Re: Long term TRT question

[Guest guest]

Yes your body will go back to where you were before you started unless things

got worse. The Question is how long some start back up in less then 4 week

others 6 months to a yr.

vaiisking1026 <vaiisking@...> wrote:

If a patient, after years of evaluation and trials, decides to go

ahead with lifelong TRT, but after a long time of say...a year or so,

decides it just doesn't seem to fix the initial problems or has too

many negative effects he can't live with, can/does the brain start

sensing no T in the system and releasing LH/FSH again after such a

long time?

I know there is probably a variable answer to this, but if I decide to

start TRT again, and after a year or so it doesn't work, I want to be

able to at least get the meager results I get while not on TRT.

God Bless,

Chris

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[Guest guest]

I heard from a visitor to this forum that his symptoms returned and it became

pretty ugly after he discontinued TRT. I have mild side effects and would be

interested in yours to see if we have some of them in common.

I used to vomit randomly and supposedly that's not related to TRT. But I'm not

the only visitor to this forum that has experienced nausea. I have cramps, wierd

headaches and my face turns red.

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

Yes your body will go back to where you were before you started unless

things got worse. The Question is how long some start back up in less then 4

week others 6 months to a yr.

vaiisking1026 <vaiisking@...> wrote:

If a patient, after years of evaluation and trials, decides to go

ahead with lifelong TRT, but after a long time of say...a year or so,

decides it just doesn't seem to fix the initial problems or has too

many negative effects he can't live with, can/does the brain start

sensing no T in the system and releasing LH/FSH again after such a

long time?

I know there is probably a variable answer to this, but if I decide to

start TRT again, and after a year or so it doesn't work, I want to be

able to at least get the meager results I get while not on TRT.

God Bless,

Chris

Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. "

Phil

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[Guest guest]

> If a patient, after years of evaluation and trials, decides to go

> ahead with lifelong TRT, but after a long time of say...a year or so,

> decides it just doesn't seem to fix the initial problems or has too

> many negative effects he can't live with, can/does the brain start

> sensing no T in the system and releasing LH/FSH again after such a

> long time?

>

> I know there is probably a variable answer to this, but if I decide to

> start TRT again, and after a year or so it doesn't work, I want to be

> able to at least get the meager results I get while not on TRT.

>

> God Bless,

> Chris

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> Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what

you see. "

> Phil

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I've been on TRT since 1991. Now at 75 I still enjoy the benefits

which are very evident based on those outlined in Dr Eugene Shippen's

book, " The Testosterone Syndrome " . As so many expect this was not a

cure for my age related ED which returned after a couple of months of

fantastic erections. My level of high T stabilized and my

endocrinologist tells me this was to be expected.

Depending on why your T level is low, you probably can expect no

severe response by your body if you choose to stop.

My endocrinologist tells me he has many that start TRT will not

continue because the benefits the patient expected were not seen. Some

patients expect a cure for ED which can be due to several causes and

it is rare in my opinion that TRT can restore performance. The body

converts T to E2 and makes thing worse for many when they start TRT.

Another very significant factor here is the type or form of T therapy

which may not be absorbed thru the skin efficiently resulting in the

T level never rising above 800 where the benefits can be felt.

The best or most efficient forms of T therapy seem to be weekly or

twice weekly injections or hormone pellets injected under the skin

every 4 months. These forms do allow the patient to easily raise their

level of T to 800+.

I prefer hormone pellets but it is tough to find a doctor that offers

that form of therapy. Pellets allow the patient to have no involvement

with his therapy until he receives the next set of pellets after 4

months. My cost was about $450. every 4 months but in Augusta, GA most

of this cost is paid for under Medicare. Not so in other parts of the

nation.

ernestnolan

>

>

> If a patient, after years of evaluation and trials, decides to go

> ahead with lifelong TRT, but after a long time of say...a year or so,

> decides it just doesn't seem to fix the initial problems or has too

> many negative effects he can't live with, can/does the brain start

> sensing no T in the system and releasing LH/FSH again after such a

> long time?

>

> I know there is probably a variable answer to this, but if I decide to

> start TRT again, and after a year or so it doesn't work, I want to be

> able to at least get the meager results I get while not on TRT.

>

> God Bless,

> Chris

>

[Guest guest]

I tried gels, patches and shots from May 2006 until December 2006, when

I switched to Clomid and re-start. My system took from December 2006

to June 2007 to effectively wake-up. Not sure if this m(6-7 months) is

usual or not, but it's normal for me, I guess.

Blessings,

Bill

>

>

> If a patient, after years of evaluation and trials, decides to go

> ahead with lifelong TRT, but after a long time of say...a year or so,

> decides it just doesn't seem to fix the initial problems or has too

> many negative effects he can't live with, can/does the brain start

> sensing no T in the system and releasing LH/FSH again after such a

> long time?

>

> I know there is probably a variable answer to this, but if I decide to

> start TRT again, and after a year or so it doesn't work, I want to be

> able to at least get the meager results I get while not on TRT.

>

> God Bless,

> Chris

>

[Guest guest]

Yes or you can go on HCG after you stop to get you started faster.

vaiisking1026 <vaiisking@...> wrote:

> If a patient, after years of evaluation and trials, decides to go

> ahead with lifelong TRT, but after a long time of say...a year or so,

> decides it just doesn't seem to fix the initial problems or has too

> many negative effects he can't live with, can/does the brain start

> sensing no T in the system and releasing LH/FSH again after such a

> long time?

>

> I know there is probably a variable answer to this, but if I decide to

> start TRT again, and after a year or so it doesn't work, I want to be

> able to at least get the meager results I get while not on TRT.

>

> God Bless,

> Chris

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what

you see. "

> Phil

>

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>

[Guest guest]

>

> I heard from a visitor to this forum that his symptoms returned and

it became pretty ugly after he discontinued TRT. I have mild side

effects and would be interested in yours to see if we have some of

them in common.

>

> I used to vomit randomly and supposedly that's not related to TRT.

But I'm not the only visitor to this forum that has experienced

nausea. I have cramps, wierd headaches and my face turns red.

>

,

I was only on TRT for a very short period...two months. For me, I

don't believe I gave it a fair enough chance to stabilize, and I was

adjusting the dose without my doctors consent. Bad idea...

Therefore, I can't really say how it has been to discontinue TRT,

because my symptoms have persisted for 2 years now. They are, in order

of importance to me...

Depression

Insomnia

Lethargy

Memory

Motivation

Erection probs ( I can't keep the erection for long, and the one I do

have is only what I call 50% )

Ernestolan,

I'm sorry to hear you have persistent ED, but for me, I could care

less if I never improve this. I just want to have some degree of

happiness, and contentment. Sleeping without a sleeping pill would be

nice too

God Bless,

Chris

P.S. I am to schedule my virtual office visit with Dr. as he has

received the urine results from my test.

[Guest guest]

I would want to think that you'd want to relieve yourself of those ugly symptoms

first. I had depression, anxiety, heat flashes, mood swings up and down. TRT

injections fixed it for the most part although it's not perfect. From time to

time I have those side effects mentioned below.

Gonadal function is fine although it's not a priority with me. What was

important was to get some control back into my life. Sometimes I'm flat,

sometimes I want to go all the time.

I had a hard time finding a doctor in my area that offered good treatment.

That seems to be a consensus around here, guys not finding doctors skilled

enough to treat this disorder.

People seem to be having success with this Dr. that's mentioned in this

forum. Good luck with that however I'd prefer to talk to my doctor face to face.

Fortunately I have a doctor that is about my age and is a patient of primary

hypogonadism too so he understands.

said sleeping without a pill would be nice. I get up several times a

night. Is this common among us?

vaiisking1026 <vaiisking@...> wrote:

>

> I heard from a visitor to this forum that his symptoms returned and

it became pretty ugly after he discontinued TRT. I have mild side

effects and would be interested in yours to see if we have some of

them in common.

>

> I used to vomit randomly and supposedly that's not related to TRT.

But I'm not the only visitor to this forum that has experienced

nausea. I have cramps, wierd headaches and my face turns red.

>

,

I was only on TRT for a very short period...two months. For me, I

don't believe I gave it a fair enough chance to stabilize, and I was

adjusting the dose without my doctors consent. Bad idea...

Therefore, I can't really say how it has been to discontinue TRT,

because my symptoms have persisted for 2 years now. They are, in order

of importance to me...

Depression

Insomnia

Lethargy

Memory

Motivation

Erection probs ( I can't keep the erection for long, and the one I do

have is only what I call 50% )

Ernestolan,

I'm sorry to hear you have persistent ED, but for me, I could care

less if I never improve this. I just want to have some degree of

happiness, and contentment. Sleeping without a sleeping pill would be

nice too

God Bless,

Chris

P.S. I am to schedule my virtual office visit with Dr. as he has

received the urine results from my test.

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