Re: Testosterone and Atrial Fib?

[Guest guest]

Deano,

Not to scare you but Deano, the heart thing? It really needs to be

treated. Please back off on the T some and get that level down. I

didn't see your ECG and no, I am not a cardiologist. I'm the one

people call when they develop chest pain...a long time Paramedic.

You may not need a blood thinner just yet but, you sure should be

taking an adult asa a day. Best follow the Doc's advise on this one

until the problem has been resolved. Afib's are well sustained....for

a while! Lots of folks walking around with the same thing treated and

not treated. The Doc's panic is because right now, you at risk for

throwing small clots, worsening rhythms, weaking your heart and vlave

damage. It is likely you will continue to need something to keep your

heart beating more effectively from now on and yes, too much T

ethanate for a long period of time may cuase your type of problem. It

might not be the cause either......67% of the population over the age

of 65 already have at least periods of Afib. It is common to see an

elevated CO2 level..that should fall in line when you get your heart

beck on track. Straighten out the T level and hopefully the heart

will follow. Good Luck and good health.

Vickie

In , " Deano " <DHerbert53@...> wrote:

>

> Hey Guys,

>

> I've been taking Test. Ethanate by injection 100 mg per week for

> years.

>

> I had my first check up in many months and my T levels were 1340,

> way, way high and my pulse is now irregular. They are normally

400 -

> 500 for me. My CO2 was high too, which is weird.

>

> Could T. be the culprit?

>

> The Dr. freaked out, did an echocardiogram which confirmed Atrial

> Fibrillation (which means that an external stimulus is confusing

the

> electrical pulses of the heart and the valves don't know when to

open

> and shut) and wants me on Coumadin and other stuff...not sure what

to

> do about that. I have no symptoms.

>

> Anyone else have a similar experience?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Deano in Cincinnati

> Dherbert53@...

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Deano when was your blood work taken if you did the shot and in 3 days did

the blood work your tests will be high. It's best to do blood work the day of

your next shot but do the blood work first. Testosterone is good for the heart

I don't feel this is the problem. Men do get thick blood on TRT and giving

blood helps this. Are you sure about your Pulse rate 400 to 500 or do you mean

40 to 50 bpm.

Deano <DHerbert53@...> wrote: Hey Guys,

I've been taking Test. Ethanate by injection 100 mg per week for

years.

I had my first check up in many months and my T levels were 1340,

way, way high and my pulse is now irregular. They are normally 400 -

500 for me. My CO2 was high too, which is weird.

Could T. be the culprit?

The Dr. freaked out, did an echocardiogram which confirmed Atrial

Fibrillation (which means that an external stimulus is confusing the

electrical pulses of the heart and the valves don't know when to open

and shut) and wants me on Coumadin and other stuff...not sure what to

do about that. I have no symptoms.

Anyone else have a similar experience?

Thanks,

Deano in Cincinnati

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[Guest guest]

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:23:19 -0000, you wrote:

>Hey Guys,

>

>I've been taking Test. Ethanate by injection 100 mg per week for

>years.

>

>I had my first check up in many months and my T levels were 1340,

>way, way high and my pulse is now irregular. They are normally 400 -

>500 for me.

We've seen several of these reports lately of people on injections

finding out their levels have jumped hugely. I'm beginning to wonder

if there's a batch of mislabeled T out there. (Made in CHina ;-> )?

[Guest guest]

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:23:19 -0000, you wrote:

>The Dr. freaked out, did an echocardiogram which confirmed Atrial

>Fibrillation (which means that an external stimulus is confusing the

>electrical pulses of the heart and the valves don't know when to open

>and shut) and wants me on Coumadin and other stuff...not sure what to

>do about that. I have no symptoms.

Weird question: Are you taking glucosamine and chondritin for joints?

Someone told me just this week, that they had fibrillation and someone

told them to stop taking glucosamine and it went away. Research is

showing it increases blood pressure and has other coronary effects.

I stopped it after noting my BP climbed 15 to 20 points after I

started it, and it has fallen again.

[Guest guest]

Got a batch intended for a wrestler maybe? Strange things have

happened!

In , retrogrouch@... wrote:

>

> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:23:19 -0000, you wrote:

>

> >Hey Guys,

> >

> >I've been taking Test. Ethanate by injection 100 mg per week for

> >years.

> >

> >I had my first check up in many months and my T levels were 1340,

> >way, way high and my pulse is now irregular. They are normally 400 -

> >500 for me.

>

>

> We've seen several of these reports lately of people on injections

> finding out their levels have jumped hugely. I'm beginning to wonder

> if there's a batch of mislabeled T out there. (Made in CHina ;-> )?

>

[Guest guest]

An adult aspirin, not the baby or 82mg?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2007, at 7:55 AM, " Vickie " <plp40@...> wrote:

Deano,

Not to scare you but Deano, the heart thing? It really needs to be

treated. Please back off on the T some and get that level down. I

didn't see your ECG and no, I am not a cardiologist. I'm the one

people call when they develop chest pain...a long time Paramedic.

You may not need a blood thinner just yet but, you sure should be

taking an adult asa a day.. Best follow the Doc's advise on this one

until the problem has been resolved. Afib's are well sustained....for

a while! Lots of folks walking around with the same thing treated and

not treated. The Doc's panic is because right now, you at risk for

throwing small clots, worsening rhythms, weaking your heart and vlave

damage. It is likely you will continue to need something to keep your

heart beating more effectively from now on and yes, too much T

ethanate for a long period of time may cuase your type of problem. It

might not be the cause either......67% of the population over the age

of 65 already have at least periods of Afib. It is common to see an

elevated CO2 level..that should fall in line when you get your heart

beck on track. Straighten out the T level and hopefully the heart

will follow. Good Luck and good health.

Vickie

In , " Deano " <DHerbert53@...> wrote:

Hey Guys,

I've been taking Test. Ethanate by injection 100 mg per week for

years.

I had my first check up in many months and my T levels were 1340,

way, way high and my pulse is now irregular. They are normally

400 -

500 for me. My CO2 was high too, which is weird.

Could T. be the culprit?

The Dr. freaked out, did an echocardiogram which confirmed Atrial

Fibrillation (which means that an external stimulus is confusing

the

electrical pulses of the heart and the valves don't know when to

open

and shut) and wants me on Coumadin and other stuff...not sure what

to

do about that. I have no symptoms.

Anyone else have a similar experience?

Thanks,

Deano in Cincinnati

Dherbert53@....

[Guest guest]

Well, actually, Vickie et. al, I do some wrestling but that's another

story. :-)

The only meds I have taken before now are T. and Fosamax...nothing

else. Now, I'm to be on Lovenax (clot buster) by injection for three

days and Coumadin for three weeks or so. I think the Cardiologist is

thinking Cardioversion after that (electrical " rebooting " of the

heart, if necessary.

My heart rate averages 70-80 waking...guess I was unclear in my

previous post; it was my T levels that are normally 400-500.

The plan is to take the two clot busting meds, lay off the T for a

week (and coffee and alcohol) and cut the dose after that, and go

back on an aspirin a day after that...then have the T. rechecked. My

endo is a great guy but not the " detective " that my previous doctor

in New York was, so this list is a big help to me.

Hey, I appreciate all of the input and concern, I have been in very

good shape until now and it is disconcerting to suddenly have this

problem.

Thanks,

Deano in Cincy

> >

> > >Hey Guys,

> > >

> > >I've been taking Test. Ethanate by injection 100 mg per week for

> > >years.

> > >

> > >I had my first check up in many months and my T levels were

1340,

> > >way, way high and my pulse is now irregular. They are normally

400 -

>

> > >500 for me.

> >

> >

> > We've seen several of these reports lately of people on injections

> > finding out their levels have jumped hugely. I'm beginning to

wonder

> > if there's a batch of mislabeled T out there. (Made in CHina ;-

> )?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

There is a good possibility the two are not related.

A good cardiologist will unravel the mystery.

There is so little known about the effects of elevated T, there may

not be anything in the book on this.

My endocrinologist mentioned treating some health conditions with

significant doses of T. I do not have any idea what the conditions

might be.

ernestnolan

>

> Hey Guys,

>

> I've been taking Test. Ethanate by injection 100 mg per week for

> years.

>

> I had my first check up in many months and my T levels were 1340,

> way, way high and my pulse is now irregular. They are normally 400 -

> 500 for me. My CO2 was high too, which is weird.

>

> Could T. be the culprit?

>

> The Dr. freaked out, did an echocardiogram which confirmed Atrial

> Fibrillation (which means that an external stimulus is confusing the

> electrical pulses of the heart and the valves don't know when to open

> and shut) and wants me on Coumadin and other stuff...not sure what to

> do about that. I have no symptoms.

>

> Anyone else have a similar experience?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Deano in Cincinnati

> Dherbert53@...

>