Re: Re: Am I on track??? Rey.

[Guest guest]

Rey you need to read this Adrenal Thread at MESO

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/showthread.php?t=134240195

Dr. nco has some dam good into on Adrenal problems.

Phil

wetrey72 <wetrey72@...> wrote:

>

> Aloha my Friends and fellow Members!

>

> As most of you know by now, I'm 50 years old (51 in July), been in

> chronic pain for over 9 years and due to that have been on at least

> 8 different meds or more.

>

> I'm NOT one to give up easily when it comes to sexual health as I

> imagine most people feel the same. Without naming specific brands,

I

> currently take meds for these reasons: 1) Blood Pressure 2)

> Cholesterol 3)Depression 4)Severe Pain (Narcotics) 5) Muscle Spasms

> in my back (Narcotic) 6) Sleep (Narcotic) 7)Breakthrough Pain

> (Narcotic) 8) Low " T " (T/Depo-t injections) I have this " on hand "

> for when the following happens: 9) Water Retention-Lasix

>

> Soooooooo...

>

> After eating Celexa for Depression and Morphine in two different

> types and Valium 5 & 10mgs for spasms and sleep caused by Chronic

> Pain and Tenormin and Crestor/Lipitor for genetically caused high

> blood pressure and high cholesterol for varying lengths of time,

> I've also fought every sexual problem you can list. But mainly the

> first FOUR on the list of side effects for Celexa and trying Viagra

> and Cialis...I simply had had it with not being able to feel

> anything when I DID manage to have sex (I usually call it love

> making but in those cases it sure wasn't as all it was is " see if

> Wayne can get an erection of ANY kind and if so, get it in as fast

> as you can and hope Wayne lasts for more than 2 minutes before

> losing it " type of sex) so I had my doc test my " T " . It came up low

> at 84. I will get a copy of the lab results and tell you exactly if

> that was free or total. Either way.....my doc said he'd never

> seen " T " that low before.

>

> For a month now I have taken TRT through IM injections. 100mg every

> two weeks. I'm heading for my thrid injection next Friday.

>

> If you saw my answer to Sam's " puffiness " then you know that I'm

> feeling great and am a sexual dynamo right now. Honestly! I could

be

> happier and I'm cutting my Celexa out of my life slowly but surely.

>

> After such a short time, is this common to feel more " masculine "

> and/or " more like a man " and be able to be " on call " for love

making

> at any time because I pretty much WANT TO all the time and

yesterday

> afternoon prooved it!

>

> Will this 3 week+ burst of energy, mood lifting and libido

> skyrocketing stop suddenly like I am reading it does shortly after

> starting???

>

> The TRT is even helping with my Chronic Pain! And I thought NOTHING

> would ever help that. Am I imagining things? Am I dreaming? (If so,

> I DON'T wanna wake up!).

>

> If anyone could/would tell their story about the first 3 months of

> their TRT treatment and how it went, I'd REALLY be indebted to you

> and would be happy to " put you up with room and board " if you ever

> came over to Kauai. NOT! I wish I could, but I can't. (Yeah Kimo

> and Jack...get those hopes back down. LOL!)

>

> Seriously. My appreciation would be shown.

>

> Aloha and I hope to hear from many of you,

> Wayne

>

Well, I started TRT in October 2005. The first things I noticed was

the pain in my bones and joints went away. Next was my appetite, the

second week after my 250 mg injection, I was eating three large meals

a day. Before, I could skip breakfast, miss lunch and pick at

dinner. By week three, I started to experience the sexual side

effects. Lots of fun for me, because I went through my teen years

looking like a 10 year old with the libido of a 100 year old man.

After 2 months on, I was much stronger physically and had more

endurance. I lost fat and put on muscle. All of this without seeing

the inside of a gym. The positive effects have continued to this

day. I am fortunate in that I do not need to worry about the

testosterone converting to estrogen in excessive amounts. I am

taking it up a notch by treating my low adrenal function. For the

longest time, since childhood, I have lived with the symptoms of

adrenal insuficiency. Lucky you live Hawaii is not true if you are

heat intolerant.

BTW, my mother's side of the family is on the North Shore of Kauai.

It has been almost 20 years since I have gone back. The best parts

of my childhood were spent on my grandfather's farm. But plenty has

changed since he passed away. Not all of it for the better.

I am glad that TRT is benefiting you. Don't remember where I read

it, but a known effect of opiates is to suppress testosterone

levels. This just turns into a vicious cycle, because low

testosterone is bad for your joints, bones and muscles. I know I

would walk like an old man because my feet and back would be

painful. So you are not dreaming if the TRT is helping with your

pain. I am too young to feel old like that, I am only 33 years old.

The shame is, to doctors I am not hypogonadal. I am

depressed/hypochondriac and some Viagra and Prozac will fix what is

wrong with me. If you believe that BS, I have some land on

Kaho`olawe to sell you.

Alohaa

Rey

[Guest guest]

Sorry Rey,

All my life I have been bad on remembering names when I worked as an Engineer

it was a bitch. I had to deal with vendors or job shops that did design and

build for me. Now I am going nuts with names on the net 1cc is here had the

same problem. You guys will need to remember I mean well. I have read this

tread 3 times now and remember the Dr. nco's saying you could use

hydrocortisone cream. My wife is calling my Dr. to see what her blood test came

back at and to find out what we do now. She as you know has been on 2 grains of

Armour and if she takes more she goes hype. Yet her FT3 is not high. She feels

better taking Prednisone 1 mgs. a day now on it 10 days. I think it is time to

up the dose to 2 x's a day for 2 weeks then try upping the armour. We did all

the tests that were at the stopthethyroidmadness so we will see I don't think my

Dr. is up on Adrenal Fatigue and how it keeps Thyroid med for getting to the

cells when low.

Phil

wetrey72 <wetrey72@...> wrote:

>

> Rey you need to read this Adrenal Thread at MESO

> http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/showthread.php?t=134240195

> Dr. nco has some dam good into on Adrenal problems.

> Phil

>

>

One step ahead of you. I am love_en on MesoRx. I have contributed a

lot on that adrenal thread you mentioned. I am the one following Dr

's protocol and cannot find a doctor who will acknowledge that I am

hypogonadal and need help. Before embarking on TRT, I researched

's disease, because that is what I suspected in myself. I am

not 's, but my adrenal reserve is close to the baseline of a

healthy man. I took nco's advice about hydrocortisone cream. 2.5

grams of that is a replacement dose. I can tell it is working. Right

now it is 80+ and humid here in Hawaii. Without adrenal

supplementation, I would be too sick to work, eat or do much of

anything. Thanks Phil.

Rey

[Guest guest]

Phil if my memory serve me correctly you have to be careful of Prednsione. My

doctor put me on it for a cronic sore throat once, only he only prescribed it

for only

10 days. I don't remeber the dosage however. I do know that my

brother-in-Law

was on too much of it and it caused a vertibrae in his spine to collapse and

he

had back pain from then on. They couldn't treat it. It crushed one side of

the

vertabrae. So be careful on that stuff, it is dangerous. What another doctor

told

me was that is softens the bones.

Roy

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

Sorry Rey,

All my life I have been bad on remembering names when I worked as an Engineer

it was a bitch. I had to deal with vendors or job shops that did design and

build for me. Now I am going nuts with names on the net 1cc is here had the

same problem. You guys will need to remember I mean well. I have read this

tread 3 times now and remember the Dr. nco's saying you could use

hydrocortisone cream. My wife is calling my Dr. to see what her blood test came

back at and to find out what we do now. She as you know has been on 2 grains of

Armour and if she takes more she goes hype. Yet her FT3 is not high. She feels

better taking Prednisone 1 mgs. a day now on it 10 days. I think it is time to

up the dose to 2 x's a day for 2 weeks then try upping the armour. We did all

the tests that were at the stopthethyroidmadness so we will see I don't think my

Dr. is up on Adrenal Fatigue and how it keeps Thyroid med for getting to the

cells when low.

Phil

wetrey72 <wetrey72@...> wrote:

>

> Rey you need to read this Adrenal Thread at MESO

> http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/showthread.php?t=134240195

> Dr. nco has some dam good into on Adrenal problems.

> Phil

>

>

One step ahead of you. I am love_en on MesoRx. I have contributed a

lot on that adrenal thread you mentioned. I am the one following Dr

's protocol and cannot find a doctor who will acknowledge that I am

hypogonadal and need help. Before embarking on TRT, I researched

's disease, because that is what I suspected in myself. I am

not 's, but my adrenal reserve is close to the baseline of a

healthy man. I took nco's advice about hydrocortisone cream. 2.5

grams of that is a replacement dose. I can tell it is working. Right

now it is 80+ and humid here in Hawaii. Without adrenal

supplementation, I would be too sick to work, eat or do much of

anything. Thanks Phil.

Rey

[Guest guest]

From what I understand you can take up to 4 mgs a day and it is the same as your

body makes Cortisol. The body makes about 20 to 30 mgs. anything under this is

safe if one has Adernal Fatigue. My Wife has it and her Thyroglobulin AB or her

Antibodies are to high. With her Ferritin being very low what a mess no wonder

he Armour meds don't work on her thyroid. She is seeing a new Dr. that is up on

all of the on the 17th.

Phil

Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote:

Phil if my memory serve me correctly you have to be careful of Prednsione. My

doctor put me on it for a cronic sore throat once, only he only prescribed it

for only

10 days. I don't remeber the dosage however. I do know that my brother-in-Law

was on too much of it and it caused a vertibrae in his spine to collapse and he

had back pain from then on. They couldn't treat it. It crushed one side of the

vertabrae. So be careful on that stuff, it is dangerous. What another doctor

told

me was that is softens the bones.

Roy

philip georgian

wrote:

Sorry Rey,

All my life I have been bad on remembering names when I worked as an Engineer it

was a bitch. I had to deal with vendors or job shops that did design and build

for me. Now I am going nuts with names on the net 1cc is here had the same

problem. You guys will need to remember I mean well. I have read this tread 3

times now and remember the Dr. nco's saying you could use hydrocortisone

cream. My wife is calling my Dr. to see what her blood test came back at and to

find out what we do now. She as you know has been on 2 grains of Armour and if

she takes more she goes hype. Yet her FT3 is not high. She feels better taking

Prednisone 1 mgs. a day now on it 10 days. I think it is time to up the dose to

2 x's a day for 2 weeks then try upping the armour. We did all the tests that

were at the stopthethyroidmadness so we will see I don't think my Dr. is up on

Adrenal Fatigue and how it keeps Thyroid med for getting to the cells when low.

Phil

wetrey72 wrote:

>

> Rey you need to read this Adrenal Thread at MESO

> http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/showthread.php?t=134240195

> Dr. nco has some dam good into on Adrenal problems.

> Phil

>

>

One step ahead of you. I am love_en on MesoRx. I have contributed a

lot on that adrenal thread you mentioned. I am the one following Dr

's protocol and cannot find a doctor who will acknowledge that I am

hypogonadal and need help. Before embarking on TRT, I researched

's disease, because that is what I suspected in myself. I am

not 's, but my adrenal reserve is close to the baseline of a

healthy man. I took nco's advice about hydrocortisone cream. 2.5

grams of that is a replacement dose. I can tell it is working. Right

now it is 80+ and humid here in Hawaii. Without adrenal

supplementation, I would be too sick to work, eat or do much of

anything. Thanks Phil.

Rey