Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Sounds like your doctor is giving it to you intramuscular since you are using the buttocks. You should be able to tell by the needle size. My doc has me use a diabetic needle with .3 cc 3x a week subcutaneous in some belly or thigh fat. He says morning is the best time to take the shot... I am not sure on that one. xrougesquadronxx <xrougesquadronxx@...> wrote: Is HCG intramuscular or subcutaneous? (sp) I'm currently on a 500cc 3x a week and the doc wants me to take it right below the hip above the buttocks. Is that correct or is there a better format? Also, does it matter what time of the day I do the injections? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Wow 500 cc's is a lot how many IU's does this come to. If your doing HCG for TRT then your doing way to much. Go read www.allthingsmale.com the TRT: A Recipe for Success and the HCG Update. In the box on my HCG the insert says to use way to high of a dose. I do 100 IU's a day with my T shots 64 mgs. every 3 days. Guys that are using HCG only like Z only do 60 IU's a day and outers do up to 200 IU's a day. Phil Bowling <bowling6715@...> wrote: Sounds like your doctor is giving it to you intramuscular since you are using the buttocks. You should be able to tell by the needle size. My doc has me use a diabetic needle with .3 cc 3x a week subcutaneous in some belly or thigh fat. He says morning is the best time to take the shot... I am not sure on that one. xrougesquadronxx wrote: Is HCG intramuscular or subcutaneous? (sp) I'm currently on a 500cc 3x a week and the doc wants me to take it right below the hip above the buttocks. Is that correct or is there a better format? Also, does it matter what time of the day I do the injections? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 There's no way anyone could inject 500cc into themselves... he prolly means 500iu. HCG can be injected IM or Sub-q... the size of the needle and his bodyfat level would determine if the shot into his buttock is IM or sub-q. Most people have a good layer of fat on their buttock so a 1 " or 1.5 " needle is required to inject IM. If he is using anything smaller than 1 " , it's prolly going into his fat and not muscle. > Is HCG intramuscular or subcutaneous? (sp) I'm currently on a 500cc > 3x a week and the doc wants me to take it right below the hip above > the buttocks. Is that correct or is there a better format? Also, > does it matter what time of the day I do the injections? Thanks > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 > > Is HCG intramuscular or subcutaneous? (sp) I'm currently on a 500cc > 3x a week and the doc wants me to take it right below the hip above > the buttocks. Is that correct or is there a better format? Also, > does it matter what time of the day I do the injections? Thanks > The prescribing info almost always calls for IM. The drug also works subq. For three shots/week, subq would be alot more convenient. The prescribing info for Ovidrel (almost certainly not the brand you're using) calls for subq. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Sorry I meant 500IU's. I am currently not on any TRT just straight HCG. Is 500IU's 3x a week still considered too much? I currently have a bottle of 10,000IU of HCG. My doc just wants to try it out for a month and then test my T levels. The needle I have reads/measures up to 1.0 ml, from what I understand from my doc if I pull back the syringe to .5ml that is equal to 500IU's of HCG. Is that correct? Sorry but I am new to all this, this is my first time on HCG. She also said the HCG I have (Novarel) is done intramuscularlly. > Is HCG intramuscular or subcutaneous? (sp) I'm currently on a 500cc > 3x a week and the doc wants me to take it right below the hip above > the buttocks. Is that correct or is there a better format? Also, > does it matter what time of the day I do the injections? Thanks > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Brad 2 weeks ago I started doing my 100 IU HCG shot everyday SubQ I don't get that feeling of well being as strong but I did find that my E2 is much less a problem. I was doing .5 arimidex 2 x's a day now only doing .5 on the day I do my T shot so I take .5 mgs every 3 days. I am not feeling like my T levels have come down but one never knows. I do my next blood test Monday so we will see. Phil brad999us <no_reply > wrote: > > Is HCG intramuscular or subcutaneous? (sp) I'm currently on a 500cc > 3x a week and the doc wants me to take it right below the hip above > the buttocks. Is that correct or is there a better format? Also, > does it matter what time of the day I do the injections? Thanks > The prescribing info almost always calls for IM. The drug also works subq. For three shots/week, subq would be alot more convenient. The prescribing info for Ovidrel (almost certainly not the brand you're using) calls for subq. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 I was doing HCG 500 IU's 3 times a week it took 15 shots then my T levels went way up. But I was also doing Depo T shots 150 mgs. a week. My Total T went up from 650 doing 150 mgs. of Depo T to 1087 adding HCG. But my range is not the same as most 262 to 1598 so 1087 puts me in the upper 1/3 of the labs range. Most of he guys doing HCG only are finding it works better doing the shot SubQ in there belly everyday. So 30 days for a blood test maybe to soon. It does take some time to get your testis going. Phil xrougesquadronxx <xrougesquadronxx@...> wrote: Sorry I meant 500IU's. I am currently not on any TRT just straight HCG. Is 500IU's 3x a week still considered too much? I currently have a bottle of 10,000IU of HCG. My doc just wants to try it out for a month and then test my T levels. The needle I have reads/measures up to 1.0 ml, from what I understand from my doc if I pull back the syringe to .5ml that is equal to 500IU's of HCG. Is that correct? Sorry but I am new to all this, this is my first time on HCG. She also said the HCG I have (Novarel) is done intramuscularlly. > Is HCG intramuscular or subcutaneous? (sp) I'm currently on a 500cc > 3x a week and the doc wants me to take it right below the hip above > the buttocks. Is that correct or is there a better format? Also, > does it matter what time of the day I do the injections? Thanks > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 What about the needle dosing question, is that correct also? The needle I have reads/measures up to 1.0 ml, from what I understand from my doc if I pull back the syringe to .5ml that is equal to 500IU's of HCG. Is that correct? > > Is HCG intramuscular or subcutaneous? (sp) I'm currently on a > 500cc > > 3x a week and the doc wants me to take it right below the hip > above > > the buttocks. Is that correct or is there a better format? Also, > > does it matter what time of the day I do the injections? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Sorry yes .5 ml is 500 IU's. I use a 27g 1ml x 1/2 " lg. needle to do my shots was doing them IM in my thy now find it does not spike as fast doing them in my belly subQ. Phil xrougesquadronxx <xrougesquadronxx@...> wrote: What about the needle dosing question, is that correct also? The needle I have reads/measures up to 1.0 ml, from what I understand from my doc if I pull back the syringe to .5ml that is equal to 500IU's of HCG. Is that correct? > > Is HCG intramuscular or subcutaneous? (sp) I'm currently on a > 500cc > > 3x a week and the doc wants me to take it right below the hip > above > > the buttocks. Is that correct or is there a better format? Also, > > does it matter what time of the day I do the injections? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 > > Sorry I meant 500IU's. I am currently not on any TRT just straight > HCG. Is 500IU's 3x a week still considered too much? I currently > have a bottle of 10,000IU of HCG. My doc just wants to try it out > for a month and then test my T levels. The needle I have > reads/measures up to 1.0 ml, from what I understand from my doc if I > pull back the syringe to .5ml that is equal to 500IU's of HCG. Is > that correct? The vial contains 10,000IU total. The volume of water is 10ml. When you mix them, the concentration is 10,000IU/10ml or 1,000IU/ml. So, yes, 0.5ml of reconstituted drug is 500IU. > Sorry but I am new to all this, this is my first time > on HCG. She also said the HCG I have (Novarel) is done > intramuscularlly. > The prescribing info for Novarel will call for IM injection. I'm not necessarily advising you NOT to do IM. I'm just pointing out the drug also works subq. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Hey Mr Phil, are you primary or secondary? The thing with HCG, is most doctors will not write a script, because the studies prove it doesn't stimilate the testes in primary males. It helps to reproduce it in secondary males, because their problem isn't associated with the testes. I understand HCG won't help me produce sperm from my testes, but I'm focused on a better way of life. If HCG can give me energy, better memory and focus-ness and a better lilido, then I will find it in my budget and hound my doctor in writing me the script. The problem is, if you have a script, most pharmacy suppliers don't keep it in stock, or don't know where to order it. I think if folks are taking HCG now and can share where their own pharmacy orders HCG from, it can help folks like me out alot. --- philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: > Sorry yes .5 ml is 500 IU's. I use a 27g 1ml x 1/2 " > lg. needle to do my shots was doing them IM in my > thy now find it does not spike as fast doing them in > my belly subQ. > Phil > > xrougesquadronxx <xrougesquadronxx@...> > wrote: > What about the needle dosing question, is that > correct also? The > needle I have reads/measures up to 1.0 ml, from what > I understand > from my doc if I pull back the syringe to .5ml that > is equal to > 500IU's of HCG. Is that correct? > > > > > Is HCG intramuscular or subcutaneous? (sp) I'm > currently on a > > 500cc > > > 3x a week and the doc wants me to take it right > below the hip > > above > > > the buttocks. Is that correct or is there a > better format? Also, > > > does it matter what time of the day I do the > injections? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 I am primary and this does not mean HCG will not help your testis can still make T when your primary just not enough. Plus all the cells in your body that LH works on doing HCG gets every thing working again. As for finding HCG there is a shortage on it that looks like it will be over by the end of this month. Phil ELLIOT BAKER <elliotbkr@...> wrote: Hey Mr Phil, are you primary or secondary? The thing with HCG, is most doctors will not write a script, because the studies prove it doesn't stimilate the testes in primary males. It helps to reproduce it in secondary males, because their problem isn't associated with the testes. I understand HCG won't help me produce sperm from my testes, but I'm focused on a better way of life. If HCG can give me energy, better memory and focus-ness and a better lilido, then I will find it in my budget and hound my doctor in writing me the script. The problem is, if you have a script, most pharmacy suppliers don't keep it in stock, or don't know where to order it. I think if folks are taking HCG now and can share where their own pharmacy orders HCG from, it can help folks like me out alot. --- philip georgian wrote: > Sorry yes .5 ml is 500 IU's. I use a 27g 1ml x 1/2 " > lg. needle to do my shots was doing them IM in my > thy now find it does not spike as fast doing them in > my belly subQ. > Phil > > xrougesquadronxx > wrote: > What about the needle dosing question, is that > correct also? The > needle I have reads/measures up to 1.0 ml, from what > I understand > from my doc if I pull back the syringe to .5ml that > is equal to > 500IU's of HCG. Is that correct? > > > > > Is HCG intramuscular or subcutaneous? (sp) I'm > currently on a > > 500cc > > > 3x a week and the doc wants me to take it right > below the hip > > above > > > the buttocks. Is that correct or is there a > better format? Also, > > > does it matter what time of the day I do the > injections? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 How does one know if they are Primary or secondary? philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: I am primary and this does not mean HCG will not help your testis can still make T when your primary just not enough. Plus all the cells in your body that LH works on doing HCG gets every thing working again. As for finding HCG there is a shortage on it that looks like it will be over by the end of this month. Phil ELLIOT BAKER <elliotbkr@...> wrote: Hey Mr Phil, are you primary or secondary? The thing with HCG, is most doctors will not write a script, because the studies prove it doesn't stimilate the testes in primary males. It helps to reproduce it in secondary males, because their problem isn't associated with the testes. I understand HCG won't help me produce sperm from my testes, but I'm focused on a better way of life. If HCG can give me energy, better memory and focus-ness and a better lilido, then I will find it in my budget and hound my doctor in writing me the script. The problem is, if you have a script, most pharmacy suppliers don't keep it in stock, or don't know where to order it. I think if folks are taking HCG now and can share where their own pharmacy orders HCG from, it can help folks like me out alot. --- philip georgian wrote: > Sorry yes .5 ml is 500 IU's. I use a 27g 1ml x 1/2 " > lg. needle to do my shots was doing them IM in my > thy now find it does not spike as fast doing them in > my belly subQ. > Phil > > xrougesquadronxx > wrote: > What about the needle dosing question, is that > correct also? The > needle I have reads/measures up to 1.0 ml, from what > I understand > from my doc if I pull back the syringe to .5ml that > is equal to > 500IU's of HCG. Is that correct? > > > > > Is HCG intramuscular or subcutaneous? (sp) I'm > currently on a > > 500cc > > > 3x a week and the doc wants me to take it right > below the hip > > above > > > the buttocks. Is that correct or is there a > better format? Also, > > > does it matter what time of the day I do the > injections? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Here read this link and if you still have questions be glad to help. http://www.aace.com/pub/pdf/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf Phil sam grogan <swg1802@...> wrote: How does one know if they are Primary or secondary? philip georgian wrote: I am primary and this does not mean HCG will not help your testis can still make T when your primary just not enough. Plus all the cells in your body that LH works on doing HCG gets every thing working again. As for finding HCG there is a shortage on it that looks like it will be over by the end of this month. Phil ELLIOT BAKER wrote: Hey Mr Phil, are you primary or secondary? The thing with HCG, is most doctors will not write a script, because the studies prove it doesn't stimilate the testes in primary males. It helps to reproduce it in secondary males, because their problem isn't associated with the testes. I understand HCG won't help me produce sperm from my testes, but I'm focused on a better way of life. If HCG can give me energy, better memory and focus-ness and a better lilido, then I will find it in my budget and hound my doctor in writing me the script. The problem is, if you have a script, most pharmacy suppliers don't keep it in stock, or don't know where to order it. I think if folks are taking HCG now and can share where their own pharmacy orders HCG from, it can help folks like me out alot. --- philip georgian wrote: > Sorry yes .5 ml is 500 IU's. I use a 27g 1ml x 1/2 " > lg. needle to do my shots was doing them IM in my > thy now find it does not spike as fast doing them in > my belly subQ. > Phil > > xrougesquadronxx > wrote: > What about the needle dosing question, is that > correct also? The > needle I have reads/measures up to 1.0 ml, from what > I understand > from my doc if I pull back the syringe to .5ml that > is equal to > 500IU's of HCG. Is that correct? > > > > > Is HCG intramuscular or subcutaneous? (sp) I'm > currently on a > > 500cc > > > 3x a week and the doc wants me to take it right > below the hip > > above > > > the buttocks. Is that correct or is there a > better format? Also, > > > does it matter what time of the day I do the > injections? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Hey Mr Phil thanks for responding back. Do you mean, the shortage of HCG will be over later this month, or their will be no more HCG from any where later this month? I checked out your health plan, and it's about the same as mine, but mine doesn't cover HCG. I was looking for a drug HMO and not a health plan. I have a drug HMO and a health plan, like I stated they don't cover HCG. Same places on the net, have HCG for 80-120 dollars, standard doses, and they take scripts. It's finding the money that sucks. Mr Phil, were you born with undescended teste like me, and had surgery but never was on THT treatment until late in life? Were you able to bare a child? How is your gentialia? I read HCG is used on females to get pregnant, it's also used on males for that same purpose, maybe if I ever get a date, I could bare a child as HCG helps. Just curious, if too personal don't answer. --- philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: > I am primary and this does not mean HCG will not > help your testis can still make T when your primary > just not enough. Plus all the cells in your body > that LH works on doing HCG gets every thing working > again. As for finding HCG there is a shortage on it > that looks like it will be over by the end of this > month. > Phil > > ELLIOT BAKER <elliotbkr@...> wrote: > Hey Mr Phil, are you primary or secondary? The > thing > with HCG, is most doctors will not write a script, > because the studies prove it doesn't stimilate the > testes in primary males. It helps to reproduce it in > secondary males, because their problem isn't > associated with the testes. > > > I understand HCG won't help me produce sperm from my > testes, but I'm focused on a better way of life. If > HCG can give me energy, better memory and focus-ness > and a better lilido, then I will find it in my > budget > and hound my doctor in writing me the script. > > > The problem is, if you have a script, most pharmacy > suppliers don't keep it in stock, or don't know > where > to order it. I think if folks are taking HCG now and > can share where their own pharmacy orders HCG from, > it > can help folks like me out alot. > > --- philip georgian > wrote: > > > Sorry yes .5 ml is 500 IU's. I use a 27g 1ml x > 1/2 " > > lg. needle to do my shots was doing them IM in my > > thy now find it does not spike as fast doing them > in > > my belly subQ. > > Phil > > > > xrougesquadronxx > > wrote: > > What about the needle dosing question, is that > > correct also? The > > needle I have reads/measures up to 1.0 ml, from > what > > I understand > > from my doc if I pull back the syringe to .5ml > that > > is equal to > > 500IU's of HCG. Is that correct? > > > > > > > > Is HCG intramuscular or subcutaneous? (sp) I'm > > currently on a > > > 500cc > > > > 3x a week and the doc wants me to take it > right > > below the hip > > > above > > > > the buttocks. Is that correct or is there a > > better format? Also, > > > > does it matter what time of the day I do the > > injections? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 That is what I heard the hcg shortage will be over by the end of this month. Yes you need a script from a Dr. and the cost is about $45 to $55. My testis were fine never had a problem. Phil ELLIOT BAKER <elliotbkr@...> wrote: Hey Mr Phil thanks for responding back. Do you mean, the shortage of HCG will be over later this month, or their will be no more HCG from any where later this month? I checked out your health plan, and it's about the same as mine, but mine doesn't cover HCG. I was looking for a drug HMO and not a health plan. I have a drug HMO and a health plan, like I stated they don't cover HCG. Same places on the net, have HCG for 80-120 dollars, standard doses, and they take scripts. It's finding the money that sucks. Mr Phil, were you born with undescended teste like me, and had surgery but never was on THT treatment until late in life? Were you able to bare a child? How is your gentialia? I read HCG is used on females to get pregnant, it's also used on males for that same purpose, maybe if I ever get a date, I could bare a child as HCG helps. Just curious, if too personal don't answer. --- philip georgian wrote: > I am primary and this does not mean HCG will not > help your testis can still make T when your primary > just not enough. Plus all the cells in your body > that LH works on doing HCG gets every thing working > again. As for finding HCG there is a shortage on it > that looks like it will be over by the end of this > month. > Phil > > ELLIOT BAKER wrote: > Hey Mr Phil, are you primary or secondary? The > thing > with HCG, is most doctors will not write a script, > because the studies prove it doesn't stimilate the > testes in primary males. It helps to reproduce it in > secondary males, because their problem isn't > associated with the testes. > > > I understand HCG won't help me produce sperm from my > testes, but I'm focused on a better way of life. If > HCG can give me energy, better memory and focus-ness > and a better lilido, then I will find it in my > budget > and hound my doctor in writing me the script. > > > The problem is, if you have a script, most pharmacy > suppliers don't keep it in stock, or don't know > where > to order it. I think if folks are taking HCG now and > can share where their own pharmacy orders HCG from, > it > can help folks like me out alot. > > --- philip georgian > wrote: > > > Sorry yes .5 ml is 500 IU's. I use a 27g 1ml x > 1/2 " > > lg. needle to do my shots was doing them IM in my > > thy now find it does not spike as fast doing them > in > > my belly subQ. > > Phil > > > > xrougesquadronxx > > wrote: > > What about the needle dosing question, is that > > correct also? The > > needle I have reads/measures up to 1.0 ml, from > what > > I understand > > from my doc if I pull back the syringe to .5ml > that > > is equal to > > 500IU's of HCG. Is that correct? > > > > > > > > Is HCG intramuscular or subcutaneous? (sp) I'm > > currently on a > > > 500cc > > > > 3x a week and the doc wants me to take it > right > > below the hip > > > above > > > > the buttocks. Is that correct or is there a > > better format? Also, > > > > does it matter what time of the day I do the > > injections? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Thanks, I will be injecting myself for the first time tommorrw, it will be a freaky thought. Doc told me to inject myself above the buttocks region. The needle is about 1.5 inches long. Doc said to go in about 1 inch...it seems pretty deep. Is that normal? Also she told me to watch out for blood vessels and not to hit them. What happens if I do? Thanks for your help. > > > Is HCG intramuscular or subcutaneous? (sp) I'm currently on a > > 500cc > > > 3x a week and the doc wants me to take it right below the hip > > above > > > the buttocks. Is that correct or is there a better format? Also, > > > does it matter what time of the day I do the injections? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Most of the guys I have talked to are using a small needle 27g 1ml x 1/2 " lg. needle some shoot in there thy and others shoot in there belly just off to the side of the belly buttom. Doing the shot like your Dr. told you is way over board for a HCG shot. Here is a link on how to do the shot in your leg. Or your butt. http://spotinjections.com/index3.htm Phil xrougesquadronxx <xrougesquadronxx@...> wrote: Thanks, I will be injecting myself for the first time tommorrw, it will be a freaky thought. Doc told me to inject myself above the buttocks region. The needle is about 1.5 inches long. Doc said to go in about 1 inch...it seems pretty deep. Is that normal? Also she told me to watch out for blood vessels and not to hit them. What happens if I do? Thanks for your help. > > > Is HCG intramuscular or subcutaneous? (sp) I'm currently on a > > 500cc > > > 3x a week and the doc wants me to take it right below the hip > > above > > > the buttocks. Is that correct or is there a better format? Also, > > > does it matter what time of the day I do the injections? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 > > Thanks, I will be injecting myself for the first time tommorrw, it > will be a freaky thought. Doc told me to inject myself above the > buttocks region. The needle is about 1.5 inches long. Doc said to go > in about 1 inch...it seems pretty deep. Is that normal? 1 1/2 inches is normal for buttocks. You don't have to measure it precisely. As long as you are well within the muscle, you're fine. For me, the discomfort is in breaking the skin and maybe the first bit of muscle. So once I'm in 1 inch, additional depth feels no different. An inch and 1 1/2 inches feel the same to me. > Also she told me to watch out for blood vessels and not to hit them. Stick to the outer aspect of the buttock. You aren't very likely to hit a nerve or blood vessel there. > What happens if I do? Just withdraw the needle. Throw the whole thing away and start all over. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Don't worry about it, it's no big deal after the first couple of shots. I tried it in the butt but hard to tell when I am drawing whether I hit a vein or not so I started in my thy and find it is so much easier and it doesn't get sore at all since you don't sit on your thy. My daughter used to give me shots all the time but I told her I thought I could do it and have been ever since. I use a 1 1/2 needle too, put it in about an inch to be sure you are in the muscle. After sticking it in be sure to draw back on the syringe to be sure there is no blood then go ahead and slowly push the plunger in. Might rub it a little afterward if there is no blood, it won't get as sore that way. If there is bleeding, put a bandaid on it. Roy xrougesquadronxx <xrougesquadronxx@...> wrote: Thanks, I will be injecting myself for the first time tommorrw, it will be a freaky thought. Doc told me to inject myself above the buttocks region. The needle is about 1.5 inches long. Doc said to go in about 1 inch...it seems pretty deep. Is that normal? Also she told me to watch out for blood vessels and not to hit them. What happens if I do? Thanks for your help. > > > Is HCG intramuscular or subcutaneous? (sp) I'm currently on a > > 500cc > > > 3x a week and the doc wants me to take it right below the hip > > above > > > the buttocks. Is that correct or is there a better format? Also, > > > does it matter what time of the day I do the injections? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 No don't do 1500 IU's on anyday this is way too much and will burn out your testis and make you Primary. You are Seconday right if not your testis will only make as much T as they did on your first test. Go to this link and read TRT: A Recipe for Success and the HCG Update. http://www.allthingsmale.com/publications.html Phil Here is a cut and paste from the Article. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ -----------------------------------------------------It is important that no more than 500IU of HCG be administered on any given day. There is only just so much stimulation possible, and exceeding that not only is wasteful, doing so has important negative consequences. Testosterone only goes so high, but estrogen and progesterone levels continue to increase. Higher doses overly stimulate testicular aromatase, which inappropriately raises estrogen levels, and brings on the detrimental effects of same. It also causes Leydig cell desentization to LH, and we are therefore inducing primary hypogonadism while perhaps treating secondary hypogonadism. 250IU QD is an effective, and safe, dose. After all, we are merely replacing that which is lost to inhibition. Supplementing to physiologic concentration will not induce undue LH cell desentization. shelbycol <no_reply > wrote: would like to restart my testicles injecting hcg. Have been using andogel several yr's can anybody advise should I stop gel. for a week my plan is to inject 1500iu ever 4th day for 6 weeks while traking 1 ea. tab of clomid . --------------------------------- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Search movie showtime shortcut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 That's too much. Go to the Anti-Aging forum at www.anabolicminds.com and see what is being discussed there about adding HCG to T therapy, or read the publications at www.allthingsmale.com about this. Why would you take clomid while on TRT? --- shelbycol <no_reply > wrote: > would like to restart my testicles injecting hcg. Have been using > andogel several yr's can > anybody advise should I stop gel. for a week my plan is to inject > 1500iu ever 4th day for 6 > weeks while traking 1 ea. tab of clomid . > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. http://autos./green_center/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:03:37 -0000, you wrote: >would like to restart my testicles injecting hcg. Have been using andogel several yr's can >anybody advise should I stop gel. for a week my plan is to inject 1500iu ever 4th day for 6 >weeks while traking 1 ea. tab of clomid . Clomid and HCG? That would worry me. It sounds like you're self medicating. While doctors are a pain on these issues - I'd look to a fertility specialist for some help. I assume this is for fertility purposes and not just to get your balls to regular size? ----- " Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit atrocities. " - Voltaire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 I did this for about 3 months. My estrogen when way up!! So I had to take arimidex with it as well. Neither was covered by my prescription plan, so it got to be expensive. I feel better with Androgel + HCG, but we are all different. You need to work with a smart doctor to find out what works best for you. Chris --- vaiisking1026 <vaiisking@...> wrote: > > Is there anyone who only takes HCG as TRT? I know it suppresses the > HPTA to making less LH, but in those who are secondary, is this a > long > term treatment option for some? > > God Bless, > Chris > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile./mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Yes, I only take HCG, have for seven years, good stuff. I think the suppression of anything in our body is most likely incorrect. Yes, it may take our bodies some recovery time, to get as balanced as it is capable. But long term affects have not been a problem. I have been off HCG for two months, and within a couple weeks after stopping HCG, I was back to the low three hundred T's. If you listen to medics, who tell you never to take insulin, consider again, as I am a borderline diabetic, my blood sugar will go to two hundred, about fifty more than normal, and it will take three or more hours to return to a hundred, normal. High blood sugar is bad, so I take insulin to help my body out. Still, after two years, my body still produces it's own insulin just like it did before I took a shot. Of course, my body could be from Mars, I don't know for sure. I do know I was so excited about arriving here, it took me almost a year to tell anyone about it. kind regards david > > > Is there anyone who only takes HCG as TRT? I know it suppresses the > HPTA to making less LH, but in those who are secondary, is this a long > term treatment option for some? > > God Bless, > Chris > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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