Thyroid Meds

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

That sounds pretty good to me, except for the diet part.... ;-). Pizza

and any kind of bread is my downfall, too. I am going to ask my doctor next

appointment.

Marta

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>From: SCSullivan@...;

>

>Hi Marta,

>I started at 30 mg, but I would still shiver uncontrollably. The only

thing

>that would raise my body temp were extremely hot showers. The doctor

raised

>it to 60 mg a day, and it's helped a lot! I still feel cold all the time,

>but it's much better.

>

>The weight came off slowly, over the period of about 6 months. I know the

>Armour thyroid helped, but I think the diet made the biggest difference --

>but it's so hard not to cheat and my diet is very limited! I'm limited to

>vegetables, meat, and rice. I found out I was allergic to wheat and corn,

so

>that cuts out most carbs -- but it did get rid of my asthma! My yeast

>infection is so bad I can't even have fruit! But when I do " fall of the

>wagon " and cheat (pizza is one of my worst downfalls) I feel so crumby the

>next day I don't even want to cheat again for a long time.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the further clarification Bee. Best to you in health as well.

~Anita

Bee Wilder <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

==>Oh no, do not stop any meds cold turkey for sure. Sorry, I should

have explained that a little better. Even though it is best not to

start on thyroid meds, some people do need them. Natural dessicated

thyroid like Armour is best, not synthetic.

>

The best in health,

Bee

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[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

I was diagnosed with thyroid problems in Sept. 2008. However I think it started

15 years

when the symptoms began - depression, fatigue, intolerance to cold, thinning

hair, etc., I

always worked a full time job, but I started feeling REALLY BAD in 2008 and

could not

function. ( At the beginning of last year I was put on Doxycycline 200mg

for about 3

months (for Rosecea). Maybe that triggered my decline in health.

I was on Armour 60mg for around 2 months, but 2 weeks ago my doctor switched me

to

Cytomel (t3 only med). Just starting out on the cytomel so I am only on 15mcg

per day,

will increase next week to get my free t3 up.

Also, I am VERY low on all of the following: iron, cholesterol, testosterone,

vitamin A,

vitamin D and I am low on MANY amino acids. I recently started on HCL

I only discovered I have Candida 2 weeks ago when I went to a new doctor. Do

you think

the Candida is causing all these problems and once I follow your program

everything will

balance out?

I also have high cortisol and adrenal problems. I was put on many supplements

to

support the Adrenals and deal with my symptoms.. I read on your website that

the only

supplements I should take are the ones you specify, but I am afraid if I stop

everything,

my adrenals will not be supported.

Here's what I'm taking:

Phosphatylserine (PS)

zinc

Cortico b5b6 (3x per day)- each pill contains b6 100mg, b5 500mg,magnesium 75mg)

Arginine with Magnesium

Ribose (I stopped this because I think it has sugar)

vitamin D

Iron

Omega

theanine

lysine

5htp

melatonin

sam-e

I also take a multi-vitamin

Please advise on the thyroid meds and also all these other supplements. Will

they interfere

with your program. I want to start out on the right track. I know this is alot

of

information, but I'd love to hear your thoughts so I can get the most benefits.

Thanks so much!!!!!!

Donna G

+++Are you taking thyroid meds, since that will cause problems down

> the road when your thyroid starts to normalize. Let me know if you are on

> meds, and how many years ago your thyroid problems started, so I can

> advise you.

>

> The best, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

Hi !

Do you think any pharmacies might carry it? Like some of the

compounding pharmacies? Then an MD could write you a prescription. . .

x jessica

>

> hi bee - thanks for your information on calc/mag, i will try more

calcium til i can make

> eggshell calcium

>

> i have encountered a tricky problem, my nd has run out of my raw

thyroid pills, and won't

> have any for quite some time...i need to leave the country shortly!

i've been on the program

> for 3 months now, and on the thyroid meds for 4 years...i probably

needed them long before

> that. any suggestions for how to handle this? should i just try a

different raw thyroid to keep

> going for a few more months? or slowly back off my current dosage,

before i run out

> altogether? i have 60 caps left and usually take 2.

>

> thanks! i am always very happy to have other experienced folks here

answer my questions,

> bee. you needn't respond if they have! have a break. thank you

> elisa

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

> I was diagnosed with thyroid problems in Sept. 2008. However I

think it started 15 years

> when the symptoms began - depression, fatigue, intolerance to

cold, thinning hair, etc., I

> always worked a full time job, but I started feeling REALLY BAD

in 2008 and could not

> function. ( At the beginning of last year I was put on

Doxycycline 200mg for about 3

> months (for Rosecea). Maybe that triggered my decline in health.

+++Hi Donna. There could have been many contributing factors that

led to you decline in health, including the rosacea meds. It is

obvious your immune system has been depressed for a very long time.

>

> I was on Armour 60mg for around 2 months, but 2 weeks ago my doctor

switched me to Cytomel (t3 only med). Just starting out on the

cytomel so I am only on 15mcg per day, will increase next week to

get my free t3 up.

+++Candida toxins, as well as other toxins, make the cell membranes

rigid/stiff so the functioning of all organs is compromised. This

also interferes with a person's ability to convert Armour to Free T3,

so that's why your doctor switched to Cytomel. Most people do better

taking some of each.

>

> Also, I am VERY low on all of the following: iron, cholesterol,

testosterone, vitamin A, vitamin D and I am low on MANY amino acids.

I recently started on HCL

+++That's good you are taking HCl, which helps digestion and

absorption of all nutrients including supplements and meds.

>

> I only discovered I have Candida 2 weeks ago when I went to a new

doctor. Do you think the Candida is causing all these problems and

once I follow your program everything will balance out?

+++Yes, I believe candida is causing all of these problems, but even

people who do not have candida improve their health on this program.

That is because it is designed to build up the immune system, which

is the only way to turn health around. That's why I set up my

website and called it Healing Naturally by Bee, since I'd been

running this group for a long time, and could see that people were

having miraculous results - see these many Success Stories for the

results of this program, including recovery of thyroid function:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

>

> I also have high cortisol and adrenal problems. I was put on many

supplements to support the Adrenals and deal with my symptoms.. I

read on your website that the only supplements I should take are the

ones you specify, but I am afraid if I stop everything, my adrenals

will not be supported.

+++You can gradually decrease your adrenal supplements too.

> Here's what I'm taking:

>

> Phosphatylserine (PS)

> zinc

> Cortico b5b6 (3x per day)- each pill contains b6 100mg, b5

500mg,magnesium 75mg)

> Arginine with Magnesium

> Ribose (I stopped this because I think it has sugar)

> vitamin D

> Iron

> Omega

> theanine

> lysine

> 5htp

> melatonin

> sam-e

> I also take a multi-vitamin

+++Holey cow, that's a lot of supplements! Most of them are not

necessary on this program, which includes all of the amino acids,

zinc, multi-vitamin, etc. Donna, this is getting complicated. Would

you consider having a consultation with me? See this:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/consult.php

Let me know if you are not able to get a consultation, and I'll try

to get enough time to review your list above for you and advise.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> hi bee - thanks for your information on calc/mag, i will try more

calcium til i can make eggshell calcium

>

> i have encountered a tricky problem, my nd has run out of my raw

thyroid pills, and won't have any for quite some time...i need to

leave the country shortly!

+++Hi . Like wrote, another pharmacy might have it, or

find a compounding pharmacy - there's usually 1 in every city. I had

to get a compounding pharmacy to make up my thyroid meds a few years

ago, when all of the other pharmacies in the City had none.

> i've been on the program for 3 months now, and on the thyroid meds

for 4 years...i probably needed them long before that. any ggestions

for how to handle this? should i just try a different raw thyroid to

keep going for a few more months? or slowly back off my current

dosage, before i run out altogether? i have 60 caps left and usually

take 2.

+++since you are on this program, you should be lowering your thyroid

doses anyway. If your thyroid problem started 4 years ago, you

should be off all meds within 2 months of starting this program, so

you don't cause your thyroid to go crazy as it normalizes. Try

taking 1 per day.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

thanks bee + jessica.

i'll start phasing thyroid out now.

btw i swear i'm retracing a badly sprained thumb from highschool

sports, it has been numb, tingly, stiff, for 3 days!

elisa

> +++since you are on this program, you should be lowering your thyroid

> doses anyway. If your thyroid problem started 4 years ago, you

> should be off all meds within 2 months of starting this program, so

> you don't cause your thyroid to go crazy as it normalizes. Try

> taking 1 per day.

>

> Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

Bee, I know I'm a complicated case:)

So i will set up a consultation so I get off to a good start.

thanks for your help.

Donna G.

>

> +++Holey cow, that's a lot of supplements! Most of them are not

> necessary on this program, which includes all of the amino acids,

> zinc, multi-vitamin, etc. Donna, this is getting complicated. Would

> you consider having a consultation with me? See this:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/consult.php

>

> Let me know if you are not able to get a consultation, and I'll try

> to get enough time to review your list above for you and advise.

>

> Luv, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> thanks bee + jessica.

> i'll start phasing thyroid out now.

>

> btw i swear i'm retracing a badly sprained thumb from highschool

> sports, it has been numb, tingly, stiff, for 3 days!

+++Hi elisa. You should do okay if you start to phase out thyroid meds

now.

+++That's amazing you are retracing your injured thumb! Good for you

for recognizing it too! I knew a guy who retraced being hit in the

face near his eye by a baseball bat. Natural healing is awesome!

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Bee, I know I'm a complicated case:)

> So i will set up a consultation so I get off to a good start.

>

> thanks for your help.

+++That's good Donna. Be sure to send me the list of things you are

taking, along with brands, and doses.

The best to you, Bee

[Guest guest]

I knew there was a shortage of natural thyroid but it finally hit me. My

pharmacy only had 20 Nature-Throid and no Armour. It looks like a long term

shortage. I take 1 gr. 2x a day. I am going to my doctor Tuesday and think I

will ask for generic Synthroid and Cytomel. I was thinking around 100mcg T4 and

25mcg T3. I would probably break the T3 in half for two doses a day.

What do you think?

[Guest guest]

No get this the FDA approved it to come into the USA from Cananda. Here is a

link on how to get this. It is the same as armour.

http://www.erfa-sa.com/thyroid_usa.htm

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/09/29/fda-form-not-required-with-erfa/

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Thornton <brianee93@...>

> Subject: Thyroid Meds

>

> Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 6:43 PM

> I knew there was a shortage of

> natural thyroid but it finally hit me. My pharmacy only had

> 20 Nature-Throid and no Armour. It looks like a long term

> shortage. I take 1 gr. 2x a day. I am going to my doctor

> Tuesday and think I will ask for generic Synthroid and

> Cytomel. I was thinking around 100mcg T4 and 25mcg T3. I

> would probably break the T3 in half for two doses a day.

>

> What do you think?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Phil. That wouldn't be cover by insurance. I just changed groups with my

company and generics cost me $0! I want to take what works but if taking T4 and

T3 can work fine without any crazy sides I would rather do that and not worry

every time there is a nature thyroid shortage.

Have you heard of people having good luck just taking synthetic T4 and T3?

________________________________

From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>

Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 7:01:08 PM

Subject: Re: Thyroid Meds

 

No get this the FDA approved it to come into the USA from Cananda. Here is a

link on how to get this. It is the same as armour.

http://www.erfa-sa.com/thyroid_usa.htm

http://www.stopthet hyroidmadness. com/2009/ 09/29/fda- form-not- required-

with-erfa/

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Thornton <brianee93@sbcglobal .net>

> Subject: Thyroid Meds

>

> Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 6:43 PM

> I knew there was a shortage of

> natural thyroid but it finally hit me. My pharmacy only had

> 20 Nature-Throid and no Armour. It looks like a long term

> shortage. I take 1 gr. 2x a day. I am going to my doctor

> Tuesday and think I will ask for generic Synthroid and

> Cytomel. I was thinking around 100mcg T4 and 25mcg T3. I

> would probably break the T3 in half for two doses a day.

>

> What do you think?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Phil.

________________________________

From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>

Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:43:31 AM

Subject: Re: Thyroid Meds

 

I am told the shortage is over Nature and West Thyroid have tooled up to meet

the demand. If I were you I would not mess with T4 and T3 even Hard is trying

this and not doing well. A lot of people that post on my Thyroid forum are not

doing good on them. It's not all that much money a lot of people are getting

Thyroid-S from over seas and this is not as good a Erfa's Thyroid.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: Thornton <brianee93@sbcgloba l .net>

> > Subject: Thyroid Meds

> >

> > Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 6:43 PM

> > I knew there was a shortage of

> > natural thyroid but it finally hit me. My pharmacy

> only had

> > 20 Nature-Throid and no Armour. It looks like a long

> term

> > shortage. I take 1 gr. 2x a day. I am going to my

> doctor

> > Tuesday and think I will ask for generic Synthroid

> and

> > Cytomel. I was thinking around 100mcg T4 and 25mcg T3.

> I

> > would probably break the T3 in half for two doses a

> day.

> >

> > What do you think?

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I'm using ERFA dessicated thyroid from Canada now, it is sweet like the *old*

Armour and I use it sublingually and I feel a little better than when I was on

Naturethroid. I have a bottle of Thiroid from overseas to try as well. WE have

not had seen supplies of NT replenished in GA yet...El

[Guest guest]

At STTM site Jen says this.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/09/24/yes-desiccated-thyroid-is-making\

-its-way-to-pharmacy-shelves/

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: mbmom123 <dbkczar@...>

> Subject: Re: Thyroid Meds

>

> Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 11:52 AM

> I'm using ERFA dessicated thyroid

> from Canada now, it is sweet like the *old* Armour and I use

> it sublingually and I feel a little better than when I was

> on Naturethroid. I have a bottle of Thiroid from overseas to

> try as well. WE have not had seen supplies of NT replenished

> in GA yet...El

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

-- In , Hawe <jenny.hawe@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Bee,

>  

> Just a question again about thyroid meds....since like you I don't have a

thyroid and have no choice but to take hormone replacement/s.....

>  

> .I take my medication in the morning (on empty stomach as instructed by Dr)

...I have had diarrhoea episodes 3-4 a day on this diet constantly for 6 weeks -

would that affect the absorption of the thyroid meds? I just just concerned of

going to  hypothyroidism? It is hard enough at times on this diet without

thinking symptoms are not from re-tracing or detoxifying but because of not

enough thyroid meds in my body eg: tiredness,

bloat/puffiness,irritability,cravings for sugar/caffeine  for energy etc.that

are all symptoms of hypothyroidism.

+++Hi . Thyroid meds are absorbed in the small intestines, so having

diarrhea, which happens in the large intestines, would not cause a problem.

However, I melt thyroid meds in my mouth, which helps your body absorb them

better than just swallowing them whole.

+++If your thyroid lab tests are okay, do not be concerned, unless you have

hypothyroid symptoms. When I was only taking synthetic meds I had symptoms, but

after starting on a combination of natural and synthetic I do fine.

>  

> You mentioned you were on a mix of synthetic and natural hormone mix ....what

natural hormone are you on??....as I have done a bit of research and Armour and

others have fillers and have been changed etc...

+++I live in Canada and the natural one is just called thyroid. The US has

changed their Armour meds which caused a lot of problems for many people. You

can get natural dessicated thyroid meds made up by a compounding pharmacy. A

few years ago Canada didn't have a supply of them, so I got a compounding

pharmacy to make them for me.

+++ Shomon is a good source of information on the thyroid:

http://thyroid.about.com/bio/-Shomon-350.htm

Also check out Dr. Rind's information:

http://www.drrind.com/therapies/metabolic-therapy

Dr. Rind recommends treating the adrenals with hormones too, but I don't because

taking hormones negatively affect the body more than anything else and there is

plenty of adrenal help and support on my program.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>  

> The only natural thyroid hormone I can obtain in Sydney, Australia..is

Armour...The ingredients listed is: calcium stearate, dextrose, microcrystalline

cellulose, sodium starch, glycolate and opadry white.

> I heard this is not the orginal Armour as they have changed it over the last

few years apparently.

>  

> I have an appt. with a GP one hour drive away next wednesday for appt etc but

I thought I would do my research first....in you opinion Bee is this a waste of

time...I am at a loss as to what to do....in your opinion  may be better just

staying on synthetic oroxine and tertroxin....

+++Hi ,

See Dr. Mercola's article Armour Thyroid Formulation Difference Between New and

Old, where he says the formula you listed above should be just as effective as

the old formula:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/03/12/armour-thyroid-ing\

redients.aspx

Here's a tinyurl that may work better: http://tinyurl.com/3uy2qwo

You would be better off taking mostly Armour above, plus a little synthetic like

I do - didn't I write to you about that?

See if you doctor agrees to start with 30 mg of Armour 2 times a day (morning

and evening), and midday take 0.025 mg of synthetic, and then get tested in 1-2

months to see if it is okay.

The reason you take them 3 times a day is to maintain blood levels, rather than

taking it once a day. I've been doing that for over 12 years and it's working

great for me.

Bee