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Hello,

I'm new to this list. I'm 49 yo and for the last two years I've been

suffering of anxiety, mild depression, lack of energy, lost of

weight/muscle tone, body aches, lost of sexual appetite. I'm sleepy

during the day although I slept the whole night and it's difficult for

me to concentrate. I feel older than 49.

I found in the internet the description for andropause and I believe

that's what is happening to me. Could you please help with advice. I

don't have health insurance.

Thank you.

Best, JC

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Hi JC and Welcome.

I can help you here you can order labs from LEF. with out a Dr. at low prices.

First go to Dr. 's site and get the free a complimentary 12-month

subscription to Life Extension magazine.

www.allthingsmale.com

Then read Dr. 's TRT: A Recipe for Success and in this are labs he dose and

why.

Test your Total and Free Testosterone, Estradiol " E2 " , TSH, Free T3, Free T4,

morning fasting Cortisol and LH and FSH.

From this site.

http://www.lef.org/BloodTest/

When you order they will offer you a discount to join there club and your labs

you order from them will cost a lot less.

When you order labs they send you to LabCorp to have the blood tested.

In this link you can read about best ranges for labs.

http://www.lef.org/protocols/appendix/blood_testing_01.htm

When you get the results post them here with the units and ranges.

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Phil

> From: JC <silvacub2000@...>

> Subject: Andropause.

>

> Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 10:23 PM

> Hello,

> I'm new to this list. I'm 49 yo and for the last

> two years I've been

> suffering of anxiety, mild depression, lack of energy, lost

> of

> weight/muscle tone, body aches, lost of sexual appetite.

> I'm sleepy

> during the day although I slept the whole night and

> it's difficult for

> me to concentrate. I feel older than 49.

> I found in the internet the description for andropause and

> I believe

> that's what is happening to me. Could you please help

> with advice. I

> don't have health insurance.

> Thank you.

> Best, JC

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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Thank you Phil,

I'll work on your instructions as soon as I go back

home tonite. This is a whole new subject for me and

I've been doing some reading.

According to what I've read so far, the standard range

of total T is 280-800 ng/dL. Base on this statement,

if a person natural levels of total T two years ago

were around 750 ng/dL and it dropped to... let's say

450 ng/dL, then according to the chart is still OK,

but I wonder if that drop in total T would have an

impact in your health.

What do you think?

Thank you, JC

--- philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

> Hi JC and Welcome.

>

> I can help you here you can order labs from LEF.

> with out a Dr. at low prices. First go to Dr.

> 's site and get the free a complimentary

> 12-month subscription to Life Extension magazine.

> www.allthingsmale.com

> Then read Dr. 's TRT: A Recipe for Success and

> in this are labs he dose and why.

> Test your Total and Free Testosterone, Estradiol

> " E2 " , TSH, Free T3, Free T4, morning fasting

> Cortisol and LH and FSH.

> From this site.

> http://www.lef.org/BloodTest/

> When you order they will offer you a discount to

> join there club and your labs you order from them

> will cost a lot less.

>

> When you order labs they send you to LabCorp to have

> the blood tested.

>

> In this link you can read about best ranges for

> labs.

>

http://www.lef.org/protocols/appendix/blood_testing_01.htm

>

> When you get the results post them here with the

> units and ranges.

>

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

>

>

>

> > From: JC <silvacub2000@...>

> > Subject: Andropause.

> >

> > Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 10:23 PM

> > Hello,

> > I'm new to this list. I'm 49 yo and for the last

> > two years I've been

> > suffering of anxiety, mild depression, lack of

> energy, lost

> > of

> > weight/muscle tone, body aches, lost of sexual

> appetite.

> > I'm sleepy

> > during the day although I slept the whole night

> and

> > it's difficult for

> > me to concentrate. I feel older than 49.

> > I found in the internet the description for

> andropause and

> > I believe

> > that's what is happening to me. Could you please

> help

> > with advice. I

> > don't have health insurance.

> > Thank you.

> > Best, JC

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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There was a study showing any man under 500 can have some bad ED problems. You

can find it in the files or links section I feel anyone under 500 is going to

shorten the end of the life.

http://www.vitacost.com/newsletter/newsletter.cfm?nl=387 & csrc=EM-FYH20080718:mai\

n

http://men.webmd.com/news/20070605/low-testosterone-may-up-male-mortality?ecd=wn\

l_men_072407

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Phil

> >

> > > From: JC <silvacub2000@...>

> > > Subject: Andropause.

> > >

> > > Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 10:23 PM

> > > Hello,

> > > I'm new to this list. I'm 49 yo and for

> the last

> > > two years I've been

> > > suffering of anxiety, mild depression, lack of

> > energy, lost

> > > of

> > > weight/muscle tone, body aches, lost of sexual

> > appetite.

> > > I'm sleepy

> > > during the day although I slept the whole night

> > and

> > > it's difficult for

> > > me to concentrate. I feel older than 49.

> > > I found in the internet the description for

> > andropause and

> > > I believe

> > > that's what is happening to me. Could you

> please

> > help

> > > with advice. I

> > > don't have health insurance.

> > > Thank you.

> > > Best, JC

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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Hi Phil,

I had my blood tested and these are the results.

Testosterone total: 476

Cholesterol: 199

Tryglyceride: 198

HDL: 33

LDL calculated: 126

Cholesterol/High density Lipoprotein: 6.0

TSH: 1.40

Creatinine: 1.3

Glomerulal filtration rate: 63-NB

LH: 1.3

WBC'S auto: 8.8

RBC auto: 5.14

HGB: 16.1

HCT, auto: 46.4

MCV: 90.3

MCH: 31.3

MCHC: 34.7

RDW, blood: 12.9

Platelets, automated count: 242

ALT: 21

Glucose, fasting: 83

I would like to have testosterone therapy and see if I

feel better.

What do you recommend?

Thank you, JC

--- philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

> Hi JC and Welcome.

>

> I can help you here you can order labs from LEF.

> with out a Dr. at low prices. First go to Dr.

> 's site and get the free a complimentary

> 12-month subscription to Life Extension magazine.

> www.allthingsmale.com

> Then read Dr. 's TRT: A Recipe for Success and

> in this are labs he dose and why.

> Test your Total and Free Testosterone, Estradiol

> " E2 " , TSH, Free T3, Free T4, morning fasting

> Cortisol and LH and FSH.

> From this site.

> http://www.lef.org/BloodTest/

> When you order they will offer you a discount to

> join there club and your labs you order from them

> will cost a lot less.

>

> When you order labs they send you to LabCorp to have

> the blood tested.

>

> In this link you can read about best ranges for

> labs.

>

http://www.lef.org/protocols/appendix/blood_testing_01.htm

>

> When you get the results post them here with the

> units and ranges.

>

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

>

>

>

> > From: JC <silvacub2000@...>

> > Subject: Andropause.

> >

> > Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 10:23 PM

> > Hello,

> > I'm new to this list. I'm 49 yo and for the last

> > two years I've been

> > suffering of anxiety, mild depression, lack of

> energy, lost

> > of

> > weight/muscle tone, body aches, lost of sexual

> appetite.

> > I'm sleepy

> > during the day although I slept the whole night

> and

> > it's difficult for

> > me to concentrate. I feel older than 49.

> > I found in the internet the description for

> andropause and

> > I believe

> > that's what is happening to me. Could you please

> help

> > with advice. I

> > don't have health insurance.

> > Thank you.

> > Best, JC

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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With what you have tested with your Total T low and your LH low you need more

labs like Estradiol if this is not to high your secondary meaning your Pituitary

needs looking at do an MRI to rule out a tumor this is not cancer but you need

to know why your low before going on TRT. For the best way in doing this go to

Dr. 's site at www.allthingsmale.com and read TRT: A Recipe for Success and

his HCG update in this are labs you need and why.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> >

> > > From: JC <silvacub2000@...>

> > > Subject: Andropause.

> > >

> > > Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 10:23 PM

> > > Hello,

> > > I'm new to this list. I'm 49 yo and for

> the last

> > > two years I've been

> > > suffering of anxiety, mild depression, lack of

> > energy, lost

> > > of

> > > weight/muscle tone, body aches, lost of sexual

> > appetite.

> > > I'm sleepy

> > > during the day although I slept the whole night

> > and

> > > it's difficult for

> > > me to concentrate. I feel older than 49.

> > > I found in the internet the description for

> > andropause and

> > > I believe

> > > that's what is happening to me. Could you

> please

> > help

> > > with advice. I

> > > don't have health insurance.

> > > Thank you.

> > > Best, JC

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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