to 1. Phil gin2c <no_reply > wrote: > > > > Morning folks.. It seems a lot of side effects from having low > Testosterone is being blamed on having high estrogen and I'm confused > in terms of why... > > > > E2 is higher in older males. I don't blame my testiclar > hypogonaidsm on having high E2. And I had three sugeries for having > Gynecomastia. My results where in the slighty above range but I'm > sure while taking TRT those results should be lower. > > > It may not be " high " E2, it may be a low T to E2 ratio. > Mine was about 180/84 or 2:1 before HRT & I had big breasts all my > life. Still have them. Now the ration is above 15:1. The morning > erections are now about 3 time a week. Sex is excellent like it was > as a 20 year old when I had a bit more T. > > When the Total T is tested get the E2 tested & check the ratio. > > I think I read that " normal " was from 20:1 up to 50:1 ratio for no > breast growth. So if your T is above 500 & your E2 is below 25 then > the breast growth will stop if not cause by other problems. > > Why have you spent so much money on getting them removed. Is the > final appearance worth the money & pain? > > Most Gyne men just keep them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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