Re: Re: Proviron or Androgel with HCG ?

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DHT only causes balding in men who have the genes for balding.

--- paoloila <paoloila@...> wrote:

> Thanks to all and in particualr to sbryant511 exhaustive replay.

> Yes, here in Italy a physician could prescribe Proviron.

> I'd like to fully understand this matter because I guess it's

> preferable 3-4 tablets, instead of gel+injections, if in this way I

> improve sexual function and mood with less concern with E2.

>

> Though, is DHT diidrotestosterone ? If so, I guess Proviron can cause

>

> more easily balding....

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi ! For those who don't remember it I have secondary

> hypogonadism.

> > > Some guys I've met in a bodybuilding forum tell me that instead

> of

> > > androgel I could take Proviron tablets. Indeed it's easier to

> take

> > > tablets. They tell me proviron is even better to control E2.

> > > Both androgel and proviron have not good anabolic effects but I

> guess

> > > our purpose is to improve sex and mood, and not to become

> > > Schwarzenegger.

> > >

> > > Do you know the differences between androgel and proviron ? When

> is it

> > > better to use the former or the latter ? Many thanks.

> > >

> >

> > The first question is whether using HCG is going to give you

> sufficient levels of T. If you

> > are running a high dose of HCG, and your T levels are acceptable,

> then your biggest

> > concern would become your E2 levels.

> >

> > Proviron will not reduce your E2 levels. Proviron is a synthetic

> DHT like hormone, and

> > Proviron is not anabolic. However, is is very androgenic--

> approximately 10x's more so

> > than plain T. Androgel on the other hand is in fact anabolic as

> it is " bioidentical

> > testosterone " The only catch is that you have to boost your levels

>

> up pretty high and work

> > out to see significant anabolic affects from androgel.

> >

> > Proviron will help manage some of the effects of high E2, and there

>

> is some belief that

> > Proviron can help free up more T in the body by binding to SGHB and

>

> thus keeping more T

> > free and available for use.

> >

> > Proviron can help in a TRT program, and it has been used to treat

> ED due to the fact that

> > DHT is so much more androgenic than is plain T. However, Proviron

> has a relatively short

> > half life in the human body, so you are going to have to take

> several pills a day to keep any

> > significant average level of it in the body through out the day.

> >

> > If your T levels are where you want them (I prefer being 800-1000)

> from HCG alone, then I

> > would be concerned about aromatase activity. You will need a good

> lab test for E2 and

> > your doc should order the more sensitive lab test which measures

> levels under 30.

> >

> > Without knowing your actual total T, free T, E2 and T/E ratio, it

>

> is difficult to give you

> > meaningful and perhaps even useful advice. However, for managment

> of E2, I would

> > prefer arimidex or letrozole as these drugs are designed to do

> just that.

> >

> > FWIW--Many man claim that taking proviron with viagra is like

> turbocharged viagra

> >

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