Re: ON MD's ( minor dieties?) and my test results

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You need to post the ranges for each test.

I feel best when my total Testosterone:Estradiol ratio is more than

30:1

>

> Hi all, I've been a long time reader, sometine contributer and

don't

> understand what is going on.

> I originally went to get HRT and was prescribed a 5% cream one gram

a

> day. This seemed to have good affect but the results seemingly

faded

> so after another even lower test result, I got a 7.5%. After a

while

> No morning wood and low energy -again so I went to a 10% cream and

> applied more when didn't seem to work. I have no problem with a

hard

> erection when motivated but No AM wood and low energy. I arranged a

> blood test and seemingly only got some of the results back.

> They say:

>

> free testosterone (blood) 7.13 H C NG/DL

> free T3 >1600 PG/ML

> Estradiol/blood 63.3 PG/ML

> FSH (blood) .2 MIU/ML

> Lh (blood) 0.1 mIU/ML

> my white blood cell count is also low

>

> Does this provide enough information to see where I'm at?

> Seems I need to cut my T in half for a start and eat zink (?)

> Many of you seem to be well up on this and probably answer this.

>

[Guest guest]

What's the range for estradiol on your test? It looks very high, and

that would explain your symptoms. Do you have much bodyfat? That's

where much of the conversion of Test. to Estrogen happens, and the more

androgel you put on, the more this is likely to happen.

Chris

--- <mikedalerogers@...> wrote:

> Hi all, I've been a long time reader, sometine contributer and don't

> understand what is going on.

> I originally went to get HRT and was prescribed a 5% cream one gram a

>

> day. This seemed to have good affect but the results seemingly faded

> so after another even lower test result, I got a 7.5%. After a while

> No morning wood and low energy -again so I went to a 10% cream and

> applied more when didn't seem to work. I have no problem with a hard

> erection when motivated but No AM wood and low energy. I arranged a

> blood test and seemingly only got some of the results back.

> They say:

>

> free testosterone (blood) 7.13 H C NG/DL

> free T3 >1600 PG/ML

> Estradiol/blood 63.3 PG/ML

> FSH (blood) .2 MIU/ML

> Lh (blood) 0.1 mIU/ML

> my white blood cell count is also low

>

> Does this provide enough information to see where I'm at?

> Seems I need to cut my T in half for a start and eat zink (?)

> Many of you seem to be well up on this and probably answer this.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

On Thu, 31 May 2007 06:14:07 -0000, you wrote:

> free T3 >1600 PG/ML

> Estradiol/blood 63.3 PG/ML

> FSH (blood) .2 MIU/ML

> Lh (blood) 0.1 mIU/ML

>my white blood cell count is also low

>

>Does this provide enough information to see where I'm at?

>Seems I need to cut my T in half for a start and eat zink (?)

>Many of you seem to be well up on this and probably answer this.

Your estradiol level is very high. You want it in the 20 to 30 range.

This will get you much better results for energy, mental clarity and

libido.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Does anyone know if HealthCheckUSA offers these tests of Estradiol, FSH, LH,

etc? Or someplace like it?

Also, is Estradiol the same as the E2 many refer to here?

Thanks,

Neil

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Subject: Re: ON MD's ( minor dieties?) and my test results

On Thu, 31 May 2007 06:14:07 -0000, you wrote:

> free T3 >1600 PG/ML

> Estradiol/blood 63.3 PG/ML

> FSH (blood) .2 MIU/ML

> Lh (blood) 0.1 mIU/ML

>my white blood cell count is also low

>

>Does this provide enough information to see where I'm at?

>Seems I need to cut my T in half for a start and eat zink (?)

>Many of you seem to be well up on this and probably answer this.

Your estradiol level is very high. You want it in the 20 to 30 range.

This will get you much better results for energy, mental clarity and

libido.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info!

I called the lab and they said that they called bound T free testerone (blood)

I had a test done a couple of months ago which showed my LH to be .1 mIU/ml

and my FSH(blood) to be .2 also low.

The only recommendation was to half my T.

Is equine estrogen like that in premarin also estradiol?

My lady friend uses it.

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In a message dated 6/1/2007 10:06:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

homebrewermsp@... writes:

Hi Chris;

Their range is: adult males 0--56 and I weigh 145 and am 5'9 " which means I

can still get rid of some surface fat If I want to be 'ripped'.

Thanks;

> What's the range for estradiol on your test? It looks very high, and

> that would explain your symptoms. Do you have much bodyfat? That's

> where much of the conversion of Test. to Estrogen happens, and the more

> androgel you put on, the more this is likely to happen.

>

> Chris

>

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[Guest guest]

On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 00:29:46 -0700, you wrote:

>

>Hi,

>

>Does anyone know if HealthCheckUSA offers these tests of Estradiol, FSH, LH,

>etc? Or someplace like it?

>

>Also, is Estradiol the same as the E2 many refer to here?

Yes. And you have to order a sensitive test. Saliva tests are

inaccurate and essentially useless. And the most common blood test is

not sensitive enough either as it was developed for women who's levels

can be 10X as high.

The test has to be sensitive to at least 20.

[Guest guest]

On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 15:48:51 EDT, you wrote:

>Thanks for the info!

>I called the lab and they said that they called bound T free testerone (blood)

> I had a test done a couple of months ago which showed my LH to be .1 mIU/ml

>and my FSH(blood) to be .2 also low.

>The only recommendation was to half my T.

>Is equine estrogen like that in premarin also estradiol?

>My lady friend uses it.

>cheers;

> </HTML>

LSH and FSH will be low after you start T. They are part of the

feedback loop. They signal the balls to make more testosterone. If

there's enough their levels drop away.

But they can also be low for other reasons that result then in less T

being produced. (Called secondary hypo-g - primary is when T is low

because the balls don't work themselves, despite getting the signal to

produce.

[Guest guest]

Hi Retro,

Man...I have searched every test on HealthCheckUSA and I simply can't find

ANYTHING that has the LH, FSH,etc. Got a link for those of us doing self

testing?

Thanks,

Neil

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Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 9:43 AM

Subject: Re: ON MD's ( minor dieties?) and my test results

On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 00:29:46 -0700, you wrote:

>

>Hi,

>

>Does anyone know if HealthCheckUSA offers these tests of Estradiol, FSH,

LH,

>etc? Or someplace like it?

>

>Also, is Estradiol the same as the E2 many refer to here?

Yes. And you have to order a sensitive test. Saliva tests are

inaccurate and essentially useless. And the most common blood test is

not sensitive enough either as it was developed for women who's levels

can be 10X as high.

The test has to be sensitive to at least 20.

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On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 19:40:50 -0700, you wrote:

>

>Hi Retro,

>

>Man...I have searched every test on HealthCheckUSA and I simply can't find

>ANYTHING that has the LH, FSH,etc. Got a link for those of us doing self

>testing?

>

>Thanks,

I haven't. Sorry. But aren't you already on Testosterone therapy? LH

and FSH will not tell you anything after you start taking T. Several

guys here have labs that will test E2 on self order, I believe.

Do you want self testing links or explanations of the tests and

ranges?