Re: Anyone else here have difficulty with injections?

[Guest guest]

Hi

The one thing that is vital is to jab it sufficiently hard and this causes

less pain. As long as you have the right sized needle and the right part of

the leg. If you try to just push it into the skin then the pain is many

times worse. One hard jab and frequently as other can also testify there is

often little or no pain.

ARe you saying you have myalgia (ie muslce pain) 24/7? In that case just

discuss your actual case with your medic or a good nurse who is used to

giving injections.

Also ensure you are as relaxed as possible. Get you leg relaxed and be

sitting where it is comfortable. May sure you are warmn and in a warm room.

I usually have a bath prior to ensure (i) cleanliness but also (ii) muscle

is warm and relaxed

Hope this helps?

Kind regards

Anyone else here have difficulty with injections?

> When I do decide to give my self T injections (i dont do them

> regulary),they leave me with terrible charlie horses and the pain when

> inserting the needle into my thigh is almost unbearable. I only do

> this when i dont have anyone else to inject it into my ventrogluteal

> (which is painless to me). Im guessing the pain in my leg is the

> result from lipodystrophy (chronic wasting away of fat tissue) as well

> as muscle atrophy. Any suggestions on self-injecting?

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[Guest guest]

My only tips are use the thinnest shortest needle you can get away with (I

use 25g 1 " ), make sure you're in a good muscular area. Go SLOW on the

actual injection of fluid to give it time to disperse, and massage the area

well afterwards to disperse it more.

Why can't you do the ventro gluteal yourself, isn't that the side of your

hip or so? That should be self injectable...heck, I think lots of AAS guys

self inject in the gluteus maximus. I'd love to tdo the ventro, but not

quite sure of the sweet spot and so afraid to try without professional

guidance the first time.

> Anyone else here have difficulty with

>injections?

>

>When I do decide to give my self T injections (i dont do them

>regulary),they leave me with terrible charlie horses and the

>pain when inserting the needle into my thigh is almost

>unbearable. I only do this when i dont have anyone else to

>inject it into my ventrogluteal (which is painless to me). Im

>guessing the pain in my leg is the result from lipodystrophy

>(chronic wasting away of fat tissue) as well as muscle

>atrophy. Any suggestions on self-injecting?

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[Guest guest]

Joe what size needle do you use I hope it is not the one your use for the

other shot. I was using a 25g 3ml x 1 " lg. needle and my leg was sore after. I

now do my T shots every 3 days using a 27g 1ml x 1/2 " long in my leg. Doing

this is a smaller shot and I hope it will keep my E2 down. Plus I don't feel

the big rush like I did from my weekly shot.

http://spotinjections.com/index3.htm

Phil

joecav84 <joecav84@...> wrote:

When I do decide to give my self T injections (i dont do them

regulary),they leave me with terrible charlie horses and the pain when

inserting the needle into my thigh is almost unbearable. I only do

this when i dont have anyone else to inject it into my ventrogluteal

(which is painless to me). Im guessing the pain in my leg is the

result from lipodystrophy (chronic wasting away of fat tissue) as well

as muscle atrophy. Any suggestions on self-injecting?

[Guest guest]

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The jab it in is certainly what is the least pain free, but for me, I always

go slow JUST in case I am in position to hit a nerve - as I did a few weeks

ago. By going slow, I was able to back off without really hurting it, even

though the pain lasted several days anyways.

Still once, you're experienced with site selection to be sure you're nerve

and blood vessel free, a quick jab is the best advice, it's what I see the

nurses do.

> Re: Anyone else here have difficulty

>with injections?

>

>Hi

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>The one thing that is vital is to jab it sufficiently hard and

>this causes less pain. As long as you have the right sized

>needle and the right part of the leg. If you try to just push

>it into the skin then the pain is many times worse. One hard

>jab and frequently as other can also testify there is often

>little or no pain.

>

>ARe you saying you have myalgia (ie muslce pain) 24/7? In that

>case just discuss your actual case with your medic or a good

>nurse who is used to giving injections.

>

>Also ensure you are as relaxed as possible. Get you leg

>relaxed and be sitting where it is comfortable. May sure you

>are warmn and in a warm room.

>I usually have a bath prior to ensure (i) cleanliness but also

>(ii) muscle is warm and relaxed

>

>Hope this helps?

>

>Kind regards

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> Anyone else here have difficulty with

>injections?

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>> When I do decide to give my self T injections (i dont do them

>> regulary),they leave me with terrible charlie horses and the

>pain when

>> inserting the needle into my thigh is almost unbearable. I only do

>> this when i dont have anyone else to inject it into my ventrogluteal

>> (which is painless to me). Im guessing the pain in my leg is the

>> result from lipodystrophy (chronic wasting away of fat

>tissue) as well

>> as muscle atrophy. Any suggestions on self-injecting?

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[Guest guest]

On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 14:32:08 -0000, you wrote:

>The one thing that is vital is to jab it sufficiently hard and this causes

>less pain. As long as you have the right sized needle and the right part of

>the leg. If you try to just push it into the skin then the pain is many

>times worse. One hard jab and frequently as other can also testify there is

>often little or no pain.

A nurse that used to do my injections would lightly slap the site, and

then pinch up a bunch of skin and tissue and then inject as she let

go. It covered the pain of the needle entry quite nicely.

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Just another albino black sheep

[Guest guest]

On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 11:38:22 -0000, you wrote:

>When I do decide to give my self T injections (i dont do them

>regulary),they leave me with terrible charlie horses and the pain when

>inserting the needle into my thigh is almost unbearable. I only do

>this when i dont have anyone else to inject it into my ventrogluteal

>(which is painless to me). Im guessing the pain in my leg is the

>result from lipodystrophy (chronic wasting away of fat tissue) as well

>as muscle atrophy. Any suggestions on self-injecting?

Another thought. Use a separate new needle to inject. there is some

dulling of the needle in puncturing the vial. Also people tend to use

a larger needle for drawing then you want for an injection. What size

needle are you injecting with?

My nurse used to draw with an 18 guage and inject with a 23.

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Just another albino black sheep

[Guest guest]

I always ice the area before before the injection to numb the area . I

then slowly insert the needle. I make sure that my leg is streched out

straight and that my muscle is not tense before pushing into the

muscle. I then do the regular draw to see there is no blood and then

inject. I usually get a little soreness a day or so later but this way

has worked for me for minumum pain.

[Guest guest]

Well doing a lower dose every 3 days with a 27g x 1/2 needle is heaven. If I

have to go back to one shot 150mgs. a week I will go back to my Dr.'s office and

get them in the rear. To much pain doing a big shot like this in my leg.

Phil

huckfor1 <huckfor1@...> wrote:

I always ice the area before before the injection to numb the area . I

then slowly insert the needle. I make sure that my leg is streched out

straight and that my muscle is not tense before pushing into the

muscle. I then do the regular draw to see there is no blood and then

inject. I usually get a little soreness a day or so later but this way

has worked for me for minumum pain.

[Guest guest]

Any particular reason you're injecting in the thigh? I inject in the

glutes.. hardly hurts at all if you get it in the upper outer quadrant.

>

> When I do decide to give my self T injections (i dont do them

> regulary),they leave me with terrible charlie horses and the pain when

> inserting the needle into my thigh is almost unbearable. I only do

> this when i dont have anyone else to inject it into my ventrogluteal

> (which is painless to me). Im guessing the pain in my leg is the

> result from lipodystrophy (chronic wasting away of fat tissue) as well

> as muscle atrophy. Any suggestions on self-injecting?

>

[Guest guest]

Thighs are a great place to inject... have you tried different sites on

your thigh?? If you haven't already... check out spotinjections.com.

They show different places to inject.

Is there a reason why you don't just self-inject in the ventrogluteal??

Glutes can be difficult for some, but ventro is generally easy to

reach.

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> > When I do decide to give my self T injections (i dont do them

> > regulary),they leave me with terrible charlie horses and the pain

when

> > inserting the needle into my thigh is almost unbearable. I only do

> > this when i dont have anyone else to inject it into my

ventrogluteal

> > (which is painless to me). Im guessing the pain in my leg is the

> > result from lipodystrophy (chronic wasting away of fat tissue) as

well

> > as muscle atrophy. Any suggestions on self-injecting?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Phil a question, Are you doing HCG and if you are how is the dosing with the

three shots a week? Do you do it the two days in between? TIA

S

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[Guest guest]

I am doing 100 IU's of HCG a day and doing Depo T 64mgs every 3 days to see if

it helps keep my E2 down. I did my 2nd T shot last Thur. and Fri started

breaking out on my legs has to do 1.5 Arimidex to bring it down. I am in a lot

of stress my mother in law is in the Hosp. dieing. I have been her care giver

for the last 6 yrs. when my wife was at work. All of his stress is eating up my

T meds. as fast as I take them. So I can't say if this is going to work. I

mean she is 85 and did good up to New Years Eve then started having trouble.

Even though you know she will go anyday and it is the best for her it is hard.

Phil

Savario <savario2000@...> wrote:

Phil a question, Are you doing HCG and if you are how is the dosing with the

three shots a week? Do you do it the two days in between? TIA

S

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