Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Roy if your this worried about this go give a pint of blood. Phil Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote: Hi Guys, I want to know what kind of test to take to find out how thick my blood is. What do you call it? Is it something like protocrit (sp) I don't want it to get too thick and want to test that next time I go to Doctor Aug. 25th Anyone know this answer? Roy __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Hi again, I just posted about my blood donation Phil. By the way there was no listing of CBC on the original set of test. I didn't know about it. You said you were away over at one time and never did have thick blood. Then you stand by your first statements of staying with 80mg shots? Did you read the post that I mentioned the two comparisons of my last two blood draws. How one was in the middle of my range and the other was the day of my shot? The similarities of 1040 and 1080 up a little even though I drew just before my shot? Doesn't that mean that I would spike much higher right after a shot? Thanks Phil, Roy philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: Roy if your this worried about this go give a pint of blood. Phil Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote: Hi Guys, I want to know what kind of test to take to find out how thick my blood is. What do you call it? Is it something like protocrit (sp) I don't want it to get too thick and want to test that next time I go to Doctor Aug. 25th Anyone know this answer? Roy __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Here is a link on this it has a chart showing where your T levels go with a 200mg. shot I know we are not doing 200mg shots but it gives you some Idea of what we are talking about. If your next Test comes back still high then start to lower your dose. But do it slow at your age I would hate to see you crash like Wayne did. If your next test comes in high cut the dose down to 70mgs until your next test and so on. When you see this link you will see gels have a spick for the first 4 hrs everyday after you put it on. Also high E levels will make blood to thick. http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6413 & d=1139879356 Phil Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote: Hi again, I just posted about my blood donation Phil. By the way there was no listing of CBC on the original set of test. I didn't know about it. You said you were away over at one time and never did have thick blood. Then you stand by your first statements of staying with 80mg shots? Did you read the post that I mentioned the two comparisons of my last two blood draws. How one was in the middle of my range and the other was the day of my shot? The similarities of 1040 and 1080 up a little even though I drew just before my shot? Doesn't that mean that I would spike much higher right after a shot? Thanks Phil, Roy philip georgian wrote: Roy if your this worried about this go give a pint of blood. Phil Roy wrote: Hi Guys, I want to know what kind of test to take to find out how thick my blood is. What do you call it? Is it something like protocrit (sp) I don't want it to get too thick and want to test that next time I go to Doctor Aug. 25th Anyone know this answer? Roy __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 Hey Roy - one indicator is the hematocrit test. Typical values are in the 45 range. If you are high when compared to the reference range, donating blood will help and taking an aspirin a day (if you can take aspirin) will also thin the blood. Also drinking the right amount of water each day will help. Arkansas Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote: Hi Guys, I want to know what kind of test to take to find out how thick my blood is. What do you call it? Is it something like protocrit (sp) I don't want it to get too thick and want to test that next time I go to Doctor Aug. 25th Anyone know this answer? Roy __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 Hi Dan, I have that one down and Phil said it is a CBC test whatever that means. I was scheduled to go to the VA doctor the 25th but I will have to change that schedule as my Son is having a benign tumor removed from his right lung on the 22nd of Aug. So we want to be there for him so see that everything goes OK .He is 48 so he is no young chicken for that kind of surgery. We just thank the Good Lord it is benign too. They are going to remove the center lobe of his lung and that is serious surgery. Will re-schedule our appointment for the VA. I did call them and they said that was included in my blood work anyway, so I am OK there. They won't let me donate blood because I have heart disease and even the Red Cross won't take it. I do take one aspirin a day and have for a long time now. I usually cut or scrape my arms and legs quite often and I loose a lot of blood then, does that count? :-)) Thanks Dan, Roy Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> wrote: Hey Roy - one indicator is the hematocrit test. Typical values are in the 45 range. If you are high when compared to the reference range, donating blood will help and taking an aspirin a day (if you can take aspirin) will also thin the blood. Also drinking the right amount of water each day will help. Arkansas Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote: Hi Guys, I want to know what kind of test to take to find out how thick my blood is. What do you call it? Is it something like protocrit (sp) I don't want it to get too thick and want to test that next time I go to Doctor Aug. 25th Anyone know this answer? Roy __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 Hi Roy and Dan PMFJI Firstly - Every good wish for your son and his operation! I raised this matter of high Haemacrit and TRT with my endocrinologist this year as I was moving to Nebido. He said that they had people needing this procedure to reduce the blood thickness and so if my Haemacrit level rises again with TRT they will respond. Why not ask you Endocrinology Department first rather than the Red Cross etc? I think this is a very important matter for all of us on TRT and so if anyone has difficulty in getting appropriate treatments we should even consider approaching ACCE (USA) and Endocrine Society her in the Uk to get good practice for us all. Please keep us informed. Kind regards, On 6 Aug 2006 at 14:30, Roy wrote: > Hi Dan, > I have that one down and Phil said it is a CBC test whatever that means. > I was scheduled to go to the VA doctor the 25th but I will have to change > that schedule as my Son is having a benign tumor removed from his > right lung on the 22nd of Aug. So we want to be there for him so see > that everything goes OK .He is 48 so he is no young chicken for that > kind of surgery. We just thank the Good Lord it is benign too. They > are going to remove the center lobe of his lung and that is serious > surgery. Will re-schedule our appointment for the VA. > > I did call them and they said that was included in my blood work > anyway, so I am OK there. They won't let me donate blood because > I have heart disease and even the Red Cross won't take it. I do take > one aspirin a day and have for a long time now. I usually cut or > scrape my arms and legs quite often and I loose a lot of blood then, > does that count? :-)) > Thanks Dan, > Roy > > > Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> wrote: > Hey Roy - one indicator is the hematocrit test. Typical values are in the 45 range. If you are high when compared to the reference range, donating blood will help and taking an aspirin a day (if you can take aspirin) will also thin the blood. Also drinking the right amount of water each day will help. > > Arkansas > > Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote: > Hi Guys, > I want to know what kind of test to take to find out how thick > my blood is. What do you call it? Is it something like protocrit > (sp) I don't want it to get too thick and want to test that next > time I go to Doctor Aug. 25th Anyone know this answer? > Roy > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 Thanks , I so hope everything goes ok with our son, he is our one and only son. As to the hematoacrit test, guess your doctor didn't tell you what they would treat you with if it was high did they? How are they going to respond? My doctor also told me not to try to give blood because I was taking aspirin is all I know. My Endo didn't even know that high T caused thick blood, no foolin he didn't so you see what we are up against here. Anyway I am going to have the test sometime soon as I said I had to postpone my Aug 25 for my Son's operation. Thanks for caring , much appreciated. Regards, Roy Randle <peter_randle@...> wrote: Hi Roy and Dan PMFJI Firstly - Every good wish for your son and his operation! I raised this matter of high Haemacrit and TRT with my endocrinologist this year as I was moving to Nebido. He said that they had people needing this procedure to reduce the blood thickness and so if my Haemacrit level rises again with TRT they will respond. Why not ask you Endocrinology Department first rather than the Red Cross etc? I think this is a very important matter for all of us on TRT and so if anyone has difficulty in getting appropriate treatments we should even consider approaching ACCE (USA) and Endocrine Society her in the Uk to get good practice for us all. Please keep us informed. Kind regards, On 6 Aug 2006 at 14:30, Roy wrote: > Hi Dan, > I have that one down and Phil said it is a CBC test whatever that means. > I was scheduled to go to the VA doctor the 25th but I will have to change > that schedule as my Son is having a benign tumor removed from his > right lung on the 22nd of Aug. So we want to be there for him so see > that everything goes OK .He is 48 so he is no young chicken for that > kind of surgery. We just thank the Good Lord it is benign too. They > are going to remove the center lobe of his lung and that is serious > surgery. Will re-schedule our appointment for the VA. > > I did call them and they said that was included in my blood work > anyway, so I am OK there. They won't let me donate blood because > I have heart disease and even the Red Cross won't take it. I do take > one aspirin a day and have for a long time now. I usually cut or > scrape my arms and legs quite often and I loose a lot of blood then, > does that count? :-)) > Thanks Dan, > Roy > > > Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> wrote: > Hey Roy - one indicator is the hematocrit test. Typical values are in the 45 range. If you are high when compared to the reference range, donating blood will help and taking an aspirin a day (if you can take aspirin) will also thin the blood. Also drinking the right amount of water each day will help. > > Arkansas > > Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote: > Hi Guys, > I want to know what kind of test to take to find out how thick > my blood is. What do you call it? Is it something like protocrit > (sp) I don't want it to get too thick and want to test that next > time I go to Doctor Aug. 25th Anyone know this answer? > Roy > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Hey Roy - Sorry to hear about your son. He is my age. Was he a smoker? What do they think caused the tumor? I do hope everything goes well. As long as you are drinking 64 ozs of water each day with your aspirin, that is about all you can do. If you bleed easily when you cut yourself, that should be a pretty good indicator that you are OK. Water intake really makes a big difference. How are you feeling lately? Arkansas Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote: Hi Dan, I have that one down and Phil said it is a CBC test whatever that means. I was scheduled to go to the VA doctor the 25th but I will have to change that schedule as my Son is having a benign tumor removed from his right lung on the 22nd of Aug. So we want to be there for him so see that everything goes OK .He is 48 so he is no young chicken for that kind of surgery. We just thank the Good Lord it is benign too. They are going to remove the center lobe of his lung and that is serious surgery. Will re-schedule our appointment for the VA. I did call them and they said that was included in my blood work anyway, so I am OK there. They won't let me donate blood because I have heart disease and even the Red Cross won't take it. I do take one aspirin a day and have for a long time now. I usually cut or scrape my arms and legs quite often and I loose a lot of blood then, does that count? :-)) Thanks Dan, Roy Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> wrote: Hey Roy - one indicator is the hematocrit test. Typical values are in the 45 range. If you are high when compared to the reference range, donating blood will help and taking an aspirin a day (if you can take aspirin) will also thin the blood. Also drinking the right amount of water each day will help. Arkansas Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote: Hi Guys, I want to know what kind of test to take to find out how thick my blood is. What do you call it? Is it something like protocrit (sp) I don't want it to get too thick and want to test that next time I go to Doctor Aug. 25th Anyone know this answer? Roy __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Hey Dan - Thank you. See I told you guys that I was old enough to be your father. No he never had a cigarette in his mouth. They have no idea what caused it, but we are all thankful it is benign though. They are going to remove the center lobe of the rigfht lung completely when they go in. I guess I drink a lot of water every day. I too think that my blood is pretty thin yet, just scraped my wrist yesterday and it bled down to my hand so I am hopeful that it is thin. I will know for sure after my next doctors appointment which has been moved up to Sept.21 now. By the way I still feel great except today after spending a couple of days with a sore on my gums I went to the dentist and he told me I have an abscessed tooth and I need root canal, which doesn't make me very happy since I just had that done on another one last March. Such is life---- They only cost about $1200.00 per tooth---Wowee! Thanks for caring Dan, Roy Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> wrote: Hey Roy - Sorry to hear about your son. He is my age. Was he a smoker? What do they think caused the tumor? I do hope everything goes well. As long as you are drinking 64 ozs of water each day with your aspirin, that is about all you can do. If you bleed easily when you cut yourself, that should be a pretty good indicator that you are OK. Water intake really makes a big difference. How are you feeling lately? Arkansas Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote: Hi Dan, I have that one down and Phil said it is a CBC test whatever that means. I was scheduled to go to the VA doctor the 25th but I will have to change that schedule as my Son is having a benign tumor removed from his right lung on the 22nd of Aug. So we want to be there for him so see that everything goes OK .He is 48 so he is no young chicken for that kind of surgery. We just thank the Good Lord it is benign too. They are going to remove the center lobe of his lung and that is serious surgery. Will re-schedule our appointment for the VA. I did call them and they said that was included in my blood work anyway, so I am OK there. They won't let me donate blood because I have heart disease and even the Red Cross won't take it. I do take one aspirin a day and have for a long time now. I usually cut or scrape my arms and legs quite often and I loose a lot of blood then, does that count? :-)) Thanks Dan, Roy Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> wrote: Hey Roy - one indicator is the hematocrit test. Typical values are in the 45 range. If you are high when compared to the reference range, donating blood will help and taking an aspirin a day (if you can take aspirin) will also thin the blood. Also drinking the right amount of water each day will help. Arkansas Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote: Hi Guys, I want to know what kind of test to take to find out how thick my blood is. What do you call it? Is it something like protocrit (sp) I don't want it to get too thick and want to test that next time I go to Doctor Aug. 25th Anyone know this answer? Roy __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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