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Hi Tom,

I haven't used either Androgel or Testin but I have used patches which did

me no good, so I went to the shots of T. I think most guys that I have

talked do better on the Testosterone shots, I am sure that your insurance

would cover them wouldn't it. Mine does anyway. Just a thought. They

don't hurt all that much and I get much more kick out of them doing

them once a week.

Roy

Tom <B8adogg@...> wrote:

Because of limitations in my health insurance prescription drug plan, I

have just been denied coverage for Androgel, which I have used for

several years. My Doc has prescribed Testin as a substitute. Anyone

using, or having used Testin, please share your experiences with it.

Thanks! I use two tubes a day.

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I've used Tesim Gel and it was fine... my wife just didn't like the

smell and i hated how it left me feeling sticky if i applied it in the

morning after my shower (which was everyday). I'm much happier with

injections...

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> Because of limitations in my health insurance prescription drug plan,

I

> have just been denied coverage for Androgel, which I have used for

> several years. My Doc has prescribed Testin as a substitute. Anyone

> using, or having used Testin, please share your experiences with it.

> Thanks! I use two tubes a day.

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I used it went from Androgel to Testim my Dr. told me when it came out that it

worked better and it did my levels were higher. When you put it on it comes in

tubes I was dong one tube per side or 10 grams this only got me up to 600 total

T and I need to be up over 800 better at 1000. So If your on one tube put half

on one side and the other on the other side. Spread it out on your upper arms

and shoulders going down your back as far as you can reach and rub it in well.

It has a smell to it and people would ask me what kind of after shave I use.

But after a time I could not smell it any more go use to it some don't like the

smell. Don't up on a shrit until you are dry like 10 mins.

Phil

Tom <B8adogg@...> wrote:

Because of limitations in my health insurance prescription drug plan, I

have just been denied coverage for Androgel, which I have used for

several years. My Doc has prescribed Testin as a substitute. Anyone

using, or having used Testin, please share your experiences with it.

Thanks! I use two tubes a day.

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Tom <B8adogg@...> wrote: Because of limitations in my health insurance

prescription drug plan, I

have just been denied coverage for Androgel, which I have used for

several years. My Doc has prescribed Testin as a substitute. Anyone

using, or having used Testin, please share your experiences with it.

Thanks! I use two tubes a day.

I've been using Testim for a couple of years now and when my testosterone

levels are checked, they come up normal. I've had very good luck with it.

Duffy

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My T Testo was 181 on 12/30/05. I've been using Testin since January

06. My T Testo was retested on 3/9/06 and the level is 825. Doc wants

to reduce application to every other day to reduce the levels.

Maurice

Because of limitations in my health

insurance prescription drug plan, I

> have just been denied coverage for Androgel, which I have used for

> several years. My Doc has prescribed Testin as a substitute.

Anyone

> using, or having used Testin, please share your experiences with

it.

> Thanks! I use two tubes a day.

> I've been using Testim for a couple of years now and when my

testosterone levels are checked, they come up normal. I've had very

good luck with it.

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> Duffy

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No bad idea read the insert that comes with your Testim the body need to be

regular doing a T med that is ment to be used eveyday will put your body in

stress and on the days your not using your system will go nuts trying to make up

for the lost T. Also if your put the gel on then get the blood test you will

get a high false reading. Do the test first then go home and put on the Testim.

You did not say how much Testim your on. I was doing 10 grams and all my levels

got up to were 600 you had to have put on the med first and spiked the test.

Also neve lower a T med on one test labs mess up all the time. You will crash

and get set back weeks better to be safe then sorry.

Phil

vwdude00 <no_reply > wrote:

My T Testo was 181 on 12/30/05. I've been using Testin since January

06. My T Testo was retested on 3/9/06 and the level is 825. Doc wants

to reduce application to every other day to reduce the levels.

Maurice

Because of limitations in my health

insurance prescription drug plan, I

> have just been denied coverage for Androgel, which I have used for

> several years. My Doc has prescribed Testin as a substitute.

Anyone

> using, or having used Testin, please share your experiences with

it.

> Thanks! I use two tubes a day.

> I've been using Testim for a couple of years now and when my

testosterone levels are checked, they come up normal. I've had very

good luck with it.

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> Duffy

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Actually I did not apply the gel the day of the test. I'm using 5

grams a day.

Because of limitations in my health

> insurance prescription drug plan, I

> > have just been denied coverage for Androgel, which I have used

for

> > several years. My Doc has prescribed Testin as a substitute.

> Anyone

> > using, or having used Testin, please share your experiences with

> it.

> > Thanks! I use two tubes a day.

> > I've been using Testim for a couple of years now and when my

> testosterone levels are checked, they come up normal. I've had very

> good luck with it.

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> > Duffy

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Actually I did not apply the gel the day of the test. I'm using 5

grams a day.

Because of limitations in my health

> insurance prescription drug plan, I

> > have just been denied coverage for Androgel, which I have used

for

> > several years. My Doc has prescribed Testin as a substitute.

> Anyone

> > using, or having used Testin, please share your experiences with

> it.

> > Thanks! I use two tubes a day.

> > I've been using Testim for a couple of years now and when my

> testosterone levels are checked, they come up normal. I've had very

> good luck with it.

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> > Duffy

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Have the test redone and make sure you take a shower before you go for the test

if they stick the needle into a spot were you put on the testim the day before

it will give a high reading. I have never seen anyone that high on 5 grams.

Phil

vwdude00 <no_reply > wrote:

Actually I did not apply the gel the day of the test. I'm using 5

grams a day.

Because of limitations in my health

> insurance prescription drug plan, I

> > have just been denied coverage for Androgel, which I have used

for

> > several years. My Doc has prescribed Testin as a substitute.

> Anyone

> > using, or having used Testin, please share your experiences with

> it.

> > Thanks! I use two tubes a day.

> > I've been using Testim for a couple of years now and when my

> testosterone levels are checked, they come up normal. I've had very

> good luck with it.

> >

> > Duffy

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Because of limitations in my health

> insurance prescription drug plan, I

> > have just been denied coverage for Androgel, which I have used

for

> > several years. My Doc has prescribed Testin as a substitute.

> Anyone

> > using, or having used Testin, please share your experiences with

> it.

> > Thanks! I use two tubes a day.

> > I've been using Testim for a couple of years now and when my

> testosterone levels are checked, they come up normal. I've had

very

> good luck with it.

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> > Duffy

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Thanks! I'm starting with it Saturday morning (tomorrow) since I'm

now out of Androgel. Hopefully I will have the same result as you

have had.

Because of limitations in my health

> insurance prescription drug plan, I

> > have just been denied coverage for Androgel, which I have used

for

> > several years. My Doc has prescribed Testin as a substitute.

> Anyone

> > using, or having used Testin, please share your experiences with

> it.

> > Thanks! I use two tubes a day.

> > I've been using Testim for a couple of years now and when my

> testosterone levels are checked, they come up normal. I've had very

> good luck with it.

> >

> > Duffy

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I had my testostorone retested by my Primary Doctor on 23 March. The

results show that my Level is 1127 out a range of 262 - 1593.

Maurice

Because of limitations in my health

> > insurance prescription drug plan, I

> > > have just been denied coverage for Androgel, which I have used

> for

> > > several years. My Doc has prescribed Testin as a substitute.

> > Anyone

> > > using, or having used Testin, please share your experiences

with

> > it.

> > > Thanks! I use two tubes a day.

> > > I've been using Testim for a couple of years now and when my

> > testosterone levels are checked, they come up normal. I've had

very

> > good luck with it.

> > >

> > > Duffy

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Is that to high my Total T is 1087 range 262 -1593 how do you feel. I feel my

best but it is stange your levels are this high on Gels. Do you live in MI.

Phil

vwdude00 <no_reply > wrote:

I had my testostorone retested by my Primary Doctor on 23 March. The

results show that my Level is 1127 out a range of 262 - 1593.

Maurice

Because of limitations in my health

> > insurance prescription drug plan, I

> > > have just been denied coverage for Androgel, which I have used

> for

> > > several years. My Doc has prescribed Testin as a substitute.

> > Anyone

> > > using, or having used Testin, please share your experiences

with

> > it.

> > > Thanks! I use two tubes a day.

> > > I've been using Testim for a couple of years now and when my

> > testosterone levels are checked, they come up normal. I've had

very

> > good luck with it.

> > >

> > > Duffy

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> > >

> > >

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Phil,

My Urologist stated that I was responding well to the HRT. He felt

the numbers were high and want me to begin applying the gel on

alternate days. I actually feel pretty good. I'm not as tired or

moody as I had been before. I'm in MD.

Maurice

Because of limitations in my health

> > > insurance prescription drug plan, I

> > > > have just been denied coverage for Androgel, which I have

used

> > for

> > > > several years. My Doc has prescribed Testin as a substitute.

> > > Anyone

> > > > using, or having used Testin, please share your experiences

> with

> > > it.

> > > > Thanks! I use two tubes a day.

> > > > I've been using Testim for a couple of years now and when my

> > > testosterone levels are checked, they come up normal. I've had

> very

> > > good luck with it.

> > > >

> > > > Duffy

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That is a bad Idea the body likes regularity this comes from one of the best

Dr.'s for TRT Dr. . Doing gels the testosterone is stored just under the

skin going into the blood stream for 24hrs. Doing the gel every other day will

put your body in shock the day you don't use it your body will go nuts trying to

keep your levels up. Not a good Idea better to lower the dose. Read the insert

that comes with the gel. I would question your Dr.'s knowledge on TRT.

Phil

vwdude00 <no_reply > wrote:

Phil,

My Urologist stated that I was responding well to the HRT. He felt

the numbers were high and want me to begin applying the gel on

alternate days. I actually feel pretty good. I'm not as tired or

moody as I had been before. I'm in MD.

Maurice

Because of limitations in my health

> > > insurance prescription drug plan, I

> > > > have just been denied coverage for Androgel, which I have

used

> > for

> > > > several years. My Doc has prescribed Testin as a substitute.

> > > Anyone

> > > > using, or having used Testin, please share your experiences

> with

> > > it.

> > > > Thanks! I use two tubes a day.

> > > > I've been using Testim for a couple of years now and when my

> > > testosterone levels are checked, they come up normal. I've had

> very

> > > good luck with it.

> > > >

> > > > Duffy

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I began seeing a Endochronologist in May. My blood work revealed that

while on Testim my testosterone remained above 900 but the semen

analysis indicated no sperm in sample. Prior to using Testim there

was living sperm in the sample. In addition to shrinkage, my

testicles shutdown production of testosterone and sperm as a result

of using Testim. My Endo started me on Novarel to restore natural

production. Insurance covered Testim but not the Novarel. Has anyone

used Novarel? If so, what were the results?

Thanks.

Maurice

Because of limitations in my health

> > > > insurance prescription drug plan, I

> > > > > have just been denied coverage for Androgel, which I have

> used

> > > for

> > > > > several years. My Doc has prescribed Testin as a

substitute.

> > > > Anyone

> > > > > using, or having used Testin, please share your experiences

> > with

> > > > it.

> > > > > Thanks! I use two tubes a day.

> > > > > I've been using Testim for a couple of years now and when

my

> > > > testosterone levels are checked, they come up normal. I've

had

> > very

> > > > good luck with it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Duffy

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> > > > >

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Hi and welcome it is good to see someone seeing a Endo that is good at treating

low T. Dr. has a site you need to go to and read. But first if you want

to make kids you must stop TRT to build up your sperm then test it if it is good

have it frozen. Being on TRT shuts down your HPTA this means your brain checks

to see if you need more hormones and see's the Testim in your blood and stops

sending the LH and FSH messages to your testis. HCG is a stimulater of the LH

cells in your body and brain but I don't think it works to build up sperm when

on TRT. Go to this site www.allthingsmale.com and read TRT: A Recipe for

Success and his HCG update.

I have been on HCG for a yr. now but I am 62 I do T shots every 3 days 64 mgs

and the 2 days between I do 350 IU's of HCG after 22 yrs. on TRT this has me

feeling the best ever.

Phil

vwdude00 <vwdude00@...> wrote:

I began seeing a Endochronologist in May. My blood work revealed that

while on Testim my testosterone remained above 900 but the semen

analysis indicated no sperm in sample. Prior to using Testim there

was living sperm in the sample. In addition to shrinkage, my

testicles shutdown production of testosterone and sperm as a result

of using Testim. My Endo started me on Novarel to restore natural

production. Insurance covered Testim but not the Novarel. Has anyone

used Novarel? If so, what were the results?

Thanks.

Maurice

Because of limitations in my health

> > > > insurance prescription drug plan, I

> > > > > have just been denied coverage for Androgel, which I have

> used

> > > for

> > > > > several years. My Doc has prescribed Testin as a

substitute.

> > > > Anyone

> > > > > using, or having used Testin, please share your experiences

> > with

> > > > it.

> > > > > Thanks! I use two tubes a day.

> > > > > I've been using Testim for a couple of years now and when

my

> > > > testosterone levels are checked, they come up normal. I've

had

> > very

> > > > good luck with it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Duffy

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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