Guest guest Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Hi guys I just had a shot of reandon1000 known as nebidio in the states. How long does it take to start releasing into your system and how long does the pain in the butt from the shot take before it eases. Been on testogel and swapping to the reandon1000/nebidio. Anyone give me an insight into how it compares to guys who have used sustanon 250, implants and gels? orcman3000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Hi Orcman, I too recently switched from Androgel to Nebido. Have been trying to get other peoples experience from Nebido, but since it not yet approved in the US and most forums are US based there is not much out there. Happy to see you pop in here. Let´s compare notes. I have been on Androgel since Sep 2005, first 1 pack and now since a year 2 packs. My T levels rose smoothly from 9.7 nmol/l (277(ng/dl) to (in Sept 2006) 24.2 nmol/l (691 ng/dl). When tested beg of May 2007 however TT was down to 12 nmol/l (340 ng/dl), despite me using 2 packs of gel (2 x 50 mg gel). For some reason my skin did not absorb it the way is used to. I then, based on the recommendation from my Urologist, tried Nebido (first shot June 7th), and after a week decided to supplement with 1/2 pack of gel every day. Had my blood drawn today - June 21st - and will tell you the results when they come in. Never had any problem with excess E2, but the T/E2 ratio was sometimes skewed. SHBG fluctuates between 16 and 20 nmol/l, apparently just right. To complicate the matter I have a large prostate - 84 cc - 3 times normal, as well as an elevated PSA - 7.9. Had 2 biopsies, both negative, in 2004 and 2005. Had severe loss of libido, depression, ED and Ejac problems which now have improved. From the info I have, the CMax (maximum concentration) will be achieved within 1 week, and will then be at a more or less steady state (I believe it is more like a slope downwards). My urologist told me that a few of his patients supplemented the Nebido with Androgel/Testogel, which is what I a trying in order to obtain max effect, and to offset the diminishing effect over time with the shot. The Nebido will give you a nice base and the gel the T fluctuation that I think is important for other endocrine functions. > > Hi guys I just had a shot of reandon1000 known as nebidio in the > states. How long does it take to start releasing into your system and > how long does the pain in the butt from the shot take before it eases. > Been on testogel and swapping to the reandon1000/nebidio. > > Anyone give me an insight into how it compares to guys who have used > sustanon 250, implants and gels? > > orcman3000 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 You can find guys on Nebido at this link. http://www.andropause.org.uk/newforum/forum_frameset.htm I just hope your E2 Estradiol does not go way up adding in the gels. teedeebeey <no_reply > wrote: Hi Orcman, I too recently switched from Androgel to Nebido. Have been trying to get other peoples experience from Nebido, but since it not yet approved in the US and most forums are US based there is not much out there. Happy to see you pop in here. Let´s compare notes. I have been on Androgel since Sep 2005, first 1 pack and now since a year 2 packs. My T levels rose smoothly from 9.7 nmol/l (277(ng/dl) to (in Sept 2006) 24.2 nmol/l (691 ng/dl). When tested beg of May 2007 however TT was down to 12 nmol/l (340 ng/dl), despite me using 2 packs of gel (2 x 50 mg gel). For some reason my skin did not absorb it the way is used to. I then, based on the recommendation from my Urologist, tried Nebido (first shot June 7th), and after a week decided to supplement with 1/2 pack of gel every day. Had my blood drawn today - June 21st - and will tell you the results when they come in. Never had any problem with excess E2, but the T/E2 ratio was sometimes skewed. SHBG fluctuates between 16 and 20 nmol/l, apparently just right. To complicate the matter I have a large prostate - 84 cc - 3 times normal, as well as an elevated PSA - 7.9. Had 2 biopsies, both negative, in 2004 and 2005. Had severe loss of libido, depression, ED and Ejac problems which now have improved. From the info I have, the CMax (maximum concentration) will be achieved within 1 week, and will then be at a more or less steady state (I believe it is more like a slope downwards). My urologist told me that a few of his patients supplemented the Nebido with Androgel/Testogel, which is what I a trying in order to obtain max effect, and to offset the diminishing effect over time with the shot. The Nebido will give you a nice base and the gel the T fluctuation that I think is important for other endocrine functions. > > Hi guys I just had a shot of reandon1000 known as nebidio in the > states. How long does it take to start releasing into your system and > how long does the pain in the butt from the shot take before it eases. > Been on testogel and swapping to the reandon1000/nebidio. > > Anyone give me an insight into how it compares to guys who have used > sustanon 250, implants and gels? > > orcman3000 > Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. " Phil --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Hi teedeebeey, Thanks for your reply.A bit more history .My problems started after I had testicular cancer and a removal of a testicle and my remaining one just shriveled after radiation and no longer produced enough testosterone. I started susatan200 and followed by sustanon250mg just over 6 years ago with mixed results and lots of infamation that lasted 10 days around the injection site.next went onto implants. they worked well for me for 1.5 years but then my body seemed to reject them and had an infected and inflamed abdoman for more than 8 months. So next I tried testegel. It seemed really good . For the first year my levels were between 19nmol/l and 23nmol/l when tested . Everything seemed ok and then my skin seemed to not absorb the gel as it should anymore. The next few tests showed levels down to 8 nmol/l and I became exhausted all the time and depression,aching. I was using 2 X 50mg of testegel so my levels should have been much higher. So now I am trying the reandon1000/nebidio. I noted that you said you were supplementing the nebidio with the gel. I will discuss this with my endocrinolgist and if I have lows I will ask if I could try that too. > > > > Hi guys I just had a shot of reandon1000 known as nebidio in the > > states. How long does it take to start releasing into your system and > > how long does the pain in the butt from the shot take before it eases. > > Been on testogel and swapping to the reandon1000/nebidio. > > > > Anyone give me an insight into how it compares to guys who have used > > sustanon 250, implants and gels? > > > > orcman3000 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Thanks for the link Philip I was able to get on the forum and read posts from guys on Nebio/Reandon1000 > > > > Hi guys I just had a shot of reandon1000 known as nebidio in the > > states. How long does it take to start releasing into your system and > > how long does the pain in the butt from the shot take before it eases. > > Been on testogel and swapping to the reandon1000/nebidio. > > > > Anyone give me an insight into how it compares to guys who have used > > sustanon 250, implants and gels? > > > > orcman3000 > > > > > > > > > Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. " > Phil > > --------------------------------- > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Your welcome keep us posted on how your doing. orcman3001 <no_reply > wrote: Thanks for the link Philip I was able to get on the forum and read posts from guys on Nebio/Reandon1000 > > > > Hi guys I just had a shot of reandon1000 known as nebidio in the > > states. How long does it take to start releasing into your system and > > how long does the pain in the butt from the shot take before it eases. > > Been on testogel and swapping to the reandon1000/nebidio. > > > > Anyone give me an insight into how it compares to guys who have used > > sustanon 250, implants and gels? > > > > orcman3000 > > > > > > > > > Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. " > Phil > > --------------------------------- > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 > > > > Hi guys I just had a shot of reandon1000 known as nebidio in the > > states. How long does it take to start releasing into your system and > > how long does the pain in the butt from the shot take before it eases. > > Been on testogel and swapping to the reandon1000/nebidio. > > > > Anyone give me an insight into how it compares to guys who have used > > sustanon 250, implants and gels? > > > > orcman3000 > > > Hi Teedeebeey How are you going with the nebdio now ? I am in the pits at the moment. All my joints and muscles seem to be aching all the time and I am just so exhausted and all I want to do is lay down.Getting so depressed too. Have a feeling it is the medication . Did you suffer similar side-effects in the first few weeks when you went on Reandon100 / Nebidio ?? ORCMAN 3001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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