Re: test cypionate syringe size

[Guest guest]

>

> I ha ve just switched from 7.5g testim/day to test cyp injections.

> After reading this site and Dr. 's, will be doing .5cc or

> 100ml/week from a 200mg/ml vial. Thanks to Philip and others, I told

> the endo and my GP what dosage should be used and frequency should be

> used. After being disgusted with endo, went back to my GP and he ok'd

> the cyp. Endo said after blood test and MRI, continue treatment and

> call me in 6 months. Sorry for the rambling, ayway, I will be injecting

> into my butt, had bad experiences years ago when injecting in my thigh.

> Can I use a 27 guage or 25g syringe 1 1/2. I have not ordered any

> syringes yet, hopefully I will be able to stick myself. Thanks for a

> great site.

>

It will take longer to push the oil thru smaller guage needles. I use

a 23 guage 1 1/2. I haven't seen a 27 guage 1 1/2 before.

[Guest guest]

I use a 23 gauge 3 ml syringe and inject in both thighs and butt. You do get

some minor bleeding with this size but applying a little pressure and it will

stop. Others have used smaller diameter needles with success but be prepared to

inject longer due to the thickness of the oil medium. I think Phil has been

using a 27 guage needle lately with success shooting a smaller dose more

frequently in the thigh.

Arkansas

philhow3 <philhow1@...> wrote:

I ha ve just switched from 7.5g testim/day to test cyp injections.

After reading this site and Dr. 's, will be doing .5cc or

100ml/week from a 200mg/ml vial. Thanks to Philip and others, I told

the endo and my GP what dosage should be used and frequency should be

used. After being disgusted with endo, went back to my GP and he ok'd

the cyp. Endo said after blood test and MRI, continue treatment and

call me in 6 months. Sorry for the rambling, ayway, I will be injecting

into my butt, had bad experiences years ago when injecting in my thigh.

Can I use a 27 guage or 25g syringe 1 1/2. I have not ordered any

syringes yet, hopefully I will be able to stick myself. Thanks for a

great site.

[Guest guest]

I also use a 23 guage 3 ml syringe but only inject in thy as I can see better

whether I hit a vein or not. Phil just said he hadn't heard of a 27 guage

syringe

yesterday.

Roy

Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> wrote:

I use a 23 gauge 3 ml syringe and inject in both thighs and butt. You do get

some minor bleeding with this size but applying a little pressure and it will

stop. Others have used smaller diameter needles with success but be prepared to

inject longer due to the thickness of the oil medium. I think Phil has been

using a 27 guage needle lately with success shooting a smaller dose more

frequently in the thigh.

Arkansas

philhow3 <philhow1@...> wrote:

I ha ve just switched from 7.5g testim/day to test cyp injections.

After reading this site and Dr. 's, will be doing .5cc or

100ml/week from a 200mg/ml vial. Thanks to Philip and others, I told

the endo and my GP what dosage should be used and frequency should be

used. After being disgusted with endo, went back to my GP and he ok'd

the cyp. Endo said after blood test and MRI, continue treatment and

call me in 6 months. Sorry for the rambling, ayway, I will be injecting

into my butt, had bad experiences years ago when injecting in my thigh.

Can I use a 27 guage or 25g syringe 1 1/2. I have not ordered any

syringes yet, hopefully I will be able to stick myself. Thanks for a

great site.

[Guest guest]

Yes I am but it is getting to be a pain in the ass I am thinking there has to be

a better way. Just don't know it yet. I don't like shooting in my belly it

burns. I don't feel that using this small a needle is IM but my legs are lean.

Phil

Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> wrote:

I use a 23 gauge 3 ml syringe and inject in both thighs and butt. You do get

some minor bleeding with this size but applying a little pressure and it will

stop. Others have used smaller diameter needles with success but be prepared to

inject longer due to the thickness of the oil medium. I think Phil has been

using a 27 guage needle lately with success shooting a smaller dose more

frequently in the thigh.

Arkansas

philhow3

wrote:

I ha ve just switched from 7.5g testim/day to test cyp injections.

After reading this site and Dr. 's, will be doing .5cc or

100ml/week from a 200mg/ml vial. Thanks to Philip and others, I told

the endo and my GP what dosage should be used and frequency should be

used. After being disgusted with endo, went back to my GP and he ok'd

the cyp. Endo said after blood test and MRI, continue treatment and

call me in 6 months. Sorry for the rambling, ayway, I will be injecting

into my butt, had bad experiences years ago when injecting in my thigh.

Can I use a 27 guage or 25g syringe 1 1/2. I have not ordered any

syringes yet, hopefully I will be able to stick myself. Thanks for a

great site.

[Guest guest]

I was doing a 150 mg shot of Deop T 200mg/ml once a week using a 27g 1ml x 1/2 "

lg. need and it worked dam good in my leg. You only need to draw .5mls into

the needle and it is a small shot in the Thy. I was doing 25g 3ml x 1 " lg.

needle and my test going to the 27g are the same. So if you ask me go with the

27g if your legs are not lean like mine get the 5/8 " lg needle. It takes about

one min. to get the T out of the vile I pull the plunger down all the way. It

is not a big deal to wait to pull the T out.

Phil

philhow3 <philhow1@...> wrote:

I ha ve just switched from 7.5g testim/day to test cyp injections.

After reading this site and Dr. 's, will be doing .5cc or

100ml/week from a 200mg/ml vial. Thanks to Philip and others, I told

the endo and my GP what dosage should be used and frequency should be

used. After being disgusted with endo, went back to my GP and he ok'd

the cyp. Endo said after blood test and MRI, continue treatment and

call me in 6 months. Sorry for the rambling, ayway, I will be injecting

into my butt, had bad experiences years ago when injecting in my thigh.

Can I use a 27 guage or 25g syringe 1 1/2. I have not ordered any

syringes yet, hopefully I will be able to stick myself. Thanks for a

great site.

[Guest guest]

>

> I ha ve just switched from 7.5g testim/day to test cyp injections.

> After reading this site and Dr. 's, will be doing .5cc or

> 100ml/week from a 200mg/ml vial. Thanks to Philip and others, I told

> the endo and my GP what dosage should be used and frequency should be

> used. After being disgusted with endo, went back to my GP and he ok'd

> the cyp. Endo said after blood test and MRI, continue treatment and

> call me in 6 months. Sorry for the rambling, ayway, I will be

injecting

> into my butt, had bad experiences years ago when injecting in my

thigh.

> Can I use a 27 guage or 25g syringe 1 1/2. I have not ordered any

> syringes yet, hopefully I will be able to stick myself. Thanks for a

> great site.

>

I use a 25G needle when I inject (in the thigh.) I've read somewhere

sometime in the past that you shouldn't be in a hurry to inject too

fast. Something about " giving the muscle fibers a chance to unfold " and

accept the oil. Using a smaller gauge like a 25 seems to take care of

that automatically as the oil will only move so fast anyway (unless you

really press hard on the plunger.) At least it does work for me.

Rich

[Guest guest]

Phil,

You must be using one of those tuberculin syringes with permanently

attached needles. There is indeed a better way and it took me a

bit of web searching and inquiring from pharmacists. Like you,

I inject 3 times a week using a 1 ml syringe with interchangeable

needles. I guess you already know the advantage of using a larger

gauge needle to draw and a fresh undullled needle to inject. I

use BD-309628 Luer-Loc (screw in type) syringe with BD-305175 20G 1 "

needle to draw and inject with BD-305122 25G 5/8 " needle.

See http://tinyurl.com/nqnsk (use the magnify icon to enlarge and

drag into the lower blue panel).

I inject in the vastus lateralis of the thigh and 5/8 is just ideal

for me since my legs are skinny. I inject all the way to the hilt

and, with the resulting dimple, I must be reaching deep into the

muscle up to about 3/4 to 7/8 " .

I get my syringes/needles from Costco and I buy the by the box of

100s. It is cheaper that way and less bothersome for the pharmacists

as they don't have to break the box, repack and calculate price by

piece. Hope this helps. Email me if you have any questions.

Taddeo

> I ha ve just switched from 7.5g testim/day to test cyp injections.

> After reading this site and Dr. 's, will be doing .5cc or

> 100ml/week from a 200mg/ml vial. Thanks to Philip and others, I told

> the endo and my GP what dosage should be used and frequency should be

> used. After being disgusted with endo, went back to my GP and he ok'd

> the cyp. Endo said after blood test and MRI, continue treatment and

> call me in 6 months. Sorry for the rambling, ayway, I will be injecting

> into my butt, had bad experiences years ago when injecting in my thigh.

> Can I use a 27 guage or 25g syringe 1 1/2. I have not ordered any

> syringes yet, hopefully I will be able to stick myself. Thanks for a

> great site.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Phil and folks,

Sunday night and I'm a little sleepy. Sorry I have to correct myself.

It's not 3 times a week but every three days. Twenty mg or 1/10 or

..10 of a cc to be more precise.

Taddeo

> > I ha ve just switched from 7.5g testim/day to test cyp injections.

> > After reading this site and Dr. 's, will be doing .5cc or

> > 100ml/week from a 200mg/ml vial. Thanks to Philip and others, I told

> > the endo and my GP what dosage should be used and frequency should be

> > used. After being disgusted with endo, went back to my GP and he ok'd

> > the cyp. Endo said after blood test and MRI, continue treatment and

> > call me in 6 months. Sorry for the rambling, ayway, I will be

injecting

> > into my butt, had bad experiences years ago when injecting in my

thigh.

> > Can I use a 27 guage or 25g syringe 1 1/2. I have not ordered any

> > syringes yet, hopefully I will be able to stick myself. Thanks for a

> > great site.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hello gentlemen. I just started taking Delatestryl

200mg INJ. and my shots are every three weeks. I'm

confused in how yours is every three days. I thought

it was the same three weeks for every male.

Mr Phil, I thought you got your HCG INJ. from Dr .

I was thinking about getting on a health plan for HCG

separate from my current plan. My doctor keeps telling

me, HCG won't stimulate the testes thus, stop asking

kid. And it makes me uncomfortable when I continue to

bring it up and continue to get shot down.

I just took my first shot on the 10th. and I don't

feel the emotional situations, I had prior. I don't

feel that much engery and due to having a small penis,

I don't feel that much libido. I thought I would feel

a shot of engery and my other difficulties would

defunct.

I go back for my next shot on the 31, so I'll see.....

--- Taddeo Tatsulok <taddeo_t@...> wrote:

> Phil and folks,

>

> Sunday night and I'm a little sleepy. Sorry I have

> to correct myself.

> It's not 3 times a week but every three days.

> Twenty mg or 1/10 or

> .10 of a cc to be more precise.

>

> Taddeo

>

>

> > > I ha ve just switched from 7.5g testim/day to

> test cyp injections.

> > > After reading this site and Dr. 's, will be

> doing .5cc or

> > > 100ml/week from a 200mg/ml vial. Thanks to

> Philip and others, I told

> > > the endo and my GP what dosage should be used

> and frequency should be

> > > used. After being disgusted with endo, went back

> to my GP and he ok'd

> > > the cyp. Endo said after blood test and MRI,

> continue treatment and

> > > call me in 6 months. Sorry for the rambling,

> ayway, I will be

> injecting

> > > into my butt, had bad experiences years ago when

> injecting in my

> thigh.

> > > Can I use a 27 guage or 25g syringe 1 1/2. I

> have not ordered any

> > > syringes yet, hopefully I will be able to stick

> myself. Thanks for a

> > > great site.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

If your taking about me I use a 27g 1ml x 1/2 " lg. needle to do both my T and

HCG shots in my Thy.

Phil

Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote:

I also use a 23 guage 3 ml syringe but only inject in thy as I can see better

whether I hit a vein or not. Phil just said he hadn't heard of a 27 guage

syringe

yesterday.

Roy

Dan Meatheany wrote:

I use a 23 gauge 3 ml syringe and inject in both thighs and butt. You do get

some minor bleeding with this size but applying a little pressure and it will

stop. Others have used smaller diameter needles with success but be prepared to

inject longer due to the thickness of the oil medium. I think Phil has been

using a 27 guage needle lately with success shooting a smaller dose more

frequently in the thigh.

Arkansas

philhow3

wrote:

I ha ve just switched from 7.5g testim/day to test cyp injections.

After reading this site and Dr. 's, will be doing .5cc or

100ml/week from a 200mg/ml vial. Thanks to Philip and others, I told

the endo and my GP what dosage should be used and frequency should be

used. After being disgusted with endo, went back to my GP and he ok'd

the cyp. Endo said after blood test and MRI, continue treatment and

call me in 6 months. Sorry for the rambling, ayway, I will be injecting

into my butt, had bad experiences years ago when injecting in my thigh.

Can I use a 27 guage or 25g syringe 1 1/2. I have not ordered any

syringes yet, hopefully I will be able to stick myself. Thanks for a

great site.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the heads up but my needles come free with my T from MedcoHeath they

send me BD 1ml 27g1/2 PewsiaionGlide needles Order No.309623. The needle is

press fit on the end so I need to be sure it is seated good before drawing out

the T. It only take less then a minute to pull out the t from the vile. I use

200mg/ml Depo T so to do a 62mg shot I only need to pull out .32 mls.

Phil

Taddeo Tatsulok <taddeo_t@...> wrote:

Phil,

You must be using one of those tuberculin syringes with permanently

attached needles. There is indeed a better way and it took me a

bit of web searching and inquiring from pharmacists. Like you,

I inject 3 times a week using a 1 ml syringe with interchangeable

needles. I guess you already know the advantage of using a larger

gauge needle to draw and a fresh undullled needle to inject. I

use BD-309628 Luer-Loc (screw in type) syringe with BD-305175 20G 1 "

needle to draw and inject with BD-305122 25G 5/8 " needle.

See http://tinyurl.com/nqnsk (use the magnify icon to enlarge and

drag into the lower blue panel).

I inject in the vastus lateralis of the thigh and 5/8 is just ideal

for me since my legs are skinny. I inject all the way to the hilt

and, with the resulting dimple, I must be reaching deep into the

muscle up to about 3/4 to 7/8 " .

I get my syringes/needles from Costco and I buy the by the box of

100s. It is cheaper that way and less bothersome for the pharmacists

as they don't have to break the box, repack and calculate price by

piece. Hope this helps. Email me if you have any questions.

Taddeo

> I ha ve just switched from 7.5g testim/day to test cyp injections.

> After reading this site and Dr. 's, will be doing .5cc or

> 100ml/week from a 200mg/ml vial. Thanks to Philip and others, I told

> the endo and my GP what dosage should be used and frequency should be

> used. After being disgusted with endo, went back to my GP and he ok'd

> the cyp. Endo said after blood test and MRI, continue treatment and

> call me in 6 months. Sorry for the rambling, ayway, I will be injecting

> into my butt, had bad experiences years ago when injecting in my thigh.

> Can I use a 27 guage or 25g syringe 1 1/2. I have not ordered any

> syringes yet, hopefully I will be able to stick myself. Thanks for a

> great site.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Elliot go to www.allthingsmale.com and read Dr. 's TRT: A Recipe for Success

and his HCG Update. Print this and this link and show it to your Dr.

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/90/5/2595

Also show this link to your Dr. it is the AACE Guildlines and on paget 11 it

says to do shots in a lower dose every 7 to 10 days. You doing the shots the

way your Dr. is tell ing you will put you on a roller coaster ride up after the

shot for a few days the down low until your next shot.

http://www.aace.com/pub/pdf/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf

If you can't get your Dr. on board with the latest and best Treatment then you

need to find a better Dr. what your Dr. is saying and doing tells me he is not

up on TRT.

Phil

ELLIOT BAKER <elliotbkr@...> wrote:

Hello gentlemen. I just started taking Delatestryl

200mg INJ. and my shots are every three weeks. I'm

confused in how yours is every three days. I thought

it was the same three weeks for every male.

Mr Phil, I thought you got your HCG INJ. from Dr .

I was thinking about getting on a health plan for HCG

separate from my current plan. My doctor keeps telling

me, HCG won't stimulate the testes thus, stop asking

kid. And it makes me uncomfortable when I continue to

bring it up and continue to get shot down.

I just took my first shot on the 10th. and I don't

feel the emotional situations, I had prior. I don't

feel that much engery and due to having a small penis,

I don't feel that much libido. I thought I would feel

a shot of engery and my other difficulties would

defunct.

I go back for my next shot on the 31, so I'll see.....

--- Taddeo Tatsulok wrote:

> Phil and folks,

>

> Sunday night and I'm a little sleepy. Sorry I have

> to correct myself.

> It's not 3 times a week but every three days.

> Twenty mg or 1/10 or

> .10 of a cc to be more precise.

>

> Taddeo

>

>

> > > I ha ve just switched from 7.5g testim/day to

> test cyp injections.

> > > After reading this site and Dr. 's, will be

> doing .5cc or

> > > 100ml/week from a 200mg/ml vial. Thanks to

> Philip and others, I told

> > > the endo and my GP what dosage should be used

> and frequency should be

> > > used. After being disgusted with endo, went back

> to my GP and he ok'd

> > > the cyp. Endo said after blood test and MRI,

> continue treatment and

> > > call me in 6 months. Sorry for the rambling,

> ayway, I will be

> injecting

> > > into my butt, had bad experiences years ago when

> injecting in my

> thigh.

> > > Can I use a 27 guage or 25g syringe 1 1/2. I

> have not ordered any

> > > syringes yet, hopefully I will be able to stick

> myself. Thanks for a

> > > great site.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Elliot,

There used to be a time when the norm for T cypionate/enanthate

dosage for hypogonadism was anywhere from 100mg to 200 mg every

14 days. The reason for such long period in between dosage is to

prevent testicular shrinkage. However, endos discovered that HCG

could take care of problem and weekly injections became the norm.

Still this did not prevent the roller coaster effect of T benefit

/ E2 side effects given its half life.

See http://www.medibolics.com/freq2.htm

I think the every third day frequency is the best you can do

considering the 200mg weight per mililiter of the oil based T-cypio /

T-enanthate vis-a-vis the microdosing you can do with it. If only

there's a way of diluting and injecting the thing subcutaneously...

Taddeo

> > >

> > > Phil,

> > >

> > > You must be using one of those tuberculin syringes

> > with permanently

> > > attached needles. There is indeed a better way

> > and it took me a

> > > bit of web searching and inquiring from

> > pharmacists. Like you,

> > > I inject 3 times a week using a 1 ml syringe with

> > interchangeable

> > > needles. I guess you already know the advantage

> > of using a larger

> > > gauge needle to draw and a fresh undullled needle

> > to inject. I

> > > use BD-309628 Luer-Loc (screw in type) syringe

> > with BD-305175 20G 1 "

> > > needle to draw and inject with BD-305122 25G 5/8 "

> > needle.

> > >

> > > See http://tinyurl.com/nqnsk (use the magnify

> > icon to enlarge and

> > > drag into the lower blue panel).

> > >

> > >

> > > I inject in the vastus lateralis of the thigh and

> > 5/8 is just ideal

> > > for me since my legs are skinny. I inject all the

> > way to the hilt

> > > and, with the resulting dimple, I must be reaching

> > deep into the

> > > muscle up to about 3/4 to 7/8 " .

> > >

> > > I get my syringes/needles from Costco and I buy

> > the by the box of

> > > 100s. It is cheaper that way and less bothersome

> > for the pharmacists

> > > as they don't have to break the box, repack and

> > calculate price by

> > > piece. Hope this helps. Email me if you have any

> > questions.

> > >

> > > Taddeo

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

We meaning some of the guys started doing T shots every 3 days because we read a

post from on of Dr. Shippen's " Total Testosterone Syndrome " was doing them subQ

every 3 days and it was keeping his E2 down. My Dr. said OK to this with the 27

g needle but would not let me do my shots subQ. I have talked to guys that did

there T shots subQ and had no problems with E2. I am working on my Dr. to let

me try this.

Phil

Taddeo Tatsulok <taddeo_t@...> wrote:

Elliot,

There used to be a time when the norm for T cypionate/enanthate

dosage for hypogonadism was anywhere from 100mg to 200 mg every

14 days. The reason for such long period in between dosage is to

prevent testicular shrinkage. However, endos discovered that HCG

could take care of problem and weekly injections became the norm.

Still this did not prevent the roller coaster effect of T benefit

/ E2 side effects given its half life.

See http://www.medibolics.com/freq2.htm

I think the every third day frequency is the best you can do

considering the 200mg weight per mililiter of the oil based T-cypio /

T-enanthate vis-a-vis the microdosing you can do with it. If only

there's a way of diluting and injecting the thing subcutaneously...

Taddeo

> > >

> > > Phil,

> > >

> > > You must be using one of those tuberculin syringes

> > with permanently

> > > attached needles. There is indeed a better way

> > and it took me a

> > > bit of web searching and inquiring from

> > pharmacists. Like you,

> > > I inject 3 times a week using a 1 ml syringe with

> > interchangeable

> > > needles. I guess you already know the advantage

> > of using a larger

> > > gauge needle to draw and a fresh undullled needle

> > to inject. I

> > > use BD-309628 Luer-Loc (screw in type) syringe

> > with BD-305175 20G 1 "

> > > needle to draw and inject with BD-305122 25G 5/8 "

> > needle.

> > >

> > > See http://tinyurl.com/nqnsk (use the magnify

> > icon to enlarge and

> > > drag into the lower blue panel).

> > >

> > >

> > > I inject in the vastus lateralis of the thigh and

> > 5/8 is just ideal

> > > for me since my legs are skinny. I inject all the

> > way to the hilt

> > > and, with the resulting dimple, I must be reaching

> > deep into the

> > > muscle up to about 3/4 to 7/8 " .

> > >

> > > I get my syringes/needles from Costco and I buy

> > the by the box of

> > > 100s. It is cheaper that way and less bothersome

> > for the pharmacists

> > > as they don't have to break the box, repack and

> > calculate price by

> > > piece. Hope this helps. Email me if you have any

> > questions.

> > >

> > > Taddeo

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Phil,

You are using a BD Tuberculin Syringe with Detachable Needle, Slip

Tip. For a while I used the 309626 equivalent with 25G 5/8

needle (see bottom third column http://tinyurl.com/nqnsk ). But I

find the Luer-Lok worth the price of $35.90/100 that I paid for at

Costco. Perhaps you can ask your provider to supply you the 309624

which comes in with 21G 1 for ease of drawing and buy the needle of

your choice from the 305XXX series (second to the last column of the

URL) which will all fit that slip tip syringe. It doesn't cost that

much. I paid $9.90/100 box at Costco. Most important is that you'll

be injecting with a fresh undulled needle. I wish I could do the same

(change needles) with the Insulin syringes that I use everyday to

shoot myself with HGH.

Taddeo

> > I ha ve just switched from 7.5g testim/day to test cyp injections.

> > After reading this site and Dr. 's, will be doing .5cc or

> > 100ml/week from a 200mg/ml vial. Thanks to Philip and others, I told

> > the endo and my GP what dosage should be used and frequency should be

> > used. After being disgusted with endo, went back to my GP and he ok'd

> > the cyp. Endo said after blood test and MRI, continue treatment and

> > call me in 6 months. Sorry for the rambling, ayway, I will be

injecting

> > into my butt, had bad experiences years ago when injecting in my

thigh.

> > Can I use a 27 guage or 25g syringe 1 1/2. I have not ordered any

> > syringes yet, hopefully I will be able to stick myself. Thanks for a

> > great site.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Try pulling out your T with your HCG needle and do one shot. I pull the plunger

all the way down and hold it and you will start to see the oil come in it is

slow but not that slow.

Phil

Taddeo Tatsulok <taddeo_t@...> wrote:

Phil,

You are using a BD Tuberculin Syringe with Detachable Needle, Slip

Tip. For a while I used the 309626 equivalent with 25G 5/8

needle (see bottom third column http://tinyurl.com/nqnsk ). But I

find the Luer-Lok worth the price of $35.90/100 that I paid for at

Costco. Perhaps you can ask your provider to supply you the 309624

which comes in with 21G 1 for ease of drawing and buy the needle of

your choice from the 305XXX series (second to the last column of the

URL) which will all fit that slip tip syringe. It doesn't cost that

much. I paid $9.90/100 box at Costco. Most important is that you'll

be injecting with a fresh undulled needle. I wish I could do the same

(change needles) with the Insulin syringes that I use everyday to

shoot myself with HGH.

Taddeo

> > I ha ve just switched from 7.5g testim/day to test cyp injections.

> > After reading this site and Dr. 's, will be doing .5cc or

> > 100ml/week from a 200mg/ml vial. Thanks to Philip and others, I told

> > the endo and my GP what dosage should be used and frequency should be

> > used. After being disgusted with endo, went back to my GP and he ok'd

> > the cyp. Endo said after blood test and MRI, continue treatment and

> > call me in 6 months. Sorry for the rambling, ayway, I will be

injecting

> > into my butt, had bad experiences years ago when injecting in my

thigh.

> > Can I use a 27 guage or 25g syringe 1 1/2. I have not ordered any

> > syringes yet, hopefully I will be able to stick myself. Thanks for a

> > great site.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

The higher the gauge, the shorter the needle needs to be, or it will bend

(possibly break?). Even on a very short insulin needle 29g 1/2 " I think it

was, I managed to bend the needle just going through the stopper in the

vial. Glad I noticed, 'cause that would have hurt!

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of brad999us

Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 7:05 PM

Subject: Re: test cypionate syringe size

>

> I ha ve just switched from 7.5g testim/day to test cyp injections.

> After reading this site and Dr. 's, will be doing .5cc or

> 100ml/week from a 200mg/ml vial. Thanks to Philip and others, I told

> the endo and my GP what dosage should be used and frequency should be

> used. After being disgusted with endo, went back to my GP and he ok'd

> the cyp. Endo said after blood test and MRI, continue treatment and

> call me in 6 months. Sorry for the rambling, ayway, I will be injecting

> into my butt, had bad experiences years ago when injecting in my thigh.

> Can I use a 27 guage or 25g syringe 1 1/2. I have not ordered any

> syringes yet, hopefully I will be able to stick myself. Thanks for a

> great site.

>

It will take longer to push the oil thru smaller guage needles. I use

a 23 guage 1 1/2. I haven't seen a 27 guage 1 1/2 before.

[Guest guest]

Phil do you happen to have that link handy on Dr. Shippen's " Total Testosterone

Syndrome. " I thought I had it and read it but can't locate it.

Thanks,

Roy

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

We meaning some of the guys started doing T shots every 3 days because we read

a post from on of Dr. Shippen's " Total Testosterone Syndrome " was doing them

subQ every 3 days and it was keeping his E2 down. My Dr. said OK to this with

the 27 g needle but would not let me do my shots subQ. I have talked to guys

that did there T shots subQ and had no problems with E2. I am working on my Dr.

to let me try this.

Phil

Taddeo Tatsulok <taddeo_t@...> wrote:

Elliot,

There used to be a time when the norm for T cypionate/enanthate

dosage for hypogonadism was anywhere from 100mg to 200 mg every

14 days. The reason for such long period in between dosage is to

prevent testicular shrinkage. However, endos discovered that HCG

could take care of problem and weekly injections became the norm.

Still this did not prevent the roller coaster effect of T benefit

/ E2 side effects given its half life.

See http://www.medibolics.com/freq2.htm

I think the every third day frequency is the best you can do

considering the 200mg weight per mililiter of the oil based T-cypio /

T-enanthate vis-a-vis the microdosing you can do with it. If only

there's a way of diluting and injecting the thing subcutaneously...

Taddeo

> > >

> > > Phil,

> > >

> > > You must be using one of those tuberculin syringes

> > with permanently

> > > attached needles. There is indeed a better way

> > and it took me a

> > > bit of web searching and inquiring from

> > pharmacists. Like you,

> > > I inject 3 times a week using a 1 ml syringe with

> > interchangeable

> > > needles. I guess you already know the advantage

> > of using a larger

> > > gauge needle to draw and a fresh undullled needle

> > to inject. I

> > > use BD-309628 Luer-Loc (screw in type) syringe

> > with BD-305175 20G 1 "

> > > needle to draw and inject with BD-305122 25G 5/8 "

> > needle.

> > >

> > > See http://tinyurl.com/nqnsk (use the magnify

> > icon to enlarge and

> > > drag into the lower blue panel).

> > >

> > >

> > > I inject in the vastus lateralis of the thigh and

> > 5/8 is just ideal

> > > for me since my legs are skinny. I inject all the

> > way to the hilt

> > > and, with the resulting dimple, I must be reaching

> > deep into the

> > > muscle up to about 3/4 to 7/8 " .

> > >

> > > I get my syringes/needles from Costco and I buy

> > the by the box of

> > > 100s. It is cheaper that way and less bothersome

> > for the pharmacists

> > > as they don't have to break the box, repack and

> > calculate price by

> > > piece. Hope this helps. Email me if you have any

> > questions.

> > >

> > > Taddeo

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

It's available on Amazon.com

> > > >

> > > > Phil,

> > > >

> > > > You must be using one of those tuberculin syringes

> > > with permanently

> > > > attached needles. There is indeed a better way

> > > and it took me a

> > > > bit of web searching and inquiring from

> > > pharmacists. Like you,

> > > > I inject 3 times a week using a 1 ml syringe with

> > > interchangeable

> > > > needles. I guess you already know the advantage

> > > of using a larger

> > > > gauge needle to draw and a fresh undullled needle

> > > to inject. I

> > > > use BD-309628 Luer-Loc (screw in type) syringe

> > > with BD-305175 20G 1 "

> > > > needle to draw and inject with BD-305122 25G 5/8 "

> > > needle.

> > > >

> > > > See http://tinyurl.com/nqnsk (use the magnify

> > > icon to enlarge and

> > > > drag into the lower blue panel).

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I inject in the vastus lateralis of the thigh and

> > > 5/8 is just ideal

> > > > for me since my legs are skinny. I inject all the

> > > way to the hilt

> > > > and, with the resulting dimple, I must be reaching

> > > deep into the

> > > > muscle up to about 3/4 to 7/8 " .

> > > >

> > > > I get my syringes/needles from Costco and I buy

> > > the by the box of

> > > > 100s. It is cheaper that way and less bothersome

> > > for the pharmacists

> > > > as they don't have to break the box, repack and

> > > calculate price by

> > > > piece. Hope this helps. Email me if you have any

> > > questions.

> > > >

> > > > Taddeo

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That link is dead all you can do now is buy the book.

Phil

Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote:

Phil do you happen to have that link handy on Dr. Shippen's " Total

Testosterone

Syndrome. " I thought I had it and read it but can't locate it.

Thanks,

Roy

philip georgian

wrote:

We meaning some of the guys started doing T shots every 3 days because we read a

post from on of Dr. Shippen's " Total Testosterone Syndrome " was doing them subQ

every 3 days and it was keeping his E2 down. My Dr. said OK to this with the 27

g needle but would not let me do my shots subQ. I have talked to guys that did

there T shots subQ and had no problems with E2. I am working on my Dr. to let me

try this.

Phil

Taddeo Tatsulok wrote:

Elliot,

There used to be a time when the norm for T cypionate/enanthate

dosage for hypogonadism was anywhere from 100mg to 200 mg every

14 days. The reason for such long period in between dosage is to

prevent testicular shrinkage. However, endos discovered that HCG

could take care of problem and weekly injections became the norm.

Still this did not prevent the roller coaster effect of T benefit

/ E2 side effects given its half life.

See http://www.medibolics.com/freq2.htm

I think the every third day frequency is the best you can do

considering the 200mg weight per mililiter of the oil based T-cypio /

T-enanthate vis-a-vis the microdosing you can do with it. If only

there's a way of diluting and injecting the thing subcutaneously...

Taddeo

> > >

> > > Phil,

> > >

> > > You must be using one of those tuberculin syringes

> > with permanently

> > > attached needles. There is indeed a better way

> > and it took me a

> > > bit of web searching and inquiring from

> > pharmacists. Like you,

> > > I inject 3 times a week using a 1 ml syringe with

> > interchangeable

> > > needles. I guess you already know the advantage

> > of using a larger

> > > gauge needle to draw and a fresh undullled needle

> > to inject. I

> > > use BD-309628 Luer-Loc (screw in type) syringe

> > with BD-305175 20G 1 "

> > > needle to draw and inject with BD-305122 25G 5/8 "

> > needle.

> > >

> > > See http://tinyurl.com/nqnsk (use the magnify

> > icon to enlarge and

> > > drag into the lower blue panel).

> > >

> > >

> > > I inject in the vastus lateralis of the thigh and

> > 5/8 is just ideal

> > > for me since my legs are skinny. I inject all the

> > way to the hilt

> > > and, with the resulting dimple, I must be reaching

> > deep into the

> > > muscle up to about 3/4 to 7/8 " .

> > >

> > > I get my syringes/needles from Costco and I buy

> > the by the box of

> > > 100s. It is cheaper that way and less bothersome

> > for the pharmacists

> > > as they don't have to break the box, repack and

> > calculate price by

> > > piece. Hope this helps. Email me if you have any

> > questions.

> > >

> > > Taddeo

> > >

> > >

> > >