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Joan,

I have " just " LD and only experienced the night sweats early in my

treatment. I still have them occasionally, but very far and few between.

Wonder what's going on with you Marta?! A hormonal thing maybe? Or maybe you

do have Babesia or Erlichiosis. I think I read its more common for Babesia.

But any amount of things can change your hormonal levels, meds, thyroid

problems, (maybe even, yeast overgrowth) etc. Maybe you should have it

checked out. Vicki, Md

>From: Namkrats3@...

>

>

>Hi Marta,

>I'm sorry to hear that you are having so many problems! I think you

>mentioned that you are on orals now, right? I am wondering about the

>night sweats...I haven't had any while on abx, and I'm wondering if it

>happens to those with Erlichiosis or Babesia. I am supposedly not

>suffering from those...anybody with " just LD " get them?

>Thanks,

>Joan LI NY

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In a message dated 04/11/2001 7:11:04 AM Central Daylight Time,

Cis64@... writes:

<< Do any of you get night sweats after eating too many carbs? >>

Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and I feel a bit of a sweat on

me, and I don't normally sweat a lot. I don't know if it is related to

candida tho...

BTW, I got back from Ottawa late last night and it was discovered that I am

" sensitive " to the following:

1. Phenol

2. Glycerine (look at most bars of soap eh?)

3. Corn

4. Wheat (my top allergy it ranked 6 in a level of 8 in the allergy alert)

Both Phenol and Glycerine ranked 5 and Corn also ranked 6 I think.

I'm on a bunch of vitamins and once I get my " energy " back some I'll get them

up here and type them out.

Thanks!

:)

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Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.

2001/04/13 14:18:50 CDT

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In a message dated 8/7/01 12:10:51 PM, dyanagordon@... writes:

<< Bill,

You were treated 2-3 months with mepron and it helped alot? Were

you on anything else with that >>

Many of us here have found, me included, that the treatment for babesia is

more like AT LEAST 6months to a year. Some of us have done Mepron, some

flagyl, some Artemesia. Me? I have done all.

sue in nj

sue massie

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Bill,

You were treated 2-3 months with mepron and it helped alot? Were

you on anything else with that? I am currently taking a placebo/mepron

along with cholestyramine and zithromax hoping to attack the

lyme/babesia badies. I was just curious what all you have tried and

have your results been lasting?

Thanks, dyana

>

> From: Ssadlermas@a...

> Subject: Re: IGENEX test-plannning ahead

>

>

> In a message dated 6/18/01 6:33:05 PM, philcome@f... writes:

>

> << I'll still wonder why I get night sweats after a 10 pulsing of

doxy.

> There is something inside me! >>

>

> Phil-

> It would be a real good idea to have a PCR blood test for babesia,

Igenex

> Labs, $77.

> If so, you DO have something inside of you, a protozoa called

babesia.

> Doxy does not do a thing for babesia.......Mepron, flagyl,

Artemesia.

> sue in nj

>

> Hi, I do think also you have a babesia co-infection with the Lyme. I

had very bad night sweats until I was treated with 2 -3 months of

Mepron. You need to get treated for this. Take good care....Bill

>

>

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In a message dated 8/7/01 7:01:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Ssadlermas@... writes:

> Many of us here have found, me included, that the treatment for babesia is

> more like AT LEAST 6months to a year. Some of us have done Mepron, some

>

I was on Mepron for nine months, along with Dynabac & Bactrim DS. Then I

switched to doryx to address the ehrlichia for 5 months. Then to flagyl to

continue treating the babesia & the cyst form of Lyme. After two months he

added suprax. After several months of that, I had to go off the flagyl to

take clindamyacin for a dental problem...so I am currently taking that plus

the suprax. As long as I don't have to go back on mepron! lol

Deb

NJ

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In a message dated 8/7/01 4:10:16 PM, cbreeze07@... writes:

<< As long as I don't have to go back on mepron! lol

Deb

NJ

>>

Hi Deb-

I am coming in tomorrow....are you working???

sue in nj

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In a message dated 8/7/01 4:45:38 PM, dmthompson4@... writes:

<< OK Gang.............at what point in the treatment process should one be

treated for the babesia? Is this done separately from the abx's for Lyme?

How long does it usually take, and can you do the Artemesia annua along WITH

abx's or in lieu of them? >>

Deb-

First of all, yes, it IS alien sweat......ONLY KIDDING!!!!!!

You should start treatment of babesia right away (Artemesia, for instance)

ALONG with antibiotics. It is separate from lyme but you take your abx PLUS

Artemesia. It usually takes AT LEAST 6 MONTHS to a year. YES, that is what I

said.....that long.

You WILL be drenched in the middle of the night......you are herxing.

THIS WILL PASS and you will feel alot of your symptoms subside and then

disappear.

(difficulty breathing/shortness of breath, heart palpitations,

chills/fevers/sweats)

Love ya Deb, it was great talking with you yesterday but sorry, I HAVE 6 KIDS

and they were all bugging me last night. It seems to happen when it is dinner

time....they come sniffing for grub.

How did you make out with the dr. for your son?

sue in nj

sue massie

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Hi Deb & everyone...

Mepron just tastes awful & after a while you just get so tired of swallowing

it along with all the pills. I was taking Dynabac (1000 mgs) at the same

time for the Lyme & then the Dr. added Bactrim DS (2 a day) to it, feeling it

works well with the mepron too for the babesia. I had been untreated for

babesia for 10 years or so...herxing is going to happen; at least it means

the meds are working. Everyone responds differently to all the medications

so no one should get skeptical about trying something new. And these

diseases untreated cause bigger longer lasting problems. I work for my LLMD

so I see this everyday...with new patients coming in, old patients that are

noncompliant, etc.

Yes, pain meds are important but yet there is a reluctance to prescribe them.

The medical board & even the pharmaceutical board keeps track of everything &

especially once a Dr. has been targeted for treating Lyme, almost everything

he does is scrutinized. So a pain management center is the answer for

many...sometimes those meds & alternative therapy are the only way to make it

through the day.

Deb

NJ

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> In a message dated 8/7/01 7:01:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> Ssadlermas@a... writes:

>

>

> > Many of us here have found, me included, that the treatment for

babesia is

> > more like AT LEAST 6months to a year......

> ....As long as I don't have to go back on mepron! lol

>

> Deb

> NJ

Hi Deb in NJ,

Deb from TX wants to know, is Mepron really that bad? I feel so lousy

now, and I'm only on oral Doxy and Amoxicillin! Thank God for

hydrocodone and Baclofen, Parafon Forte, Zanaflex.........

To all my fellow lymies without a Pain Mgt. doc on their team......I

can't tell you how much a difference it has made in my quality of life

- which still basically sucks, but would be unimaginable without this

support. None of us should suffer horribly when there are medications

available to alleviate/palliate symptoms. Besides the meds, I have

recvd a muscle stimulator for essetially FREE, a Rx for 8 weeks of

Aqua Therapy with a 1:1 PT who is including traction (to stretch the

cervical vertebrae apart), deep-tissue work to facilitate elimination

of the hundred or so KNOTS in my neck and back that have developed in

the past couple of years, psychological support, etc.

It hurts my heart to hear your stories of unnecessary suffering, as well

as those stories of docs getting nervous about prescribing pain meds.

WHAT CAN WE DO? I feel both helpless and useless.

NurseDeb

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In a message dated 1/26/02 5:20:27 PM, philcome@... writes:

<< have night sweats, sometimes soaking wet. They're always around 3:00 AM

Can someone have any idea as to what's going on?

Phil >>

Phil-

Possibly babesia.....try Artemesia, chinese herb from health food store.

Allergy Research is the brand we use and make sure it is artemesia annua.

It is about $25/bottle, we take 1 pill, 3x/day

sue in nj

sue massie

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From: " philcome " <philcome@...>

> GlacierAt my last doctor visit my liver enzymes were quite high;SGPT 192

and SGOT 76. One of the supplements I've increased is whey protein(Immunepro

or Life Extension Institute) to increase the glutathione in my body.Since

I've started taking a dose at bedtime, have night sweats, sometimes soaking

wet. They're always around 3:00 AM Can someone have any idea as to what's

going on?

>

> Phil

Immunepro makes me herx more strongly.. which sometimes includes night

sweats. You can get sweats from lyme herxes. I think that's what could be

happening in your case too. It's good stuff.

Jen :)

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What if these same symptons occured in a male. Same

story? Is it estrogen or something else?

--- Jann Briesacher <urrican1@...> wrote:

> sent this message back to me, sorry if it

> already posted.

>

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> If you have night sweats and wake up at 3 am, you

> might have candida, but it's a pretty solid sign you

> are quite low in estrogen. If you also have mood

> swings or unreasonable rage; joint pain;

> gastrointestinal distress; intolerance to noise;

> light-headedness; or get obsessed and can't let

> things go, you need to have your estrogen checked,

> or at least try taking one of the herbal supplements

> to see if the symptoms get better. You don't need to

> be " old " to have an estrogen loss. This is

> especially likely if you have lost alot of weight,

> because estrogen is stored in fat cells; if you have

> lowered your cholesterol, because estrogen is made

> from cholesterol; and/or if you have stopped

> drinking a fair amount of beer, because beer

> contains a plant estrogen.

>

> The candida movement is very negative about taking

> hormones, but the long-term health risks from an

> estrogen deficiency are VERY SERIOUS, and the

> short-term problems like insomnia and night sweats

> certainly aren't any fun. Like cholesterol, nearly

> everyone in the medical community is so adamant that

> you not get too much estrogen, that it's quite

> difficult to get someone to take you seriously when

> you don't have enough. But the problems that might

> follow deficiency include heart disease; macular

> degeneration of the eyes; many forms of cancer;

> prolapse of the uterus, bladder, or other internal

> organs. Many of the symptoms of estrogen deficiency

> are also on the list of symptoms for candida.

> Cabot wrote an excellent book about hormones,

> including many natural supplements that can work for

> some women. It's called " Smart Medicine for

> Menopause " and is usually available from

> www.half.com .

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Do you have or know other men who have those symptoms? I'm not a doctor, so I

only have my own research and experience, which was with a female body. I don't

think I've ever read anything about men having those particular symptoms, but I

guess the lowering of hormone levels could result in estrogen deficiency

symptoms for men. Anyone else know anything about this, since I have no idea?

..

----- Original Message -----

What if these same symptons occured in a male. Same story? Is it estrogen or

something else?

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> If you have night sweats and wake up at 3 am, you

> might have candida, but it's a pretty solid sign you

> are quite low in estrogen. If you also have mood

> swings or unreasonable rage; joint pain;

> gastrointestinal distress; intolerance to noise;

> light-headedness; or get obsessed and can't let

> things go, you need to have your estrogen checked,

> or at least try taking one of the herbal supplements

> to see if the symptoms get better.

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My grandfather, mother and myself all suffered from night sweats. I know now

it is a symptom of anaemia (this in turn can affect the hormones -- it's a

chain when the basics go haywire). I have been diverted into various damaging

medical treatments to treat symptoms of what is basically an anaemia.

Sweating is a sign of debility. Also doctors often lie about haemoglobin

levels, often saying blood tests are " ok " when they are not.

In a message dated 20/04/2002 02:20:57 GMT Standard Time, urrican1@...

writes:

> Do you have or know other men who have those symptoms? I'm not a doctor, so

> I only have my own research and experience, which was with a female body. I

> don't think I've ever read anything about men having those particular

> symptoms, but I guess the lowering of hormone levels could result in

> estrogen deficiency symptoms for men. Anyone else know anything about this,

> since I have no idea?

> .

>

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I use the 24 hour clock as my indicater of what might be out of balance. 3-5 am

is the energy time of the lung by traditional chinese medicine. 5-7 is the large

intestine and they are actually a yin and yang pair. 11pm-1am is gall bladder

1-3am is the liver. The internal branch of the lung meridian is not shown in

most charts go through the stomach and the transvers part of the large

intestine. Emotion of/in the liver: resentment, rage, anger, wrath, unhappiness,

hapiness, contentment, transformation, distress. The lungs: false pride,

regret,contempt, tolarence/ intolerance, cheerful, depressed, humility-modesty

etc. So not just the yin - yang are connected but all others as well. The

tripple warmer which helps feed the hormon system is charged from 9-11 pm.

Internal branch disorders of the lung: to list a few, diaphram disorders

associated disorders of the large intestine ie: diarrhoea, verticulitis, colic,

constipation, colitis and some of the stomach.+ the evident asthma, chest

tightness, coughing etc.

outer branch: shoulder pain, pain in supraclavicular fossa, stiff forearm,

carpal tunnel syndrome, wrist disorders, warts, arthritis in the tumb to name a

few.

Cleaning the large intestine, breating deep or even going to breath class (sound

funny learning to take a breath?) but the results are profound. Educate yourself

what you will learn will make you the master of your health and happiness that

you really are.

I had beed proded poked tryed all to be well, by the time I was 17 I have

decided NO MORE. I took charge educated myself, tryed and experimented.

Eventually I clued in that all of me my mental state, my emotions, spiritual

expention or contraction, all have their effect on my physical body. From then

on I can take this as a journey and knowing and discovering myself through the

wisdom of the body is great, & fun. Now I would not trade the challenges that

came my way for anything. I had become aware of truths that are priceless. Happy

discoveries. More info; Traditional Chinese Medicine-meridians-organs, Touch

for Health, One Brain, Bruno chickly lymph dranage, Upledger-craniosacral

therapy, ghi-gong, colon reflex, energy & the body.....

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Hi here is the info it may take you a few days to look through it all.

http://alternativehealing.org/ also many more just search meridians

http://www.ontcm.com/wjam/contents00-2.htm

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0520021584/102-7996200-4839355

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/news/press_releases/chinesepr99.html " Jushikyo " (The

Routes of Fourteen Channels and Their Functions)

http://www.redwingbooks.com/products/books/MedClaYelEmp.cfm/cfid_671964/cftoken_\

53999621

More for the layman less complex but still good information for the beginner:

The art of reflexology. By Inge Dougans with Suzanne Ellis. This book covers

meridians and shows the internal branch of the meridians as well as provides

good information to introduce you to the meridians and the two vessels.

Ask your librarian too about books on meridians.

http://www.onebrain.com/ the founders of this system. They have the database all

over the world of qualified facilitators.

http://www.divadoc.com/thepractice/onebrain.html if you can find a practitioner,

you can go and explore why you create candida in your system and what would be

the right course of action for you to take to solve it.

http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/split.html

http://www.touch4health.com/

http://www.tfhka.org/

http://www.isashealth.com/lymphatic_system.htm

http://www.bandagesplus.com/ssen/product497.html

http://www.upledger.com/home.htm

www.alexgrey.com

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Well, I sometimes get night sweats as part of the die-off symptoms and

I'm a man, so low estrogen can't be the reason for me.

Pete

> sent this message back to me, sorry if it already posted.

>

---------------------------------------------------------------------

> If you have night sweats and wake up at 3 am, you might have

candida, but it's a pretty solid sign you are quite low in estrogen.

If you also have mood swings or unreasonable rage; joint pain;

gastrointestinal distress; intolerance to noise; light-headedness; or

get obsessed and can't let things go, you need to have your estrogen

checked, or at least try taking one of the herbal supplements to see

if the symptoms get better. You don't need to be " old " to have an

estrogen loss. This is especially likely if you have lost alot of

weight, because estrogen is stored in fat cells; if you have lowered

your cholesterol, because estrogen is made from cholesterol; and/or if

you have stopped drinking a fair amount of beer, because beer contains

a plant estrogen.

>

> The candida movement is very negative about taking hormones, but the

long-term health risks from an estrogen deficiency are VERY SERIOUS,

and the short-term problems like insomnia and night sweats certainly

aren't any fun. Like cholesterol, nearly everyone in the medical

community is so adamant that you not get too much estrogen, that it's

quite difficult to get someone to take you seriously when you don't

have enough. But the problems that might follow deficiency include

heart disease; macular degeneration of the eyes; many forms of cancer;

prolapse of the uterus, bladder, or other internal organs. Many of the

symptoms of estrogen deficiency are also on the list of symptoms for

candida. Cabot wrote an excellent book about hormones,

including many natural supplements that can work for some women. It's

called " Smart Medicine for Menopause " and is usually available from

www.half.com .

>

>

>

>

>

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Again, I would strongly suggest thinking about anaemia. I found that I was

getting spots and itching is also a classic sign of anaemia. Any debility

caused by anaemia would naturally lead to other signs such as fungal

infections. I do agree about tea tree oil. It is a very good general

antiseptic and anti-fungal. However I am finding my nail fungus is clearing

up now without the use of tree oil, just because my iron levels are now going

up. This is also helping my stomach problems. It's just so basic. But a mass

of medical specialities make money out of people not knowing about this.

In a message dated 10/05/2002 20:10:49 GMT Standard Time,

alyx@... writes:

> Yes, I have night sweats, which I know is symptomatic of candida. However, I

> also know that it's a menopause symptoms, so I'm not sure what's the exact

> cause of the sweats. BTW, I also have itching skin, scalp zits and lack of

> energy. Tea tree oil shampoo is great for the scalp problem. I know when

> it's getting bad because I feel like I have head lice...stuff moving on my

> head.

>

> How do you know it's mercury toxicity? I had 3 hair analyses, each with

> different results.

>

> Debm

>

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Yes, I have night sweats, which I know is symptomatic of candida. However, I

also know that it's a menopause symptoms, so I'm not sure what's the exact

cause of the sweats. BTW, I also have itching skin, scalp zits and lack of

energy. Tea tree oil shampoo is great for the scalp problem. I know when

it's getting bad because I feel like I have head lice...stuff moving on my

head.

How do you know it's mercury toxicity? I had 3 hair analyses, each with

different results.

Debm

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> Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 23:10:32 -0000

> From: " deondanno " <deondanno@...>

> Subject: How Many of You Get Night Sweats?

>

> I have had problems with yeast for about 15 years. On and off during

> that period I would have soaking night sweats. My other symptoms

> included gastorintestinal problems, acid reflux, eventually itching

> skin and those annoying zit-like sores on my scalp, and brain fog or

> lack-of energy and depression issues.

>

> As it turns out I've got mercury toxicity.

>

> My wife just developed itchy skin, and night sweats over the past

> year or so. We have both been on yeast diets and that has helped. I

> am curious how many others have experienced night sweats. I feel

> like I picked up some super strain of yeast during my college days

> long ago, have never been able to really rid myself of it, and now

> have passed it on to my wife due to my constant battles with yeast.

> Night sweats are pretty

> disconcerting. When they first happened I had myself tested for AIDS

> and that is not an issue. I can't seem to pin the sweats on anything

> but maybe yeast.

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> Yes, I have night sweats, which I know is symptomatic of candida.

However, I

> also know that it's a menopause symptoms, so I'm not sure what's

the exact

> cause of the sweats. BTW, I also have itching skin, scalp zits and

lack of

> energy. Tea tree oil shampoo is great for the scalp problem. I know

when

> it's getting bad because I feel like I have head lice...stuff

moving on my

> head.

>

> How do you know it's mercury toxicity? I had 3 hair analyses, each

with

> different results.

>

> Debm

>

>

Sorry it's taken me so long to reply - I had blood work done. It

turned out I was in the 97th percentile for mercury in blood. I had

the test after going on an anti yeast diet for several months (with

great results) only to fall back into the yeast issues very soon

after going offf diet. It took a long time to work through the

medical system to figure this out. Of course it was a naturopath

rather than an MD who figured it out.

> Message: 1

> > Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 23:10:32 -0000

> > From: " deondanno " <deondanno@y...>

> > Subject: How Many of You Get Night Sweats?

> >

> > I have had problems with yeast for about 15 years. On and off

during

> > that period I would have soaking night sweats. My other symptoms

> > included gastorintestinal problems, acid reflux, eventually

itching

> > skin and those annoying zit-like sores on my scalp, and brain fog

or

> > lack-of energy and depression issues.

> >

> > As it turns out I've got mercury toxicity.

> >

> > My wife just developed itchy skin, and night sweats over the past

> > year or so. We have both been on yeast diets and that has

helped. I

> > am curious how many others have experienced night sweats. I feel

> > like I picked up some super strain of yeast during my college days

> > long ago, have never been able to really rid myself of it, and now

> > have passed it on to my wife due to my constant battles with

yeast.

> > Night sweats are pretty

> > disconcerting. When they first happened I had myself tested for

AIDS

> > and that is not an issue. I can't seem to pin the sweats on

anything

> > but maybe yeast.

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I was wondering the same how old are you. Night sweats are a typical

menopausal condition and are normal. I am breezing through the change but I

do get them occasionally and I got these way before I ever got a hot flash.

I take nothing other then my BP med and my synthroid.

RE: Night Sweats

Menopause? How old are you? I had those sweats until I used estradiol.

Val in Boulder, CO

-----Original Message-----

From: art_muse [mailto:art_muse@...]

Once I separated those two meds

by 12 hours, my symptoms, including night sweats, went away. Since

then, nothing has changed either in my meds or my routine.

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I began taking T3, then sublingual progesterone about a week later.

Aparently, the progesterone helped my night sweats. I'd wake up with

a low basal temp, but around 3-4am I'd be dying of heat, sweating

like crazy, hot as heck. I was told they're just night time hot

flashes. Since taking the progesterone---and the T3, I've not had

any episodes (knock on wood). :o)

Ella

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