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Hello everyone,

I’m fairly new to this group, I have been doing allot of reading at

this site and it’s been very informative.

I’ve been recently diagnosed with secondary hypogonadism in the last

few months but I think I have been suffering with this for many years

now. Ten years ago I was diagnosed with Hypothyroidism after

consulting a GP regarding many of the same symptoms I’m finding out

that also results with hypogonadism. I was treated for my thyroid but

when I wasn’t feeling any better we started on the psychotropic band

wagon. After going to three different psychiatrists and many different

meds that I would quit because they did nothing for me I finally gave

up and resigned my self to having to feel this way.

At 38 and after being married for eight years and no kids my wife and

I decided to look into the problem so I requested my doctor to give me

a script for a sperm analysis he said before that lets look at your T

levels so he checked my TTL T’s I believe they where around 120 so on

to the Endo.. I went. She took some tests and found my Free T’s to be

“way below normal†I’m still waiting for my copies I’ll post when I

have them all.

Problem was she wanted us to go to a fertility clinic to be treated

being we where talking about having kids so I went and they did there

tests and the only thing they would do for my wife and I was IVF and

possibly give me “clomed†to increase my T’s so they could get a

viable sample. Needless to say we don’t have the money to pay for this

and our insurance will only cover 5k of the procedures so we have

decided to adopt instead.

So back to the Endo and after arguing for some time she agreed to put

me on T therapy. 5g of Androderm. I tried this for 3 weeks and was

feeling about 60% better but couldn’t deal with the skin issues even

using hydrocordisol cream so I had her switch me to Androgel 5g but

this doesn’t seem to be having the same affect. I tried using 1 ½

packs one day to see what happened and felt much better so I’m going

to have to call her and have my dose increased.

Ok that’s my history so now some questions:

What is the usual dose people are using; I’m 6’2 300lb 37 years old.

My Endo (after much arguing) has agreed to put me on 500iu HCG once a

week to relive the atrophy issue and from what I have been reading I

should see some other benefits also. I am waiting on MEDCO’s approval

is there anything else I should know about doing this, any input would

be appreciated.

My Endo refuses to test me for E2/DHT she just tells me “we don’t do

that†I hate to sound disingenuous but I’m having a consultation with

a Urologist next week who’s office says they do these tests and treat

many patients with my conditions. From my talks with the Endo she

doesn’t seem to have much experience in treating Low T’s.

So am I being to extreme about this?

Thank you in advance for any input you could provide me,

Pat

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