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your levels are still to low I try to keep my Total and Free T levels up

into the upper 1/3 of my labs range. Your total is below the mid range try to

get it over 600. Your Free will come up with this and your low Estradiol. Get

on some DHEA your very low I take 25 mgs a day and it gets me to mid range.

Here read this link it's all in there.

http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html

E Hoffman <michael@...> wrote:

Geez, no matter what I try, this seems like I can't get the results

legibly through to the group. On the numbers below, the first number is

my result; what follows is the " clinical normal range " for that test:

Free testosterone (Direct)..12.2 ------7.2-24.0

DHEA-Sulfate.....................75------- 70-310

Estradiol ...........................16---------- 0-53

Testosterone-Serum .......465------- 241-827

TSH.............................. 1.015 -----0.350-5.500

Hope this works.

Thanks

E Hoffman wrote:

>

> The following are the selected results of fasting blood work I had done

> last week. Seems to me that everything is normal, which I guess is good

> except it still doesn't explain the symptoms I have been feeling. Should

> I just give up and accept that it is in my head or are more tests in

> order? All feedback is appreciated.

>

> I had a full " Male Panel " test done so if there is other info I should

> be suppling please let me know.

>

> Selected Blood Work Results

>

> 56 YO Male

>

> Blood taken 9/21/07

>

>

>

> Reference

>

> Result Interval

>

>

>

> Free testosterone (Direct) 12.2 7.2-24.0

> DHEA-Sulfate 75 70-310

> Estradiol 16 0-53

> Testosterone-Serum 465 241-827

> TSH 1.015 0.350-5.500

>

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>

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>

>

>

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DHEA supplement that you get in the health food stores?

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philip georgian wrote:

>

> your levels are still to low I try to keep my Total and Free T

> levels up into the upper 1/3 of my labs range. Your total is below the

> mid range try to get it over 600. Your Free will come up with this and

> your low Estradiol. Get on some DHEA your very low I take 25 mgs a day

> and it gets me to mid range.

> Here read this link it's all in there.

> http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html

> <http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html>

> E Hoffman <michael@...

> <mailto:michael%40hoffmanfinancial.com>> wrote:

> Geez, no matter what I try, this seems like I can't get the results

> legibly through to the group. On the numbers below, the first number is

> my result; what follows is the " clinical normal range " for that test:

>

> Free testosterone (Direct)..12.2 ------7.2-24.0

> DHEA-Sulfate.....................75------- 70-310

> Estradiol ...........................16---------- 0-53

> Testosterone-Serum .......465------- 241-827

> TSH.............................. 1.015 -----0.350-5.500

>

> Hope this works.

>

> Thanks

> E Hoffman wrote:

> >

> > The following are the selected results of fasting blood work I had done

> > last week. Seems to me that everything is normal, which I guess is good

> > except it still doesn't explain the symptoms I have been feeling. Should

> > I just give up and accept that it is in my head or are more tests in

> > order? All feedback is appreciated.

> >

> > I had a full " Male Panel " test done so if there is other info I should

> > be suppling please let me know.

> >

> > Selected Blood Work Results

> >

> > 56 YO Male

> >

> > Blood taken 9/21/07

> >

> >

> >

> > Reference

> >

> > Result Interval

> >

> >

> >

> > Free testosterone (Direct) 12.2 7.2-24.0

> > DHEA-Sulfate 75 70-310

> > Estradiol 16 0-53

> > Testosterone-Serum 465 241-827

> > TSH 1.015 0.350-5.500

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what

> you see. "

> Phil

>

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I had similar results, but I was only test total and free, my results

were:

Result

Ref

Free testosterone (Direct)..12.8 ------8.7-25.1

Testosterone-Serum ..........375------- 241-827

(Done through Lab Corp)

I thought for sure the doctor would say something with me being 37, but to

my disappointment and surprise, he said it was normal enough not to cause ED

or fatigue. (I've also been getting strange skin rashes in my right calf as

well that has my PCP puzzled, but taking Desonide for that.) He wanted to

put me on Cialis for ED. What really upset me was that he commented that I

wasn't 17 any more, but I also said that I'm not 85 either and that might be

normal for an 85 year old, but not a healthy 37 your old. He disagreed and I

walked away unhappy.

I showed the results to my therapist (attacking the ED problem from both

ends) and she thought they were low for my age as well, and the bizarre part

is that she recommended me to the group that this doctor belonged to. I get

to talk to her in a few days and see what she says about that.

A little background: I do have a fatty liver (hereditary with alcoholism in

the family), but I don't drink, have normal blood pressure, normal

cholesterol, and despite being 6' 6 " and 285 lbs, I have a 40 inch waist. (I

could stand to loose a few pounds, but my BMI is under 25 using the waist

measurement method. I also have a scale that measure body fat and it has me

at 22.7%, which is suppose to match BMI pretty closely.) All my life, I've

had well built lower half, but I've always had low upper body strength

despite workouts and Karate. I've done some research and found out that

fatty liver can cause some Testosterone issues, but I'm unclear and where to

go from her.

If anyone can recommend someone in the Northern New Jersey area, let me

know.

Thanks,

_____

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Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 8:43 PM

Subject: Re: blood work results-NORMAL?

your levels are still to low I try to keep my Total and Free T

levels up into the upper 1/3 of my labs range. Your total is below the mid

range try to get it over 600. Your Free will come up with this and your low

Estradiol. Get on some DHEA your very low I take 25 mgs a day and it gets me

to mid range.

Here read this link it's all in there.

http://www.griffinm

<http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html>

edical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html

E Hoffman <michael@hoffmanfina

<mailto:michael%40hoffmanfinancial.com> ncial.com> wrote:

Geez, no matter what I try, this seems like I can't get the results

legibly through to the group. On the numbers below, the first number is

my result; what follows is the " clinical normal range " for that test:

Free testosterone (Direct)..12.2 ------7.2-24.0

DHEA-Sulfate.....................75------- 70-310

Estradiol ...........................16---------- 0-53

Testosterone-Serum .......465------- 241-827

TSH.............................. 1.015 -----0.350-5.500

Hope this works.

Thanks

E Hoffman wrote:

>

> The following are the selected results of fasting blood work I had done

> last week. Seems to me that everything is normal, which I guess is good

> except it still doesn't explain the symptoms I have been feeling. Should

> I just give up and accept that it is in my head or are more tests in

> order? All feedback is appreciated.

>

> I had a full " Male Panel " test done so if there is other info I should

> be suppling please let me know.

>

> Selected Blood Work Results

>

> 56 YO Male

>

> Blood taken 9/21/07

>

>

>

> Reference

>

> Result Interval

>

>

>

> Free testosterone (Direct) 12.2 7.2-24.0

> DHEA-Sulfate 75 70-310

> Estradiol 16 0-53

> Testosterone-Serum 465 241-827

> TSH 1.015 0.350-5.500

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you

see. "

Phil

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How long have you been on TRT and at what dosage? I ask this

because I have found a delay of 1-2 months between TRT and full

suspension of side effects of being low --- i.e. as my body builds

muscle and transforms/drops fat, there is great exhaustion from all

that interior work, which passes itself of as a side effect.

Try to always focus on " how you are feeling " rather than a suggested

range. You will know when your T level (and E2 level) is

correct " for you " , by how " you " feel.

Blessings,

Bill

> >

> > The following are the selected results of fasting blood work I

had done

> > last week. Seems to me that everything is normal, which I guess

is good

> > except it still doesn't explain the symptoms I have been

feeling. Should

> > I just give up and accept that it is in my head or are more

tests in

> > order? All feedback is appreciated.

> >

> > I had a full " Male Panel " test done so if there is other info I

should

> > be suppling please let me know.

> >

> > Selected Blood Work Results

> >

> > 56 YO Male

> >

> > Blood taken 9/21/07

> >

> >

> >

> > Reference

> >

> > Result Interval

> >

> >

> >

> > Free testosterone (Direct) 12.2 7.2-24.0

> > DHEA-Sulfate 75 70-310

> > Estradiol 16 0-53

> > Testosterone-Serum 465 241-827

> > TSH 1.015 0.350-5.500

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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If you do go down this path towards treatment, remember to explore

Clomid as an option that works quite well, but some regard as avant-

garde. In my mind, if you are secondary, better to see if your

testis can work " with a little nudge " .

Blessings,

Bill

> > > >

> > > > The following are the selected results of fasting blood work

> > I

> > had done

> > > > last week. Seems to me that everything is normal, which I

> > guess

> > is good

> > > > except it still doesn't explain the symptoms I have been

> > feeling. Should

> > > > I just give up and accept that it is in my head or are more

> > tests in

> > > > order? All feedback is appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > I had a full " Male Panel " test done so if there is other

> > info I

> > should

> > > > be suppling please let me know.

> > > >

> > > > Selected Blood Work Results

> > > >

> > > > 56 YO Male

> > > >

> > > > Blood taken 9/21/07

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Reference

> > > >

> > > > Result Interval

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Free testosterone (Direct) 12.2 7.2-24.0

> > > > DHEA-Sulfate 75 70-310

> > > > Estradiol 16 0-53

> > > > Testosterone-Serum 465 241-827

> > > > TSH 1.015 0.350-5.500

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

> E Hoffman

>

> (732) 995-1691 / (732) 879-0242 (FAX)

> @...

>

>

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Yes I do very good on this it takes me to mid range on my blood test.

http://www.myvitanet.com/dhea260capph.html

E Hoffman <michael@...> wrote:

DHEA supplement that you get in the health food stores?

Thanks!

philip georgian wrote:

>

> your levels are still to low I try to keep my Total and Free T

> levels up into the upper 1/3 of my labs range. Your total is below the

> mid range try to get it over 600. Your Free will come up with this and

> your low Estradiol. Get on some DHEA your very low I take 25 mgs a day

> and it gets me to mid range.

> Here read this link it's all in there.

> http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html

> <http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html>

> E Hoffman <michael@...

> <mailto:michael%40hoffmanfinancial.com>> wrote:

> Geez, no matter what I try, this seems like I can't get the results

> legibly through to the group. On the numbers below, the first number is

> my result; what follows is the " clinical normal range " for that test:

>

> Free testosterone (Direct)..12.2 ------7.2-24.0

> DHEA-Sulfate.....................75------- 70-310

> Estradiol ...........................16---------- 0-53

> Testosterone-Serum .......465------- 241-827

> TSH.............................. 1.015 -----0.350-5.500

>

> Hope this works.

>

> Thanks

> E Hoffman wrote:

> >

> > The following are the selected results of fasting blood work I had done

> > last week. Seems to me that everything is normal, which I guess is good

> > except it still doesn't explain the symptoms I have been feeling. Should

> > I just give up and accept that it is in my head or are more tests in

> > order? All feedback is appreciated.

> >

> > I had a full " Male Panel " test done so if there is other info I should

> > be suppling please let me know.

> >

> > Selected Blood Work Results

> >

> > 56 YO Male

> >

> > Blood taken 9/21/07

> >

> >

> >

> > Reference

> >

> > Result Interval

> >

> >

> >

> > Free testosterone (Direct) 12.2 7.2-24.0

> > DHEA-Sulfate 75 70-310

> > Estradiol 16 0-53

> > Testosterone-Serum 465 241-827

> > TSH 1.015 0.350-5.500

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what

> you see. "

> Phil

>

> ---------------------------------

> Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

> Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search.

>

>

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