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OMG look at your free T3. Most of us feel better with a TSH under 1. The

lab is using outdated ranges. Your doc must be as bright as a new penny.

Gracia.

>

> Want to know your thoughts on my most recent test results:

> Free T4 1.4 Range [0.8 - 1.9]

> TSH 4.721 Range [0.3 - 5.6]

> Free T3 103 Range [210 - 440]

> T3 96 Range [65 - 164]

>

> I am exhausted most of the time and have to drag myself out of bed in the

morning and by mid afternoon, could easily take a nap. I have very little

energy to even go to the gym after work. Is this a result of the very low

Free T3?

>

> I am currently taking 100 MG of Synthroid and have been at this dosage

since December of last year.

>

> Thanks for your help and information.

>

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Jenn,

You wrote:

>

> Want to know your thoughts on my most recent test results:

> Free T4 1.4 Range [0.8 - 1.9]

> TSH 4.721 Range [0.3 - 5.6]

> Free T3 103 Range [210 - 440]

> T3 96 Range [65 - 164]

>

> I am exhausted most of the time and have to drag myself out of bed in

> the morning and by mid afternoon, could easily take a nap. I have very

> little energy to even go to the gym after work. Is this a result of the

> very low Free T3? ...

Very likely. You might feel better with TSH below 2, but this suggests a

conversion problem.

Chuck

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your free t3 is so low - and your doc is only giving you Synthroid!!!!

shame on him/her. No wonder you are exhausted. Your free t's need to be

at the top of the range not below the bottom!

Kerry

Recent results.

Want to know your thoughts on my most recent test results:

Free T4 1.4 Range [0.8 - 1.9]

TSH 4.721 Range [0.3 - 5.6]

Free T3 103 Range [210 - 440]

T3 96 Range [65 - 164]

I am exhausted most of the time and have to drag myself out of bed in

the morning and by mid afternoon, could easily take a nap. I have very

little energy to even go to the gym after work. Is this a result of the

very low Free T3?

I am currently taking 100 MG of Synthroid and have been at this dosage

since December of last year.

Thanks for your help and information.

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In a message dated 8/23/05 12:29:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

southallp@... writes:

The lab was Quest Diagnostics Nichols Institute, I

> thought I had read that they were well respected

I hate that lab. Unfortunately that is the one contracted by my HMO

therefore It costs me nothing but my insurance premium. I have found so many

mistakes

on my reports over time that I had to contact their headquarters to get it

straightened out.

Helena

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The lab was Quest Diagnostics Nichols Institute, I thought I had read that they

were well respected.

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

OMG look at your free T3. Most of us feel better with a TSH under 1. The

lab is using outdated ranges. Your doc must be as bright as a new penny.

Gracia.

>

> Want to know your thoughts on my most recent test results:

> Free T4 1.4 Range [0.8 - 1.9]

> TSH 4.721 Range [0.3 - 5.6]

> Free T3 103 Range [210 - 440]

> T3 96 Range [65 - 164]

>

> I am exhausted most of the time and have to drag myself out of bed in the

morning and by mid afternoon, could easily take a nap. I have very little

energy to even go to the gym after work. Is this a result of the very low

Free T3?

>

> I am currently taking 100 MG of Synthroid and have been at this dosage

since December of last year.

>

> Thanks for your help and information.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Start your day with - make it your home page

>

>

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Pamela wrote:

> I don't know about respected, but they sure over

> charge.

>

> This was my billing:

>

> DHEA - $151.50

> Progesterone 126.50

> T-3 43.00

> Thyrozine 106.20

> TSH 108.25

> Venipuncture 19.50

> Estradiol 158.30

>

> for a total of $713.25

>

> What is everyone else being charged?

My last TSH was about $70; T3 was $30.

Chuck

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this is robbery. http://www.antibodyassay.com is a great lab and charges

half of that.

Gracia

> I don't know about respected, but they sure over

> charge.

>

> This was my billing:

>

> DHEA - $151.50

> Progesterone 126.50

> T-3 43.00

> Thyrozine 106.20

> TSH 108.25

> Venipuncture 19.50

> Estradiol 158.30

>

> for a total of $713.25

>

> What is everyone else being charged?

>

> --- Jenn <stacyjatl@...> wrote:

>

> > The lab was Quest Diagnostics Nichols Institute, I

> > thought I had read that they were well respected.

> >

> > Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

> > OMG look at your free T3. Most of us feel better

> > with a TSH under 1. The

> > lab is using outdated ranges. Your doc must be as

> > bright as a new penny.

> > Gracia.

>

>

> __________________________________________________

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Unfortunately, they are also by choice of my insurance. I just went to my

crackpot dr, and was told that my levels mean nothing, that free T3 means

nothing. I asked why there was a range and she said she didn't care. I asked

why she wouldn't consider any medication but Synthroid and she said " because I

don't " . I am seriously considering filing a complaint with the state and the

insurance company.

Frustrated and Exhausted in Greenville, SC

Jenn

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

this is robbery. http://www.antibodyassay.com is a great lab and charges

half of that.

Gracia

> I don't know about respected, but they sure over

> charge.

>

> This was my billing:

>

> DHEA - $151.50

> Progesterone 126.50

> T-3 43.00

> Thyrozine 106.20

> TSH 108.25

> Venipuncture 19.50

> Estradiol 158.30

>

> for a total of $713.25

>

> What is everyone else being charged?

>

> --- Jenn <stacyjatl@...> wrote:

>

> > The lab was Quest Diagnostics Nichols Institute, I

> > thought I had read that they were well respected.

> >

> > Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

> > OMG look at your free T3. Most of us feel better

> > with a TSH under 1. The

> > lab is using outdated ranges. Your doc must be as

> > bright as a new penny.

> > Gracia.

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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no---doc orders the tests for you and you fedex 24 hr urine to them. or

maybe they do other stuff like blood I don't know. You have to get the info

from them.

Gracia

> I checked the website and couldn't find a local lab to

> get my blood drawn.

>

> Pamela

>

> --- Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > this is robbery. http://www.antibodyassay.com is a

> > great lab and charges

> > half of that.

> > Gracia

> >

>

>

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> http://www./r/hs

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have you looked at the doc lists? http://www.geocities.com/thyroide

Gracia

> Unfortunately, they are also by choice of my insurance. I just went to my

crackpot dr, and was told that my levels mean nothing, that free T3 means

nothing. I asked why there was a range and she said she didn't care. I

asked why she wouldn't consider any medication but Synthroid and she said

" because I don't " . I am seriously considering filing a complaint with the

state and the insurance company.

>

> Frustrated and Exhausted in Greenville, SC

> Jenn

>

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Yes, there are none in SC that I can find.

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

have you looked at the doc lists? http://www.geocities.com/thyroide

Gracia

> Unfortunately, they are also by choice of my insurance. I just went to my

crackpot dr, and was told that my levels mean nothing, that free T3 means

nothing. I asked why there was a range and she said she didn't care. I

asked why she wouldn't consider any medication but Synthroid and she said

" because I don't " . I am seriously considering filing a complaint with the

state and the insurance company.

>

> Frustrated and Exhausted in Greenville, SC

> Jenn

>

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Hello all.

Testosterone total

790

Free percentage

1.5

Total testosterone

118.6

======================

In September

Estradiol

147.24

======================

LH and FSH will forever be low on the current TRT.

I may add herbal and creams to my formula.

Later

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What TRT? How much, etc. are you on -- to get that result ? That is

great --- I'm in low 200s and on maximum amount of Androgel (10grams).

>

> Hello all.

>

> Testosterone total

>

> 790

>

> Free percentage

>

> 1.5

>

> Total testosterone

>

> 118.6

>

> ======================

> In September

>

> Estradiol

>

> 147.24

> ======================

>

> LH and FSH will forever be low on the current TRT.

>

> I may add herbal and creams to my formula.

>

> Later

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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I started out in the upper 100's. I am taking injections of 400 ML by weekly.

Welcome Jon and please continue to post.

jonfleetmac <jonfleetmac@...> wrote: What TRT? How much, etc. are you on

-- to get that result ? That is

great --- I'm in low 200s and on maximum amount of Androgel (10grams).

>

> Hello all.

>

> Testosterone total

>

> 790

>

> Free percentage

>

> 1.5

>

> Total testosterone

>

> 118.6

>

> ======================

> In September

>

> Estradiol

>

> 147.24

> ======================

>

> LH and FSH will forever be low on the current TRT.

>

> I may add herbal and creams to my formula.

>

> Later

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Hi,

If you are getting 400 mg of T every 2 weeks, that is about double the

dose for most here. There is a shift to taking the injections home and

injecting 50 mg twice a week so in 2 weeks you get the same total

amount of 200 mg.

This works better from the standpoint of conversion. The body does not

respond in a defensive way by converting the sudden spurt of T into E2

to try and get it back to what the body sees as normal. I've heard

there are some that suffer from high E2 without it being due to large

jolts of T.

ernestnolan

> >

> > Hello all.

> >

> > Testosterone total

> >

> > 790

> >

> > Free percentage

> >

> > 1.5

> >

> > Total testosterone

> >

> > 118.6

> >

> > ======================

> > In September

> >

> > Estradiol

> >

> > 147.24

> > ======================

> >

> > LH and FSH will forever be low on the current TRT.

> >

> > I may add herbal and creams to my formula.

> >

> > Later

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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I'm not saying I feel profound, but I cannot take anything below 300 MG per

dose.

If I do, horrible emotional difficulties on top, will surface again.

I do feel very tired and withdrawn. I think my body needs something else other

than just TRT. I will have to beg for an anti E2 again, to see if that will help

on Wed.

I read in bodybuilding forums, alterate TRT I can take, I guess with TRT I am

taking now which is FDA approved. Im not sure if they work for males in my

condition but I guess I will further research. If any male can advise please do.

My mind is still unbalanced; hard to focus and take directions. Horrible

feeling; same feeling among many that made too many things precluded from

understanding and emulating.

I feel due to not being on TRT all my life, I guess my body response to a higher

dose. But, I know from experimenting, I dont react to a smaller doses. every guy

is different I guess. I dont cure if my all ready small T, gets smaller due to

TRT. What? Too much TRT is going to prevent me from having children? hahaha, I

have the unfortunateness of that already; none of my doing...

The only thing I feel profound is:

Stronger bones and muscles.

Erections but still cannot last longer.

Oh, and the emotional difficulties lessen but I still deal with PTSD, and that

will need a powerful anti depressaint and extreme therapy to over come.

I think I may just have a chemical unbalance rather than the PH causing the

emotional breakdowns. After a full year on TRT, I realized TRT alone, isnt going

to stabilize my over all health. So, I must be co dependent on medications.

Hopefully I will learn how to life as a human being.

Hope all is fine.

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