Re: Had a talk with the girlfriend and wanted to share.

[Guest guest]

That is great news Elliot and you need to know that to most women size is not

that big a deal. Good luck with her and go slow.

Phil

Elliot <elliotbkr@...> wrote:

Morning Gentlemen. Something weird just happened. I just finish

talking with my distant girlfriend and we were talking about our

futures and stuff. I have her heart! She called me baby but blah... I

didn't care for that term, but it's OK for now. I finally have my

first girlfriend! Yea, yea it came blah late at 29 but I'm still in

stock.

I indirectly went around my whole size problem, the same problem that

has made me very precluded and a virgin. I wanted to paste the side

effects from having primary hypogonadism since BIRTH to her, but I

just explain the best I could.

If folks don't know, I didn't fully go thru puberty and have suffered

from some many different side effects of testiclar failure. One of the

primary side effects is abnormal penis and testes. Me about 5 and half.

So, I just explained a bit about PH and then typed my size cause after

I indirectly went around it, she caught on and asked many times.

I knew she didn't want to be with me now given she has been with large

guys prior. She stated, " she still wants to be with me and her

feelings for me didn't change " .

I was in stock. It still hasn't hit me yet but I may finally have a

victory out of life. May be her support can help me get pass never

being happy in my life. May be her support can get me pass my health

issues (added is high blood pressure), and may be even at this late in

life, I can become a success.

If I can pleasure her with what I have, I may can feel human.

Sorry gentlemen and take care.

[Guest guest]

Aloha Elliot! - Good for you, man!!! I've been telling you since

the VERY BEGINNING that 5 and a half inches isn't SMALL for a penis.

You are riught smack dab in the middle of the average range

(according to most studies). I read one yesterday on WebMD that only

reinforced that fact.

One thing though, MY FRIEND. I just care about your feelings and I

think by now, you KNOW that. I hope so!

Don't go and put ALL YOUR HOPES AND DREAMS INTO THIS ONE WOMAN!!!!

I know, I know...easy for Mr. 99 women to say, right? But she could

turn out to be a real mind screw and as us guys learn in life,

females learn EARLY how to " open doors with only their vagina's " .

No OFFENCE to the females out there!!!! But Even some females KNOW

of some other females that do that and it can rip your heart right

out of your chest! THEN, as if that weren't enough, if she's THAT

KIND...she'll take her foot and stomp on it a few times and tease

you and then rip your heart out again except instead of stomping on

it, she'll mash it into little pieces!

I haver NOTHING but the best of luck, wishes and thoughts for you

and your new lady-friend. I will (I HAVE ALREADY!) pray that she

is " the right woman " for you.

this is GREAT!!!! I can't wait until you actually see and meet her.

When do you think that will happen? Don't worry or be too anxious

about the " sex " part. My first time was NOT the best because I was

so curious.

>

> Morning Gentlemen. Something weird just happened. I just finish

> talking with my distant girlfriend and we were talking about our

> futures and stuff. I have her heart! She called me baby but

blah... I

> didn't care for that term, but it's OK for now. I finally have my

> first girlfriend! Yea, yea it came blah late at 29 but I'm still in

> stock.

>

> I indirectly went around my whole size problem, the same problem

that

> has made me very precluded and a virgin. I wanted to paste the side

> effects from having primary hypogonadism since BIRTH to her, but I

> just explain the best I could.

>

> If folks don't know, I didn't fully go thru puberty and have

suffered

> from some many different side effects of testiclar failure. One of

the

> primary side effects is abnormal penis and testes. Me about 5 and

half.

>

> So, I just explained a bit about PH and then typed my size cause

after

> I indirectly went around it, she caught on and asked many times.

>

>

> I knew she didn't want to be with me now given she has been with

large

> guys prior. She stated, " she still wants to be with me and her

> feelings for me didn't change " .

>

> I was in stock. It still hasn't hit me yet but I may finally have a

> victory out of life. May be her support can help me get pass never

> being happy in my life. May be her support can get me pass my

health

> issues (added is high blood pressure), and may be even at this

late in

> life, I can become a success.

>

> If I can pleasure her with what I have, I may can feel human.

>

> Sorry gentlemen and take care.

>

[Guest guest]

Aloha Wayne and thanks for the words. I totally understand on continuing to use

caution. I am not putting everything and all my hopes into her. To me, I'm in a

win win situation. If things go south only due on her part, I'll simply walk

away. At least I know I was finally in a relationship now I can take that

sensation toward the next gal.

In a few months she should be coming here. If not, I will go to her. Gives me a

chance to save and stuff. We talked about being together long term and moving to

a netural state.

The sex part I am worried about. I don't want to show my inexperience. I should

have paid more attention to all that porn I have watched... May be it will come

back to me; the different positions and stuff. Have no idea how to go

" downtown " , But I'm sure she will assist. I worry about her going " downtown " on

me, and me just releasing even before we have inter-course.

I should be able to squeese another round after five mintues due to the T I'm

taking if that occurs. It should be very interesting in the coming months for me

leading up toward meeting her. I'm on a diet and I must use this relationship

and her, to over-come the depression and social withdrawn I only know.

Hawaiian Wayne <wayne_in_hawaii27@...> wrote:

Aloha Elliot! - Good for you, man!!! I've been telling you since

the VERY BEGINNING that 5 and a half inches isn't SMALL for a penis.

You are riught smack dab in the middle of the average range

(according to most studies). I read one yesterday on WebMD that only

reinforced that fact.

One thing though, MY FRIEND. I just care about your feelings and I

think by now, you KNOW that. I hope so!

Don't go and put ALL YOUR HOPES AND DREAMS INTO THIS ONE WOMAN!!!!

I know, I know...easy for Mr. 99 women to say, right? But she could

turn out to be a real mind screw and as us guys learn in life,

females learn EARLY how to " open doors with only their vagina's " .

No OFFENCE to the females out there!!!! But Even some females KNOW

of some other females that do that and it can rip your heart right

out of your chest! THEN, as if that weren't enough, if she's THAT

KIND...she'll take her foot and stomp on it a few times and tease

you and then rip your heart out again except instead of stomping on

it, she'll mash it into little pieces!

I haver NOTHING but the best of luck, wishes and thoughts for you

and your new lady-friend. I will (I HAVE ALREADY!) pray that she

is " the right woman " for you.

this is GREAT!!!! I can't wait until you actually see and meet her.

When do you think that will happen? Don't worry or be too anxious

about the " sex " part. My first time was NOT the best because I was

so curious.

>

> Morning Gentlemen. Something weird just happened. I just finish

> talking with my distant girlfriend and we were talking about our

> futures and stuff. I have her heart! She called me baby but

blah... I

> didn't care for that term, but it's OK for now. I finally have my

> first girlfriend! Yea, yea it came blah late at 29 but I'm still in

> stock.

>

> I indirectly went around my whole size problem, the same problem

that

> has made me very precluded and a virgin. I wanted to paste the side

> effects from having primary hypogonadism since BIRTH to her, but I

> just explain the best I could.

>

> If folks don't know, I didn't fully go thru puberty and have

suffered

> from some many different side effects of testiclar failure. One of

the

> primary side effects is abnormal penis and testes. Me about 5 and

half.

>

> So, I just explained a bit about PH and then typed my size cause

after

> I indirectly went around it, she caught on and asked many times.

>

>

> I knew she didn't want to be with me now given she has been with

large

> guys prior. She stated, " she still wants to be with me and her

> feelings for me didn't change " .

>

> I was in stock. It still hasn't hit me yet but I may finally have a

> victory out of life. May be her support can help me get pass never

> being happy in my life. May be her support can get me pass my

health

> issues (added is high blood pressure), and may be even at this

late in

> life, I can become a success.

>

> If I can pleasure her with what I have, I may can feel human.

>

> Sorry gentlemen and take care.

>

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[Guest guest]

Elliot...most women are not gonna judge you harshly based on lousy

initial sex. I'm sure she'd be willing to assist or help you and have

fun doing it. If you release too soon then so what? There will be

another time afterward. I've had plenty of awkward encounters that

either led to a great relationship, or just plain great sex. Besides,

I've found that women more than anything just want to feel wanted and

loved.

> >

> > Morning Gentlemen. Something weird just happened. I just finish

> > talking with my distant girlfriend and we were talking about our

> > futures and stuff. I have her heart! She called me baby but

> blah... I

> > didn't care for that term, but it's OK for now. I finally have my

> > first girlfriend! Yea, yea it came blah late at 29 but I'm still in

> > stock.

> >

> > I indirectly went around my whole size problem, the same problem

> that

> > has made me very precluded and a virgin. I wanted to paste the side

> > effects from having primary hypogonadism since BIRTH to her, but I

> > just explain the best I could.

> >

> > If folks don't know, I didn't fully go thru puberty and have

> suffered

> > from some many different side effects of testiclar failure. One of

> the

> > primary side effects is abnormal penis and testes. Me about 5 and

> half.

> >

> > So, I just explained a bit about PH and then typed my size cause

> after

> > I indirectly went around it, she caught on and asked many times.

> >

> >

> > I knew she didn't want to be with me now given she has been with

> large

> > guys prior. She stated, " she still wants to be with me and her

> > feelings for me didn't change " .

> >

> > I was in stock. It still hasn't hit me yet but I may finally have a

> > victory out of life. May be her support can help me get pass never

> > being happy in my life. May be her support can get me pass my

> health

> > issues (added is high blood pressure), and may be even at this

> late in

> > life, I can become a success.

> >

> > If I can pleasure her with what I have, I may can feel human.

> >

> > Sorry gentlemen and take care.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hey Elliot! - And ? I couldn't have said it much better myself!

Remember Elliot, just show her your love and devotion and always

keep your sense of HUMOR. Sometimes doing things that you OR EVEN

SHE may not have done/tried can wind up having the two of you

laughing in each others arms! It happens more often than most think.

The ONLY THING that kind of " worries me " is your concern

about " remembering the porn " . No, no, no, no.....don't go there.

Those people are either being PAID to do the " offhand " things they

do or one is paid and the other just needs a fix....it isn't the

cleanest business in the world and believe it or not, there are NOT

that many women that enjoy ANAL sex. Besides, that's a topic for

much later in your RELATIONSHIP(!) with her (unless SHE brings it

up!). But honestly, people in porn are usually doing just " SEX " and

NOT MAKING LOVE. You want to do the latter more than the former (at

least you want to give her that impression, at first!-LOL!)

I so happy for you I could pop! Really. I hope you still have my

email addy. Don't be afraid to use it. I really was hoping to be

good friends with you and since Vornan reminded me that I'm pretty

much " cured " for now, I don't stop by here that often anymore.

I'm glad I did today though! You're the MAN!

Aloha for now,

Hawaiian Wayne

> > >

> > > Morning Gentlemen. Something weird just happened. I just

finish

> > > talking with my distant girlfriend and we were talking about

our

> > > futures and stuff. I have her heart! She called me baby but

> > blah... I

> > > didn't care for that term, but it's OK for now. I finally

have my

> > > first girlfriend! Yea, yea it came blah late at 29 but I'm

still in

> > > stock.

> > >

> > > I indirectly went around my whole size problem, the same

problem

> > that

> > > has made me very precluded and a virgin. I wanted to paste

the side

> > > effects from having primary hypogonadism since BIRTH to her,

but I

> > > just explain the best I could.

> > >

> > > If folks don't know, I didn't fully go thru puberty and have

> > suffered

> > > from some many different side effects of testiclar failure.

One of

> > the

> > > primary side effects is abnormal penis and testes. Me about 5

and

> > half.

> > >

> > > So, I just explained a bit about PH and then typed my size

cause

> > after

> > > I indirectly went around it, she caught on and asked many

times.

> > >

> > >

> > > I knew she didn't want to be with me now given she has been

with

> > large

> > > guys prior. She stated, " she still wants to be with me and her

> > > feelings for me didn't change " .

> > >

> > > I was in stock. It still hasn't hit me yet but I may finally

have a

> > > victory out of life. May be her support can help me get pass

never

> > > being happy in my life. May be her support can get me pass my

> > health

> > > issues (added is high blood pressure), and may be even at

this

> > late in

> > > life, I can become a success.

> > >

> > > If I can pleasure her with what I have, I may can feel human.

> > >

> > > Sorry gentlemen and take care.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Elliot,

If it is consolation to you I am only 51/2 inches too. They tell me that is

about

average you know, bigger isn't always better!.

You forget that size doesn't amount to much where women are doncerned. They

are only intereested in how you use it boy!

I have been married to a wonderful woman for over 60 years and she has

never complained about my size. Oh if you would like to make it a little

bigger

you could use a pump and ring. I can get mine up to 7 " with that contraption.

Good luck brother and have many happy years,

My blessings to youi

Roy

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

That is great news Elliot and you need to know that to most women size

is not that big a deal. Good luck with her and go slow.

Phil

Elliot <elliotbkr@...> wrote:

Morning Gentlemen. Something weird just happened. I just finish

talking with my distant girlfriend and we were talking about our

futures and stuff. I have her heart! She called me baby but blah... I

didn't care for that term, but it's OK for now. I finally have my

first girlfriend! Yea, yea it came blah late at 29 but I'm still in

stock.

I indirectly went around my whole size problem, the same problem that

has made me very precluded and a virgin. I wanted to paste the side

effects from having primary hypogonadism since BIRTH to her, but I

just explain the best I could.

If folks don't know, I didn't fully go thru puberty and have suffered

from some many different side effects of testiclar failure. One of the

primary side effects is abnormal penis and testes. Me about 5 and half.

So, I just explained a bit about PH and then typed my size cause after

I indirectly went around it, she caught on and asked many times.

I knew she didn't want to be with me now given she has been with large

guys prior. She stated, " she still wants to be with me and her

feelings for me didn't change " .

I was in stock. It still hasn't hit me yet but I may finally have a

victory out of life. May be her support can help me get pass never

being happy in my life. May be her support can get me pass my health

issues (added is high blood pressure), and may be even at this late in

life, I can become a success.

If I can pleasure her with what I have, I may can feel human.

Sorry gentlemen and take care.

[Guest guest]

>

I would be honest with her. Tell her you are a virgin & don't want

to mess it up the first time.

Ask her to show you what to do.

> Morning Gentlemen. Something weird just happened. I just finish

> talking with my distant girlfriend and we were talking about our

> futures and stuff. I have her heart! She called me baby but blah...

I

> didn't care for that term, but it's OK for now. I finally have my

> first girlfriend! Yea, yea it came blah late at 29 but I'm still in

> stock.

>

> I indirectly went around my whole size problem, the same problem

that

> has made me very precluded and a virgin. I wanted to paste the side

> effects from having primary hypogonadism since BIRTH to her, but I

> just explain the best I could.

>

> If folks don't know, I didn't fully go thru puberty and have

suffered

> from some many different side effects of testiclar failure. One of

the

> primary side effects is abnormal penis and testes. Me about 5 and

half.

>

> So, I just explained a bit about PH and then typed my size cause

after

> I indirectly went around it, she caught on and asked many times.

>

>

> I knew she didn't want to be with me now given she has been with

large

> guys prior. She stated, " she still wants to be with me and her

> feelings for me didn't change " .

>

> I was in stock. It still hasn't hit me yet but I may finally have a

> victory out of life. May be her support can help me get pass never

> being happy in my life. May be her support can get me pass my health

> issues (added is high blood pressure), and may be even at this late

in

> life, I can become a success.

>

> If I can pleasure her with what I have, I may can feel human.

>

> Sorry gentlemen and take care.

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Roy and thanks to all the males that displayed cool words that was

much needed.

60 years? Wow. Thanks for being so honest Roy, meant a lot. I have a few pumps.

I have one expensive pump from Dr Kaplen but the clinders are too wide. I will

try them again with a more practical approach and who knows....

We now talk about sex and stuff. I haven't told her the virgin part but I'll

wait until after we have our first inter-course. The T shots make me re-group in

a matter of 10 minutes, so if release too soon and I will, I can focus on her

and then be ready to jump right back in. I have a better feel in what she likes

now. Just have to do it now and we will.

Once again, thanks to everyone for making me feel less embarrassed and more

normal. Telling her about my size is battle won now everything is honest and

open.

Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote:

Elliot,

If it is consolation to you I am only 51/2 inches too. They tell me that is

about

average you know, bigger isn't always better!.

You forget that size doesn't amount to much where women are doncerned. They

are only intereested in how you use it boy!

I have been married to a wonderful woman for over 60 years and she has

never complained about my size. Oh if you would like to make it a little

bigger

you could use a pump and ring. I can get mine up to 7 " with that

contraption.

Good luck brother and have many happy years,

My blessings to youi

Roy

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

That is great news Elliot and you need to know that to most women

size is not that big a deal. Good luck with her and go slow.

Phil

Elliot <elliotbkr@...> wrote:

Morning Gentlemen. Something weird just happened. I just finish

talking with my distant girlfriend and we were talking about our

futures and stuff. I have her heart! She called me baby but blah... I

didn't care for that term, but it's OK for now. I finally have my

first girlfriend! Yea, yea it came blah late at 29 but I'm still in

stock.

I indirectly went around my whole size problem, the same problem that

has made me very precluded and a virgin. I wanted to paste the side

effects from having primary hypogonadism since BIRTH to her, but I

just explain the best I could.

If folks don't know, I didn't fully go thru puberty and have suffered

from some many different side effects of testiclar failure. One of the

primary side effects is abnormal penis and testes. Me about 5 and half.

So, I just explained a bit about PH and then typed my size cause after

I indirectly went around it, she caught on and asked many times.

I knew she didn't want to be with me now given she has been with large

guys prior. She stated, " she still wants to be with me and her

feelings for me didn't change " .

I was in stock. It still hasn't hit me yet but I may finally have a

victory out of life. May be her support can help me get pass never

being happy in my life. May be her support can get me pass my health

issues (added is high blood pressure), and may be even at this late in

life, I can become a success.

If I can pleasure her with what I have, I may can feel human.

Sorry gentlemen and take care.

[Guest guest]

Wise advice - you will both be more relaxed if you are honest up front and the

outcome will be better.

Arkansas

gin2c <no_reply > wrote:

>

I would be honest with her. Tell her you are a virgin & don't want

to mess it up the first time.

Ask her to show you what to do.

> Morning Gentlemen. Something weird just happened. I just finish

> talking with my distant girlfriend and we were talking about our

> futures and stuff. I have her heart! She called me baby but blah...

I

> didn't care for that term, but it's OK for now. I finally have my

> first girlfriend! Yea, yea it came blah late at 29 but I'm still in

> stock.

>

> I indirectly went around my whole size problem, the same problem

that

> has made me very precluded and a virgin. I wanted to paste the side

> effects from having primary hypogonadism since BIRTH to her, but I

> just explain the best I could.

>

> If folks don't know, I didn't fully go thru puberty and have

suffered

> from some many different side effects of testiclar failure. One of

the

> primary side effects is abnormal penis and testes. Me about 5 and

half.

>

> So, I just explained a bit about PH and then typed my size cause

after

> I indirectly went around it, she caught on and asked many times.

>

>

> I knew she didn't want to be with me now given she has been with

large

> guys prior. She stated, " she still wants to be with me and her

> feelings for me didn't change " .

>

> I was in stock. It still hasn't hit me yet but I may finally have a

> victory out of life. May be her support can help me get pass never

> being happy in my life. May be her support can get me pass my health

> issues (added is high blood pressure), and may be even at this late

in

> life, I can become a success.

>

> If I can pleasure her with what I have, I may can feel human.

>

> Sorry gentlemen and take care.

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi,,

-Ive never had erection

-i reach 4.5 inches on a soft weak semi

-testicles are small, and penis not develop

-growth is weird with spine being 4 inches short

any help???

im considering,,,therapy : testoterone, hcg, e2

suppression, hgh > to help cure me, etc

--- <@...> wrote:

> I recently read that you experienced hypogonadism,

> but were still able

> to reach 5.5 " in penis length. I was wondering if

> you actually had

> hypogonadism during puberty and still reached that

> size, or you

> experienced it later in life.

>

> Thanks.

>

>

>

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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 00:01:07 +0000 (GMT), you wrote:

>Hi,,

>

>-Ive never had erection

>-i reach 4.5 inches on a soft weak semi

>-testicles are small, and penis not develop

>-growth is weird with spine being 4 inches short

>

>any help???

>

>im considering,,,therapy : testoterone, hcg, e2

>suppression, hgh > to help cure me, etc

I'd suspect genetic issues and receptor site conditions. Wait for the

genetics test results to come in.