Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 It's not all that hard to see why you need to test your E's and Estradiol if it's to high it will make you feel like this. And you need to test your blood levels CBC I think it is called to be sure your blood does not get to thick. I have this link because it's full of good info evern for us men. http://www.ftmguide.org/ttypes.html#overview Co-Moderator Phil > From: Liam <lbruce89roses@...> > Subject: free T levels > > Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 7:45 PM > Hi, > > I'm an ftm identified person who just started taking > " T " It's been 3m > and I just got my results back from my blood work. I'm > a bit confused > here! Apparently, my levels were tested as a biof which was > a mistake > due to my circumstance! My dR. told me that my free T is at > 98.9 which > doesn't make sense b/c i thought the range for a biom > is around > 8.7-25.1 picogram/ml My age is 30. when i did the math i > came up with > 910 nanograms/dl and I think the range is 200-800 for a > bioM? > My estrogen is at 156 and I think it's too high but I > guess it depends > on what cycle i'm in during the month that I got > tested. > anyway, it's been 3m for me and i'm not seeing too > many changes other > then hair on my chin and my voice is slightly deeper...not > so much > deeper but I guess you could say different? > > I'm was on 70mg per week schedule of cyp and I just > lowered the dosage > to 60mg last week. I'm feeling really tired but I would > say that since > I lowered my dosage i'm feeling a bit better..not much > though! > Should I be concerned? > > P.s my weight is 130 so the math...i calculated was 130 > *7*1ml=910 ng/dl > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 > > > From: Liam <lbruce89roses@...> > > Subject: free T levels > > > > Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 7:45 PM > > Hi, > > > > I'm an ftm identified person who just started taking > > " T " It's been 3m > > and I just got my results back from my blood work. I'm > > a bit confused > > here! Apparently, my levels were tested as a biof which was > > a mistake > > due to my circumstance! My dR. told me that my free T is at > > 98.9 which > > doesn't make sense b/c i thought the range for a biom > > is around > > 8.7-25.1 picogram/ml My age is 30. when i did the math i > > came up with > > 910 nanograms/dl and I think the range is 200-800 for a > > bioM? > > My estrogen is at 156 and I think it's too high but I > > guess it depends > > on what cycle i'm in during the month that I got > > tested. > > anyway, it's been 3m for me and i'm not seeing too > > many changes other > > then hair on my chin and my voice is slightly deeper...not > > so much > > deeper but I guess you could say different? > > > > I'm was on 70mg per week schedule of cyp and I just > > lowered the dosage > > to 60mg last week. I'm feeling really tired but I would > > say that since > > I lowered my dosage i'm feeling a bit better..not much > > though! > > Should I be concerned? > > > > P.s my weight is 130 so the math...i calculated was 130 > > *7*1ml=910 ng/dl > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Not sure if your upset with us or what most of us on TRT have high levels of Estradiol and need to get this down it undoes the good the testosterone does. Your welcome to post your problems here we will try to help as best as we can. Your going to have about the same problems with being on Testosterone as most here. So this is all I was saying get your Estradiol tested if it's to high take something to get it down. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Liam <lbruce89roses@...> > Subject: Re: free T levels > > Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 10:24 AM > > > > > > From: Liam <lbruce89roses@...> > > > Subject: free T levels > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 7:45 PM > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm an ftm identified person who just started > taking > > > " T " It's been 3m > > > and I just got my results back from my blood > work. I'm > > > a bit confused > > > here! Apparently, my levels were tested as a biof > which was > > > a mistake > > > due to my circumstance! My dR. told me that my > free T is at > > > 98.9 which > > > doesn't make sense b/c i thought the range > for a biom > > > is around > > > 8.7-25.1 picogram/ml My age is 30. when i did the > math i > > > came up with > > > 910 nanograms/dl and I think the range is 200-800 > for a > > > bioM? > > > My estrogen is at 156 and I think it's too > high but I > > > guess it depends > > > on what cycle i'm in during the month that I > got > > > tested. > > > anyway, it's been 3m for me and i'm not > seeing too > > > many changes other > > > then hair on my chin and my voice is slightly > deeper...not > > > so much > > > deeper but I guess you could say different? > > > > > > I'm was on 70mg per week schedule of cyp and > I just > > > lowered the dosage > > > to 60mg last week. I'm feeling really tired > but I would > > > say that since > > > I lowered my dosage i'm feeling a bit > better..not much > > > though! > > > Should I be concerned? > > > > > > P.s my weight is 130 so the math...i calculated > was 130 > > > *7*1ml=910 ng/dl > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Hi Liam, One thing that may be effecting your energy is that when the system is estrogen dominant, more of your testosterone becomes bound up in SHBG, and more of your thyroid hormones get bound up in TBG. This will make your energy levels swing drastically. It might behoove you to get a thyroid panel with your next set of tests. It is crazy, if you take more than a certain amount of T with out an aromatase inhibiting agent, your E2 levels will rise, causing the condition mentioned above. If you don't take enough, your system will swing back to estrogen dominance. Since you are still in the early part of your journey, you might also ask your doc about taking Danazol or something like it to suppress LH & FSH. This would at least get you down to just having to worry about T-> E conversion, and not so much about endogenous E. I know several people in transition from MTF that are now on thyroid supplementation, at least temporarily. It may be a non-issue once you get your levels stabilized, but I think it would still be worth checking. > > Hi, > > I'm an ftm identified person who just started taking " T " It's been 3m > and I just got my results back from my blood work. I'm a bit confused > here! Apparently, my levels were tested as a biof which was a mistake > due to my circumstance! My dR. told me that my free T is at 98.9 which > doesn't make sense b/c i thought the range for a biom is around > 8.7-25.1 picogram/ml My age is 30. when i did the math i came up with > 910 nanograms/dl and I think the range is 200-800 for a bioM? > My estrogen is at 156 and I think it's too high but I guess it depends > on what cycle i'm in during the month that I got tested. > anyway, it's been 3m for me and i'm not seeing too many changes other > then hair on my chin and my voice is slightly deeper...not so much > deeper but I guess you could say different? > > I'm was on 70mg per week schedule of cyp and I just lowered the dosage > to 60mg last week. I'm feeling really tired but I would say that since > I lowered my dosage i'm feeling a bit better..not much though! > Should I be concerned? > > P.s my weight is 130 so the math...i calculated was 130 *7*1ml=910 ng/dl > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Dam good point Mike and do test Cortisol levels to high levels of E2 will stress the Adrenals too. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Mike Lawson <mlawson66@...> > Subject: Re: free T levels > > Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 4:48 PM > Hi Liam, > > One thing that may be effecting your energy is that > when the system is estrogen dominant, more of > your testosterone becomes bound up in SHBG, > and more of your thyroid hormones get bound > up in TBG. This will make your energy levels > swing drastically. It might behoove you to get > a thyroid panel with your next set of tests. > > It is crazy, if you take more than a certain > amount of T with out an aromatase inhibiting > agent, your E2 levels will rise, causing the > condition mentioned above. If you don't > take enough, your system will swing back > to estrogen dominance. Since you are > still in the early part of your journey, you > might also ask your doc about taking Danazol > or something like it to suppress LH & FSH. > This would at least get you down to just > having to worry about T-> E conversion, and > not so much about endogenous E. > > I know several people in transition from MTF that > are now on thyroid supplementation, at least > temporarily. It may be a non-issue once you > get your levels stabilized, but I think it would > still be worth checking. > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm an ftm identified person who just started > taking " T " It's been 3m > > and I just got my results back from my blood work. > I'm a bit confused > > here! Apparently, my levels were tested as a biof > which was a mistake > > due to my circumstance! My dR. told me that my free T > is at 98.9 which > > doesn't make sense b/c i thought the range for a > biom is around > > 8.7-25.1 picogram/ml My age is 30. when i did the math > i came up with > > 910 nanograms/dl and I think the range is 200-800 for > a bioM? > > My estrogen is at 156 and I think it's too high > but I guess it depends > > on what cycle i'm in during the month that I got > tested. > > anyway, it's been 3m for me and i'm not seeing > too many changes other > > then hair on my chin and my voice is slightly > deeper...not so much > > deeper but I guess you could say different? > > > > I'm was on 70mg per week schedule of cyp and I > just lowered the dosage > > to 60mg last week. I'm feeling really tired but I > would say that since > > I lowered my dosage i'm feeling a bit better..not > much though! > > Should I be concerned? > > > > P.s my weight is 130 so the math...i calculated was > 130 *7*1ml=910 ng/dl > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm an ftm identified person who just started taking " T " It's been 3m > > and I just got my results back from my blood work. I'm a bit confused > > here! Apparently, my levels were tested as a biof which was a mistake > > due to my circumstance! My dR. told me that my free T is at 98.9 which > > doesn't make sense b/c i thought the range for a biom is around > > 8.7-25.1 picogram/ml My age is 30. when i did the math i came up with > > 910 nanograms/dl and I think the range is 200-800 for a bioM? > > My estrogen is at 156 and I think it's too high but I guess it depends > > on what cycle i'm in during the month that I got tested. > > anyway, it's been 3m for me and i'm not seeing too many changes other > > then hair on my chin and my voice is slightly deeper...not so much > > deeper but I guess you could say different? > > > > I'm was on 70mg per week schedule of cyp and I just lowered the dosage > > to 60mg last week. I'm feeling really tired but I would say that since > > I lowered my dosage i'm feeling a bit better..not much though! > > Should I be concerned? > > > > P.s my weight is 130 so the math...i calculated was 130 *7*1ml=910 ng/dl > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 > > > > > > > From: Liam <lbruce89roses@> > > > > Subject: free T levels > > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 7:45 PM > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I'm an ftm identified person who just started > > taking > > > > " T " It's been 3m > > > > and I just got my results back from my blood > > work. I'm > > > > a bit confused > > > > here! Apparently, my levels were tested as a biof > > which was > > > > a mistake > > > > due to my circumstance! My dR. told me that my > > free T is at > > > > 98.9 which > > > > doesn't make sense b/c i thought the range > > for a biom > > > > is around > > > > 8.7-25.1 picogram/ml My age is 30. when i did the > > math i > > > > came up with > > > > 910 nanograms/dl and I think the range is 200-800 > > for a > > > > bioM? > > > > My estrogen is at 156 and I think it's too > > high but I > > > > guess it depends > > > > on what cycle i'm in during the month that I > > got > > > > tested. > > > > anyway, it's been 3m for me and i'm not > > seeing too > > > > many changes other > > > > then hair on my chin and my voice is slightly > > deeper...not > > > > so much > > > > deeper but I guess you could say different? > > > > > > > > I'm was on 70mg per week schedule of cyp and > > I just > > > > lowered the dosage > > > > to 60mg last week. I'm feeling really tired > > but I would > > > > say that since > > > > I lowered my dosage i'm feeling a bit > > better..not much > > > > though! > > > > Should I be concerned? > > > > > > > > P.s my weight is 130 so the math...i calculated > > was 130 > > > > *7*1ml=910 ng/dl > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Welcome to the group. We are of many different bodies. Some just male, some with low male hormones & high female hormones, some part male & part female in chromosomes, & some in transition from female to male. Some of us are Klinefelters 47-xy/xxy Mosaic. We make extra estradiol & less testosterone naturally. All of us have some are extra sensitivity. Many would be overy sensitive to large breast remarks. I have just recently, last few years, accepted my large breasts as a part of me, after I found I was Klinefelters Mosaic. Do not look for remarks that may be insulting to you, they may just be innocent. If someone said to me " can I suck your tits " , that would be insulting to me. If they said " could you tell me how to grow breasts like yours " , that would not insult me. Most of us " males " here take testosterone to increase the male & Arimidex to reduce the female estradiol E2 side of us. I would imagine that the " female to males " would be doing the same. Many of us also have a problem with the written language. The " range " depends on the lab. My lab " range " for T is 100 to 800 My lab " range " for E2 is 10 to 54 My best T:E2 ratio is from 30:1 to 50:1 I aim for the top of the T range & about 20 on the E2 Good luck, > > Hi, > > I'm an ftm identified person who just started taking " T " It's been 3m > and I just got my results back from my blood work. I'm a bit confused > here! Apparently, my levels were tested as a biof which was a mistake > due to my circumstance! My dR. told me that my free T is at 98.9 which > doesn't make sense b/c i thought the range for a biom is around > 8.7-25.1 picogram/ml My age is 30. when i did the math i came up with > 910 nanograms/dl and I think the range is 200-800 for a bioM? > My estrogen is at 156 and I think it's too high but I guess it depends > on what cycle i'm in during the month that I got tested. > anyway, it's been 3m for me and i'm not seeing too many changes other > then hair on my chin and my voice is slightly deeper...not so much > deeper but I guess you could say different? > > I'm was on 70mg per week schedule of cyp and I just lowered the dosage > to 60mg last week. I'm feeling really tired but I would say that since > I lowered my dosage i'm feeling a bit better..not much though! > Should I be concerned? > > P.s my weight is 130 so the math...i calculated was 130 *7*1ml=910 ng/dl > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Well when it comes to hormones your in the right place and no question is a bad one. I hope you find what your looking for. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Liam <lbruce89roses@...> > Subject: Re: free T levels > > Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 6:37 PM > > > > > > > > > > From: Liam <lbruce89roses@> > > > > > Subject: free T levels > > > > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 7:45 > PM > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I'm an ftm identified person who > just started > > > taking > > > > > " T " It's been 3m > > > > > and I just got my results back from my > blood > > > work. I'm > > > > > a bit confused > > > > > here! Apparently, my levels were tested > as a biof > > > which was > > > > > a mistake > > > > > due to my circumstance! My dR. told me > that my > > > free T is at > > > > > 98.9 which > > > > > doesn't make sense b/c i thought > the range > > > for a biom > > > > > is around > > > > > 8.7-25.1 picogram/ml My age is 30. when > i did the > > > math i > > > > > came up with > > > > > 910 nanograms/dl and I think the range > is 200-800 > > > for a > > > > > bioM? > > > > > My estrogen is at 156 and I think > it's too > > > high but I > > > > > guess it depends > > > > > on what cycle i'm in during the > month that I > > > got > > > > > tested. > > > > > anyway, it's been 3m for me and > i'm not > > > seeing too > > > > > many changes other > > > > > then hair on my chin and my voice is > slightly > > > deeper...not > > > > > so much > > > > > deeper but I guess you could say > different? > > > > > > > > > > I'm was on 70mg per week schedule > of cyp and > > > I just > > > > > lowered the dosage > > > > > to 60mg last week. I'm feeling > really tired > > > but I would > > > > > say that since > > > > > I lowered my dosage i'm feeling a > bit > > > better..not much > > > > > though! > > > > > Should I be concerned? > > > > > > > > > > P.s my weight is 130 so the math...i > calculated > > > was 130 > > > > > *7*1ml=910 ng/dl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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