Re: help for mate

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi, I am new to this group and was looking for some info to help me

> cope. My hubby of 26 yrs was diagnosed with low t levels a few months

> ago.He is 44. The problem I have, is that he has had a complete

change

> is personality that has me puzzled. He went from being outgoing and

> warm to self absorbed and isolating himself even from family. Is this

> normal? Its like living with another person.He is on androgel which

> has to be monitored because his father had prostrate cancer that has

> come back in other organs over the last 10 years but the dr. says he

> really needs to stay on the gel. Just wondering if I could get some

> feedback that might give me some insight on what is going on.

> Thanks,Kim

>

I can speak from personal experience that having low T changes a man's

personality. Until I was treated with replacement doses of T, I was

irritable, depressed, anxious, fatigued, and withdrawn. This was me

since age 13. Now I am positive and even tempered. If your man is

still feeling negative, either the Androgel is not raising his T levels

high enough or he is converting the T to estrogen. That is not a

sexist statement BTW. Transdermal T can be turned into estrogen. I

gather this has not been tested for or treated. Some doctors, Bless

them, are willing to prescribe T, however they are not up on managing

it completely. Read Dr Crisler's papers on TRT, they are a wealth of

information.

Take Care, Rey

[Guest guest]

Hi and Welcome did you come from WebMD.

Yes he will feel like this until his levels come up they need to be in the

upper 1/3 of his labs range for a young man for both Free and Total

Testosterone. Also he needs to have his Estrasiol " E2 " checked if this is high

and I feel it is he will feel out of it and be withdrawn some call it brain fog.

Also high E2 will keep his libido down and can cause ED. As for keeping an eye

on cancer we all have to do this on T meds. of TRT.

First he needs to get his T levels up and his E2 down then his body will start

to repair the damage done by having low T for so long. In less then 4 months

you will have your man back. We have a links section here at the home page on

the left side full of links to info on low T learn as much as you can about this

because most Dr.'s only know what the durg reps tell them. A good read is at

www.allthingsmale.com at the bottom of the sit read TRT: A Recipe for Success

and the HCG update. I went on this treatment 14 months ago and after 22 yrs. of

being T meds I now feel my best at 62 yrs of age.

Phil

howabout_that <howabout_that@...> wrote:

Hi, I am new to this group and was looking for some info to help me

cope. My hubby of 26 yrs was diagnosed with low t levels a few months

ago.He is 44. The problem I have, is that he has had a complete change

is personality that has me puzzled. He went from being outgoing and

warm to self absorbed and isolating himself even from family. Is this

normal? Its like living with another person.He is on androgel which

has to be monitored because his father had prostrate cancer that has

come back in other organs over the last 10 years but the dr. says he

really needs to stay on the gel. Just wondering if I could get some

feedback that might give me some insight on what is going on.

Thanks,Kim

[Guest guest]

Hey Kim - welcome to the group

Your hubby may be going through some mid-life issues compounded by the fact

that he may not feel like much of man anymore. The symptoms of hypogonadism can

really deflate the male ego. Also he is have to deal with the worry that he

might be in line to get prostate cancer. I would suggest you encourage him to

get on this board and spend some time reading the archives and educating

himself. There are numerous studies (referenced here) that says T treatment is

not associated with prostate cancer. It can cause pre-existing cancers to grow

however. Has he been checked out for this? What is his libido like? Does he have

ED issues. Most of us are dealing with these and have overcame them. It does

take time and effort but there can be a light at the end of the tunnel. He

should also become familiar with the various options for TRT and try them till

he finds what works.

Get him to read some of the responses - just knowing you are not alone helps

as well. I am 47 and started having problems at approximately the same age. It

took me a year to get straightened out but life is good again and well worth the

effort.

Good Luck and keep us posted - Arkansas

howabout_that <howabout_that@...> wrote:

Hi, I am new to this group and was looking for some info to help me

cope. My hubby of 26 yrs was diagnosed with low t levels a few months

ago.He is 44. The problem I have, is that he has had a complete change

is personality that has me puzzled. He went from being outgoing and

warm to self absorbed and isolating himself even from family. Is this

normal? Its like living with another person.He is on androgel which

has to be monitored because his father had prostrate cancer that has

come back in other organs over the last 10 years but the dr. says he

really needs to stay on the gel. Just wondering if I could get some

feedback that might give me some insight on what is going on.

Thanks,Kim

[Guest guest]

Hi Dan,

Thanks for your reply. He has been checked for cancer. They want to check him

every 3 months but even with insurance we were charged over 800. for the last

go round so he refused to go that often. I am doing alot of reading so I

appreciate groups like these and responses like yours that I can read. I tried

to talk to his dr. but the cure for alot of his emotional problems is for him to

go on zoloft and my hubby flat refuses to take it. I am beginning to think after

reading the posts we need to find another dr. that has a little more experience.

My hubby really likes this dr. so I haven't pushed it too much for him to get

another. Maybe I should say he likes this one more than flat refusing to go to a

dr. period. I will continue to read the posts and you guys will never know how

much insight is needed for the mate. I was told by his dr. to just be patience

but you know thats wears off fast. Trying to see how HE feels helps me to feel

better and I can see it is going to be important

for him to feel that way. Thanks again,Kim

Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> wrote:

Hey Kim - welcome to the group

Your hubby may be going through some mid-life issues compounded by the fact

that he may not feel like much of man anymore. The symptoms of hypogonadism can

really deflate the male ego. Also he is have to deal with the worry that he

might be in line to get prostate cancer. I would suggest you encourage him to

get on this board and spend some time reading the archives and educating

himself. There are numerous studies (referenced here) that says T treatment is

not associated with prostate cancer. It can cause pre-existing cancers to grow

however. Has he been checked out for this? What is his libido like? Does he have

ED issues. Most of us are dealing with these and have overcame them. It does

take time and effort but there can be a light at the end of the tunnel. He

should also become familiar with the various options for TRT and try them till

he finds what works.

Get him to read some of the responses - just knowing you are not alone helps

as well. I am 47 and started having problems at approximately the same age. It

took me a year to get straightened out but life is good again and well worth the

effort.

Good Luck and keep us posted - Arkansas

howabout_that <howabout_that@...> wrote:

Hi, I am new to this group and was looking for some info to help me

cope. My hubby of 26 yrs was diagnosed with low t levels a few months

ago.He is 44. The problem I have, is that he has had a complete change

is personality that has me puzzled. He went from being outgoing and

warm to self absorbed and isolating himself even from family. Is this

normal? Its like living with another person.He is on androgel which

has to be monitored because his father had prostrate cancer that has

come back in other organs over the last 10 years but the dr. says he

really needs to stay on the gel. Just wondering if I could get some

feedback that might give me some insight on what is going on.

Thanks,Kim

[Guest guest]

Your Welcome Kim

Let me throw this in also - hypo kills a man's aggressiveness also, you just

don't want to do anything about it, just keep the status quo. Sometimes its just

easier to not have sex than deal with the negative side affects (weak erections,

no erections, do desire). From a spouse standpoint, you have to think is it me

(he no longer cares) but in reality that is the farthest thing from the truth. I

absolutely hated disappointing my wife and got where I would avoid intimacy just

so I wouldn't be a disappointment " again " . This is a tough thing for a guy to

get over. It took a caring and very patient wife who helped me through it to get

back on track. Joining this group and her insisting I go to the Doc and do

something about it got me off my butt and I feel great now. I really think he

needs to be the one reading these - is he opposed to that?

Arkansas

kim melton <howabout_that@...> wrote:

Hi Dan,

Thanks for your reply. He has been checked for cancer. They want to check him

every 3 months but even with insurance we were charged over 800. for the last

go round so he refused to go that often. I am doing alot of reading so I

appreciate groups like these and responses like yours that I can read. I tried

to talk to his dr. but the cure for alot of his emotional problems is for him to

go on zoloft and my hubby flat refuses to take it. I am beginning to think after

reading the posts we need to find another dr. that has a little more experience.

My hubby really likes this dr. so I haven't pushed it too much for him to get

another. Maybe I should say he likes this one more than flat refusing to go to a

dr. period. I will continue to read the posts and you guys will never know how

much insight is needed for the mate. I was told by his dr. to just be patience

but you know thats wears off fast. Trying to see how HE feels helps me to feel

better and I can see it is going to be important

for him to feel that way. Thanks again,Kim

Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> wrote:

Hey Kim - welcome to the group

Your hubby may be going through some mid-life issues compounded by the fact

that he may not feel like much of man anymore. The symptoms of hypogonadism can

really deflate the male ego. Also he is have to deal with the worry that he

might be in line to get prostate cancer. I would suggest you encourage him to

get on this board and spend some time reading the archives and educating

himself. There are numerous studies (referenced here) that says T treatment is

not associated with prostate cancer. It can cause pre-existing cancers to grow

however. Has he been checked out for this? What is his libido like? Does he have

ED issues. Most of us are dealing with these and have overcame them. It does

take time and effort but there can be a light at the end of the tunnel. He

should also become familiar with the various options for TRT and try them till

he finds what works.

Get him to read some of the responses - just knowing you are not alone helps

as well. I am 47 and started having problems at approximately the same age. It

took me a year to get straightened out but life is good again and well worth the

effort.

Good Luck and keep us posted - Arkansas

howabout_that <howabout_that@...> wrote:

Hi, I am new to this group and was looking for some info to help me

cope. My hubby of 26 yrs was diagnosed with low t levels a few months

ago.He is 44. The problem I have, is that he has had a complete change

is personality that has me puzzled. He went from being outgoing and

warm to self absorbed and isolating himself even from family. Is this

normal? Its like living with another person.He is on androgel which

has to be monitored because his father had prostrate cancer that has

come back in other organs over the last 10 years but the dr. says he

really needs to stay on the gel. Just wondering if I could get some

feedback that might give me some insight on what is going on.

Thanks,Kim

[Guest guest]

>

> For Rey...

>

> You said your low T caused you to feel depressed and anxious. May

I ask...1) did you experience panic attacks when it was low? and 2)

how long did it take (once your T levels normalized) to stop feeling

depressed and anxious?

I did not ever experience a full on panic attack. I noticed changes in

my mood the second week after starting, but it was not until I had been

on for at least 2 months before I thought I was at my best. I did a

loading dose of 250 mg and 125 mg per week thereafter.

Rey