Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 My boys have shrunk a bit too. My MD says the only potential issue is fertility. Is this what you guys are hearing too? kaitain4 <kwisatz333@...> wrote: OK, after years of taking Androgel my balls are a lot smaller. I wanted some real-life advice from those who have worked on this problem themselves about what works to pump them back up. I know HCG does, if you can get your MD to prescribe it and want to take shots constantly. What else have you tried with success? I'm secondary, by the way. Regards, k4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Hi K4 been a long time. I started on HCG and I am primary just had an MRI because adding HCG to my shots doubled my T levels so my Testis and now my Dr. tells me other glands are making T. Yet doing this has drove up my E2 yet I need to take something for E2 no matter what TRT I am on. So for me doing this has me feeling the best I every felt in the 21 + yrs on TRT and my Testis are back to normal size. I have no problem doing the shots for that matter to keep E2 down I am doing my HCG shots everyday 100 IU's Using a small needle 27g x 1/2 lg. As for the E2 it is a small price to pay to feel this good. Phil kaitain4 <kwisatz333@...> wrote: OK, after years of taking Androgel my balls are a lot smaller. I wanted some real-life advice from those who have worked on this problem themselves about what works to pump them back up. I know HCG does, if you can get your MD to prescribe it and want to take shots constantly. What else have you tried with success? I'm secondary, by the way. Regards, k4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 if taking HCG is producing T for you why don't u discontinue ur other means of TRT? if HCG is making ur glands make ur own T than no need for the other stuff right?...that way ur levels may be in the 900 on its own and u can quit fighting with E2. just a thought. philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: Hi K4 been a long time. I started on HCG and I am primary just had an MRI because adding HCG to my shots doubled my T levels so my Testis and now my Dr. tells me other glands are making T. Yet doing this has drove up my E2 yet I need to take something for E2 no matter what TRT I am on. So for me doing this has me feeling the best I every felt in the 21 + yrs on TRT and my Testis are back to normal size. I have no problem doing the shots for that matter to keep E2 down I am doing my HCG shots everyday 100 IU's Using a small needle 27g x 1/2 lg. As for the E2 it is a small price to pay to feel this good. Phil kaitain4 <kwisatz333@...> wrote: OK, after years of taking Androgel my balls are a lot smaller. I wanted some real-life advice from those who have worked on this problem themselves about what works to pump them back up. I know HCG does, if you can get your MD to prescribe it and want to take shots constantly. What else have you tried with success? I'm secondary, by the way. Regards, k4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 No your Dr. is not up on the problem going on TRT your brain stops sending the LH and FSH message to your Testis and other LH receptors in your body ( including those we have yet to discoer and appreciate) so doing HCG keeps them stimulated. So your testis work to the best they can in primary men and getting the LH receptors working again make you feel much better gives me a feeling of well being. Phil " muscleintraining@... " <muscleintraining@...> wrote: My boys have shrunk a bit too. My MD says the only potential issue is fertility. Is this what you guys are hearing too? kaitain4 wrote: OK, after years of taking Androgel my balls are a lot smaller. I wanted some real-life advice from those who have worked on this problem themselves about what works to pump them back up. I know HCG does, if you can get your MD to prescribe it and want to take shots constantly. What else have you tried with success? I'm secondary, by the way. Regards, k4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 One step at a time never make big changes in TRT most men don't do well on just HCG. Phil Jack <rockin813@...> wrote: if taking HCG is producing T for you why don't u discontinue ur other means of TRT? if HCG is making ur glands make ur own T than no need for the other stuff right?...that way ur levels may be in the 900 on its own and u can quit fighting with E2. just a thought. philip georgian wrote: Hi K4 been a long time. I started on HCG and I am primary just had an MRI because adding HCG to my shots doubled my T levels so my Testis and now my Dr. tells me other glands are making T. Yet doing this has drove up my E2 yet I need to take something for E2 no matter what TRT I am on. So for me doing this has me feeling the best I every felt in the 21 + yrs on TRT and my Testis are back to normal size. I have no problem doing the shots for that matter to keep E2 down I am doing my HCG shots everyday 100 IU's Using a small needle 27g x 1/2 lg. As for the E2 it is a small price to pay to feel this good. Phil kaitain4 wrote: OK, after years of taking Androgel my balls are a lot smaller. I wanted some real-life advice from those who have worked on this problem themselves about what works to pump them back up. I know HCG does, if you can get your MD to prescribe it and want to take shots constantly. What else have you tried with success? I'm secondary, by the way. Regards, k4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Dr Crisler aka Dr discusses that in his recipe for success documents at www.allthingsmale.com He says that guys on HCG alone, while sporting normal blood levels, report that they just don't have the sense of well being that other forms of TRT give. He acknowledges the emotional importance of having your " boys " not shrink, so he recommends a combination of TRT/HCG for the best of both worlds. > Re: Bigger Balls > > if taking HCG is producing T for you why don't u >discontinue ur other means of TRT? if HCG is making ur glands >make ur own T than no need for the other stuff right?...that >way ur levels may be in the 900 on its own and u can quit >fighting with E2. just a thought. > >philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: Hi K4 been a >long time. I started on HCG and I am primary just had an MRI >because adding HCG to my shots doubled my T levels so my >Testis and now my Dr. tells me other glands are making T. Yet >doing this has drove up my E2 yet I need to take something for >E2 no matter what TRT I am on. So for me doing this has me >feeling the best I every felt in the 21 + yrs on TRT and my >Testis are back to normal size. I have no problem doing the >shots for that matter to keep E2 down I am doing my HCG shots >everyday 100 IU's Using a small needle 27g x 1/2 lg. As for >the E2 it is a small price to pay to feel this good. > Phil > >kaitain4 <kwisatz333@...> wrote: > OK, after years of taking Androgel my balls are a lot >smaller. I wanted some real-life advice from those who have >worked on this problem themselves about what works to pump >them back up. I know HCG does, if you can get your MD to >prescribe it and want to take shots constantly. What else have >you tried with success? I'm secondary, by the way. > >Regards, > >k4 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 OK, for me I just want BIG balls!! Or at least as big as they used to be! The fertility thing would be an issue if I were trying to start a family. I guess this is a self image thing. In a way, I feel a little rebellious about my balls shrinking. Having low T is an insult to masculinity anyway, so wanting bigger balls is sort of " revenge " on the situation! :-). Still looking for advice on something other than HCG... Thanks! K4 OK, after years of taking Androgel my balls are a lot smaller. I > wanted some real-life advice from those who have worked on this > problem themselves about what works to pump them back up. I know HCG > does, if you can get your MD to prescribe it and want to take shots > constantly. What else have you tried with success? I'm secondary, by > the way. > > Regards, > > k4 > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 I think it's pretty much implants or hcg. Brad OK, after years of taking > Androgel my balls are a lot smaller. I > > wanted some real-life advice from those who have worked on this > > problem themselves about what works to pump them back up. I know > HCG > > does, if you can get your MD to prescribe it and want to take > shots > > constantly. What else have you tried with success? I'm secondary, > by > > the way. > > > > Regards, > > > > k4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 I take yohimbe root extract and it makes my balls bigger. They used to be pebble sized and now they are aggie sized. I just wish I could get them to be low hangers without having to use a ball stretcher (OUCH!) but you know if they continue to grow maybe they'll get their on their own. S --------------------------------- Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we’ll bind it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 I read this article myself recently. Is there any downsides to taking HCG if you are secondary? I'm going to ask my new doc (when I finally find a new one) to put me on HCG as well. Would be nice to feel something down there again. Right now my balls are small, and dead. I'm pretty sure my insurance doesnt cover it, as its labeled a 'fertility' drug. How much roughly is it a month for a average dose? > > OK, after years of taking Androgel my balls are a lot smaller. I > wanted some real-life advice from those who have worked on this > problem themselves about what works to pump them back up. I know HCG > does, if you can get your MD to prescribe it and want to take shots > constantly. What else have you tried with success? I'm secondary, by > the way. > > Regards, > > k4 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 There will be fertility issues, if your on TRT from what I've read. However Dr. has stated before TRT does not make a man infertile and shouldn't be used as a contraceptive. Many of Dr. 's patients have been able regain their fertility by adding a small dosage of HCG to their daily TRT regime. OK, after years of taking Androgel my balls are a lot smaller. I > wanted some real-life advice from those who have worked on this > problem themselves about what works to pump them back up. I know HCG > does, if you can get your MD to prescribe it and want to take shots > constantly. What else have you tried with success? I'm secondary, by > the way. > > Regards, > > k4 > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 If your Dr. calls them and tells them it is for secondary hypogonadism they will pay for it. Also your can read this by Z he is secondary and only uses HCG his Dr. is Shippen the author of " The Testosterone Syndorme " a dam good book to read but dated. Here are the links. http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/showthread.php?t=134235700 & highlight=primer+hcg http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/showthread.php?t=134235701 & highlight=primer+hcg If you go to Wal-Mart you can get HCG with a script for $45 to $55. Phil escher_0072001 <no_reply > wrote: I read this article myself recently. Is there any downsides to taking HCG if you are secondary? I'm going to ask my new doc (when I finally find a new one) to put me on HCG as well. Would be nice to feel something down there again. Right now my balls are small, and dead. I'm pretty sure my insurance doesnt cover it, as its labeled a 'fertility' drug. How much roughly is it a month for a average dose? > > OK, after years of taking Androgel my balls are a lot smaller. I > wanted some real-life advice from those who have worked on this > problem themselves about what works to pump them back up. I know HCG > does, if you can get your MD to prescribe it and want to take shots > constantly. What else have you tried with success? I'm secondary, by > the way. > > Regards, > > k4 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 What brand do you take and what dose? I read somewhere that porn stars take something that pumps up their sperm production and makes their balls juicy. Ever heard of that? K4 > > I take yohimbe root extract and it makes my balls bigger. They used to be pebble sized and now they are aggie sized. I just wish I could get them to be low hangers without having to use a ball stretcher (OUCH!) but you know if they continue to grow maybe they'll get their on their own. > S > > > > --------------------------------- > Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover > Photo Books. You design it and we'll bind it! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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