Test Level and TRT

[Guest guest]

Why would you need supplemental Test with a natural level at 498? You

should be fine with DHT and E2 suppression according to the way I

read your post.

>

> Phil,

>

> Thanks for your kind response. I did a low-volume/high-frequency

> dosing (20 mg./every 3 days) TRT early this year and had to stop

due

> to unmanageable nip itching/swelling and night sweats. I have tried

> Indolplex/DIM, Calcium DaGlucarate, and Nolvadex but to no avail.

The

> scheme also raised my DHT to a whopping 991 pg/mL (range 36-573).

> Stopping the TRT altogether dropped my DHT to a tolerable level of

331

> but also brought down my total T from 706 to 498 which made me feel

> crappy as well.

>

> Four months later I had early symptoms of BHP and my PCP gave me

> Avodart. It is claimed to be more potent than Propecia in fighting

> elevated DHT. A few days after my first dose, I started to get

nipple

> itching and swelling. Somehow, one of Avodart's side effects is

> breast swelling. Does it also raise E2? I'm not sure but ¼ mg./wk

of

> Arimidex (which heretofore my doctors were adamant to prescribe)

took

> care of the nipple and night sweat problem. One thing I have noticed

> in my case is that an E2 reading of 28 is high enough to cause all

the

> symptoms of high estrogen whereas a reading of <20 makes the nasty

> sides disappear. Armed with Arimidex, I am eager to once more

resume

> my T-cyp injections. I am 67yo, 5'-6 " in height and weigh 140 lbs.

>

> Taddeo

[Guest guest]

Even that level is not fully adequate, take a look in

the files section and find the paper on the various

testosterone threshold levels.

While suppression of DHT maybe useful in BHP it is

not without a biological cost. BHP maybe the result

of excess estrogen and too little serum

25-(OH)-cholecalciferol (vitamin D3) rather than an excess

of DHT even if suppression of DHT " helps " . Most people

don't get enough of the latter at LEAST part of the

year. Further some prescription meds can raise

estrogen levels in males. Getting off of the proton

pump inhibitors i.e. Prilosec and increasing my

vitamin D3 intake to over 100 mcgs/4000 IU during the autumn and

winter and less during the spring and summer(note

this is still considered a radical view by many)

has SEEMED to improve the urine flow in me.

I think if my BPH gets to be a problem, I'll go with

laser treatment not med treatment if I can.

> >

> > Phil,

> >

> > Thanks for your kind response. I did a low-volume/high-frequency

> > dosing (20 mg./every 3 days) TRT early this year and had to stop

> due

> > to unmanageable nip itching/swelling and night sweats. I have

tried

> > Indolplex/DIM, Calcium DaGlucarate, and Nolvadex but to no

avail.

> The

> > scheme also raised my DHT to a whopping 991 pg/mL (range 36-

573).

> > Stopping the TRT altogether dropped my DHT to a tolerable level

of

> 331

> > but also brought down my total T from 706 to 498 which made me

feel

> > crappy as well.

> >

> > Four months later I had early symptoms of BHP and my PCP gave me

> > Avodart. It is claimed to be more potent than Propecia in fighting

> > elevated DHT. A few days after my first dose, I started to get

> nipple

> > itching and swelling. Somehow, one of Avodart's side effects is

> > breast swelling. Does it also raise E2? I'm not sure but ¼

mg./wk

> of

> > Arimidex (which heretofore my doctors were adamant to prescribe)

> took

> > care of the nipple and night sweat problem. One thing I have

noticed

> > in my case is that an E2 reading of 28 is high enough to cause

all

> the

> > symptoms of high estrogen whereas a reading of <20 makes the nasty

> > sides disappear. Armed with Arimidex, I am eager to once more

> resume

> > my T-cyp injections. I am 67yo, 5'-6 " in height and weigh 140

lbs.

> >

> > Taddeo

>