Progress report:

[Guest guest]

Ok its been about a year 1/2 since I started TRT

I started with the patches, I had a good level around 700 and felt

pretty good but had severe problems with adhesion of the patches and

skin irritation. During the summer months when I was active outside

they kept falling off so this was not working for me. On patches for 3

months.

Switched to gels, I couldn't get my numbers above 400 I felt like I

was on a roller coaster up and down every day, I kept moving my dose

up but nothing changed. On gel 9 months.

Switched to injectable started at 100mg moved up to 125mg a week

levels have stabilized at around 700 slight roller coaster toward end

of week at beginning took about 3 months and one increase in dose and

am now symptom free and feeling great, energy levels are really good

sleep good, depression good my wife and I have seen a big difference

after switching to injectable T.VERY VERY HAPPY!!!

Additional meds:

HCG 300iu 2X week, I have been taking HCG since I started TRT and have

noticed NO atrophy. I have been following Dr. s recommendation

regarding HCG.

Arimidex .5mg every 3rd day, I have been taking this for the last

year, my E2 levels where 50 and are now stable at 30, I have no

adverse sexual side affects, but I did when my levels where at 50 so

this has worked out good for me.

Thyroid 2grains (120mg) I was taking levoxl (175mcg) and am now taking

Armour over the last month, this is still in flux in adjusting my dose

gradually.

IsoCort (HC) 40mg I just started taking this over the last month due

to the change in thyroid medication in order to support my adrenals,

and WOW I noticed a BIG change in how I feel, I use to have major

hypoglycemic episodes when I was stressed doctors for years would tell

me it was anxiety and take a xanax after starting the IsoCort I have

yet to have any of these episodes.

I understand that Hypothyroidism causes weak adrenals but I wonder

how much hypogonadism affects it as well?

Omega 3 I started this 4 months ago and it has reduced my

triglycerides by more than 60 points!

In the past year 1/2 I have taken over control of my health from my

doctors who have failed me in the last ten years. I'm feeling better

than I have in a decade, I'm seeing my cholesterol starting to go

down, I'm starting to be able to loose weight and keep it off, I have

improved my mood and depression by 100%

My wife who I married ten years ago when all of my health problems

started to become more noticeable keeps telling me she feels she has a

new husband (and this is not in a bad way)are relationship (that was

previously shaky) has turned around 180 degrees my relationship with

my step-son has also done the same.

I guess the point I'm trying to convey is don't ever give up and take

control over your own life, if you don't feel good keep searching for

the answers don't take some doctors word for it EVER.

[Guest guest]

I feel you have a good handle on this but doing 40mgs of Isocort is a lot each

little pill has 2.5 mgs of Cortisol in them the rec. dose is 8 pills = 20mgs of

Cortisol are you saying your taking 16 pills of Isocort if you are you would do

better to switch to Cortef doing up to 25 mgs a day. We have no Idea what is in

Isocort there is Cortisol but it has more it's sheep glands.

Here is a link to how I got started treating my Adrenals and Thyroid I had to

go dam slow because my pituitary does not send the messages to my Adrenals or

Thyroid to make enough of the hormones.

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=24

ozzmed <ozzmed@...> wrote:

Ok its been about a year 1/2 since I started TRT

I started with the patches, I had a good level around 700 and felt

pretty good but had severe problems with adhesion of the patches and

skin irritation. During the summer months when I was active outside

they kept falling off so this was not working for me. On patches for 3

months.

Switched to gels, I couldn't get my numbers above 400 I felt like I

was on a roller coaster up and down every day, I kept moving my dose

up but nothing changed. On gel 9 months.

Switched to injectable started at 100mg moved up to 125mg a week

levels have stabilized at around 700 slight roller coaster toward end

of week at beginning took about 3 months and one increase in dose and

am now symptom free and feeling great, energy levels are really good

sleep good, depression good my wife and I have seen a big difference

after switching to injectable T.VERY VERY HAPPY!!!

Additional meds:

HCG 300iu 2X week, I have been taking HCG since I started TRT and have

noticed NO atrophy. I have been following Dr. s recommendation

regarding HCG.

Arimidex .5mg every 3rd day, I have been taking this for the last

year, my E2 levels where 50 and are now stable at 30, I have no

adverse sexual side affects, but I did when my levels where at 50 so

this has worked out good for me.

Thyroid 2grains (120mg) I was taking levoxl (175mcg) and am now taking

Armour over the last month, this is still in flux in adjusting my dose

gradually.

IsoCort (HC) 40mg I just started taking this over the last month due

to the change in thyroid medication in order to support my adrenals,

and WOW I noticed a BIG change in how I feel, I use to have major

hypoglycemic episodes when I was stressed doctors for years would tell

me it was anxiety and take a xanax after starting the IsoCort I have

yet to have any of these episodes.

I understand that Hypothyroidism causes weak adrenals but I wonder

how much hypogonadism affects it as well?

Omega 3 I started this 4 months ago and it has reduced my

triglycerides by more than 60 points!

In the past year 1/2 I have taken over control of my health from my

doctors who have failed me in the last ten years. I'm feeling better

than I have in a decade, I'm seeing my cholesterol starting to go

down, I'm starting to be able to loose weight and keep it off, I have

improved my mood and depression by 100%

My wife who I married ten years ago when all of my health problems

started to become more noticeable keeps telling me she feels she has a

new husband (and this is not in a bad way)are relationship (that was

previously shaky) has turned around 180 degrees my relationship with

my step-son has also done the same.

I guess the point I'm trying to convey is don't ever give up and take

control over your own life, if you don't feel good keep searching for

the answers don't take some doctors word for it EVER.

Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. "

Phil

---------------------------------

Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.

Play Sims Stories at Games.

[Guest guest]

NO I'm not taking 16 pills... Each pill of Iso-Cort =5mg so I'm taking 8

pills a day or 20mg cortisol supposedly. I have an appointment with my

doctor tomorrow and am going to ask him about switching to generic cortef

/(HC) is their any real difference between cortef/generic HC?

I have been treating my thyroid problem for the last 10 years with T4 only

meds... but just switched to Armour a month ago, I'm taking it slow starting

at 2 grains and have just moved up to 3 I found it very difficult to adjust

to the Armour at first without the Iso-Cort this is why I started taking it,

I'm hoping to just have to use some (HC) till my thyroid numbers are back to

where they should be using armour and my adrenals have adjusted to the

change. I have been watching my temps... and have waited till they

stabilized before moving my dose up and will keep doing this until I'm

optimized.

On 10/15/07, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

>

> I feel you have a good handle on this but doing 40mgs of Isocort is a

> lot each little pill has 2.5 mgs of Cortisol in them the rec. dose is 8

> pills = 20mgs of Cortisol are you saying your taking 16 pills of Isocort if

> you are you would do better to switch to Cortef doing up to 25 mgs a day. We

> have no Idea what is in Isocort there is Cortisol but it has more it's sheep

> glands.

> Here is a link to how I got started treating my Adrenals and Thyroid I had

> to go dam slow because my pituitary does not send the messages to my

> Adrenals or Thyroid to make enough of the hormones.

> http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=24

>

>

> ozzmed <ozzmed@... <ozzmed%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> Ok its been about a year 1/2 since I started TRT

>

> I started with the patches, I had a good level around 700 and felt

> pretty good but had severe problems with adhesion of the patches and

> skin irritation. During the summer months when I was active outside

> they kept falling off so this was not working for me. On patches for 3

> months.

>

> Switched to gels, I couldn't get my numbers above 400 I felt like I

> was on a roller coaster up and down every day, I kept moving my dose

> up but nothing changed. On gel 9 months.

>

> Switched to injectable started at 100mg moved up to 125mg a week

> levels have stabilized at around 700 slight roller coaster toward end

> of week at beginning took about 3 months and one increase in dose and

> am now symptom free and feeling great, energy levels are really good

> sleep good, depression good my wife and I have seen a big difference

> after switching to injectable T.VERY VERY HAPPY!!!

>

> Additional meds:

> HCG 300iu 2X week, I have been taking HCG since I started TRT and have

> noticed NO atrophy. I have been following Dr. s recommendation

> regarding HCG.

>

> Arimidex .5mg every 3rd day, I have been taking this for the last

> year, my E2 levels where 50 and are now stable at 30, I have no

> adverse sexual side affects, but I did when my levels where at 50 so

> this has worked out good for me.

>

> Thyroid 2grains (120mg) I was taking levoxl (175mcg) and am now taking

> Armour over the last month, this is still in flux in adjusting my dose

> gradually.

>

> IsoCort (HC) 40mg I just started taking this over the last month due

> to the change in thyroid medication in order to support my adrenals,

> and WOW I noticed a BIG change in how I feel, I use to have major

> hypoglycemic episodes when I was stressed doctors for years would tell

> me it was anxiety and take a xanax after starting the IsoCort I have

> yet to have any of these episodes.

>

> I understand that Hypothyroidism causes weak adrenals but I wonder

> how much hypogonadism affects it as well?

>

> Omega 3 I started this 4 months ago and it has reduced my

> triglycerides by more than 60 points!

>

> In the past year 1/2 I have taken over control of my health from my

> doctors who have failed me in the last ten years. I'm feeling better

> than I have in a decade, I'm seeing my cholesterol starting to go

> down, I'm starting to be able to loose weight and keep it off, I have

> improved my mood and depression by 100%

>

> My wife who I married ten years ago when all of my health problems

> started to become more noticeable keeps telling me she feels she has a

> new husband (and this is not in a bad way)are relationship (that was

> previously shaky) has turned around 180 degrees my relationship with

> my step-son has also done the same.

>

> I guess the point I'm trying to convey is don't ever give up and take

> control over your own life, if you don't feel good keep searching for

> the answers don't take some doctors word for it EVER.

>

> Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you

> see. "

> Phil

>

> ---------------------------------

> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.

> Play Sims Stories at Games.

>

>