Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Your T levels are good now you need to get your E2 down to 10 to 30 best at 20 pg/ml if your Dr. will not give your Arimidex try this it's over the counter. http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html Take only on tablet at dinner time and in a shot time you should get some real hard moring wood the kind that wakes you up this means your levels are good keep taking the one tablet but if wood stops stop the DIM until wood comes back then that day go back on the DIM but cut the tablet in half keep doing this and get your E2 Estradiol tested every time you have blood test for low t. I do a blood test every 6 weeks. If your low or high adjust the DIM so your good at 20. I find the morning wood a good gauge to not go to low. Phil ozzpat <ozzmed@...> wrote: Ok I think I have my testosterone levels where I like them TTL= 722 Free=158.9 but now I’m starting to think about my estradiol E2 levels. At my last blood test they where 48 the reference range have them at 10-50pg/ml so I’m at the high level of normal is this ok? How often should I get this checked? Everything with the doctors have been a struggle so far so I don’t think being that its in the normal range and I had to argue to get the test even done my doctor is going to prescribe me anything to lower it, so how can I go about lowering it naturally? Any ideas? --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:55:47 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >Your T levels are good now you need to get your E2 down to 10 to 30 best at 20 pg/ml if your Dr. will not give your Arimidex try this it's over the counter. > http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html I'd say more like 20 to 30 is ideal. I had levels test at 14 and felt like crap. 10 is way too low in my book. ________________ " You never need an argument against the use of violence, you need an argument for it. " Noam Chomsky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 I was just repeating what was in a Lef link I read here in the links section called " Male Hormone Modulation Therapy " that seams to have been changed by Lef. I have been as low as 10 and did not care for how I felt I am at 19 right now and doing great but this is the Day of my next shot that I do blood work so I am sure after the shot it's higher it does go up and down fast. Phil retrogrouch@... wrote: On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:55:47 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >Your T levels are good now you need to get your E2 down to 10 to 30 best at 20 pg/ml if your Dr. will not give your Arimidex try this it's over the counter. > http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html I'd say more like 20 to 30 is ideal. I had levels test at 14 and felt like crap. 10 is way too low in my book. ________________ " You never need an argument against the use of violence, you need an argument for it. " Noam Chomsky --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Degrees for employed people - in as fast as 1 year. A.S. / Bachelors / Masters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Hey Phil, I took DIM for a few weeks and didn't feel any different. I was taking two a day. All DIM are the same right? How long should one take DIM to feel changes? Is DIM better than Arimidex? How many caps should a male take per day? Ill try to caps again but I want to feel something profound if I do. philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: I was just repeating what was in a Lef link I read here in the links section called " Male Hormone Modulation Therapy " that seams to have been changed by Lef. I have been as low as 10 and did not care for how I felt I am at 19 right now and doing great but this is the Day of my next shot that I do blood work so I am sure after the shot it's higher it does go up and down fast. Phil retrogrouch@... wrote: On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:55:47 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >Your T levels are good now you need to get your E2 down to 10 to 30 best at 20 pg/ml if your Dr. will not give your Arimidex try this it's over the counter. > http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html I'd say more like 20 to 30 is ideal. I had levels test at 14 and felt like crap. 10 is way too low in my book. ________________ " You never need an argument against the use of violence, you need an argument for it. " Noam Chomsky --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Degrees for employed people - in as fast as 1 year. A.S. / Bachelors / Masters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Hi Elliot I have heard this many times and it's what they got I use this Indolplex/DIM. http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html I use this because they are Tablets and you can cut them in half and quarters. Only take one at dinner in a week one should get very hard moring wood the kind that wakes you up when this happens you know your E2 is good. I use this as a gauge to not go to low so if wood stops I stop the DIM until wood comes back the day it comes back I go back on the DIM but cut the tablet in half. Phil ELLIOT BAKER <elliotbkr@...> wrote: Hey Phil, I took DIM for a few weeks and didn't feel any different. I was taking two a day. All DIM are the same right? How long should one take DIM to feel changes? Is DIM better than Arimidex? How many caps should a male take per day? Ill try to caps again but I want to feel something profound if I do. philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: I was just repeating what was in a Lef link I read here in the links section called " Male Hormone Modulation Therapy " that seams to have been changed by Lef. I have been as low as 10 and did not care for how I felt I am at 19 right now and doing great but this is the Day of my next shot that I do blood work so I am sure after the shot it's higher it does go up and down fast. Phil retrogrouch@... wrote: On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:55:47 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >Your T levels are good now you need to get your E2 down to 10 to 30 best at 20 pg/ml if your Dr. will not give your Arimidex try this it's over the counter. > http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html I'd say more like 20 to 30 is ideal. I had levels test at 14 and felt like crap. 10 is way too low in my book. ________________ " You never need an argument against the use of violence, you need an argument for it. " Noam Chomsky --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Degrees for employed people - in as fast as 1 year. A.S. / Bachelors / Masters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Happy Thanksgiving folks... I'm confused a bit.. The T injections give me erections in the morning, but the last E2 test I took proved I was still high. How would I know without taking E2 test, the pills are working, given T already gives me have erections? Should I feel differently? philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: Hi Elliot I have heard this many times and it's what they got I use this Indolplex/DIM. http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html I use this because they are Tablets and you can cut them in half and quarters. Only take one at dinner in a week one should get very hard moring wood the kind that wakes you up when this happens you know your E2 is good. I use this as a gauge to not go to low so if wood stops I stop the DIM until wood comes back the day it comes back I go back on the DIM but cut the tablet in half. Phil ELLIOT BAKER wrote: Hey Phil, I took DIM for a few weeks and didn't feel any different. I was taking two a day. All DIM are the same right? How long should one take DIM to feel changes? Is DIM better than Arimidex? How many caps should a male take per day? Ill try to caps again but I want to feel something profound if I do. philip georgian wrote: I was just repeating what was in a Lef link I read here in the links section called " Male Hormone Modulation Therapy " that seams to have been changed by Lef. I have been as low as 10 and did not care for how I felt I am at 19 right now and doing great but this is the Day of my next shot that I do blood work so I am sure after the shot it's higher it does go up and down fast. Phil retrogrouch@... wrote: On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:55:47 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >Your T levels are good now you need to get your E2 down to 10 to 30 best at 20 pg/ml if your Dr. will not give your Arimidex try this it's over the counter. > http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html I'd say more like 20 to 30 is ideal. I had levels test at 14 and felt like crap. 10 is way too low in my book. ________________ " You never need an argument against the use of violence, you need an argument for it. " Noam Chomsky --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Degrees for employed people - in as fast as 1 year. A.S. / Bachelors / Masters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Elliot I don't remember what your E2 was can you post the test and units with ranges. If your getting wood now and your E2 is on the High side. Getting it down well clear your head of brain fog and make you feel less stressed. I use the wood as a gauge to not go to low younger men can have higher levels and still get good morning wood. The wood as a gauge would be when your wood stops what ever your taking to lower E2 got it down to low. So if your E2 is on the high side and you take something to lower it and wood stops you went to low. So I stop taking meds to lower E2 until wood comes back. Then I go back on it but less. I keep doing this until I find the right dose. ELLIOT BAKER <elliotbkr@...> wrote: Happy Thanksgiving folks... I'm confused a bit.. The T injections give me erections in the morning, but the last E2 test I took proved I was still high. How would I know without taking E2 test, the pills are working, given T already gives me have erections? Should I feel differently? philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: Hi Elliot I have heard this many times and it's what they got I use this Indolplex/DIM. http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html I use this because they are Tablets and you can cut them in half and quarters. Only take one at dinner in a week one should get very hard moring wood the kind that wakes you up when this happens you know your E2 is good. I use this as a gauge to not go to low so if wood stops I stop the DIM until wood comes back the day it comes back I go back on the DIM but cut the tablet in half. Phil ELLIOT BAKER wrote: Hey Phil, I took DIM for a few weeks and didn't feel any different. I was taking two a day. All DIM are the same right? How long should one take DIM to feel changes? Is DIM better than Arimidex? How many caps should a male take per day? Ill try to caps again but I want to feel something profound if I do. philip georgian wrote: I was just repeating what was in a Lef link I read here in the links section called " Male Hormone Modulation Therapy " that seams to have been changed by Lef. I have been as low as 10 and did not care for how I felt I am at 19 right now and doing great but this is the Day of my next shot that I do blood work so I am sure after the shot it's higher it does go up and down fast. Phil retrogrouch@... wrote: On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:55:47 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >Your T levels are good now you need to get your E2 down to 10 to 30 best at 20 pg/ml if your Dr. will not give your Arimidex try this it's over the counter. > http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html I'd say more like 20 to 30 is ideal. I had levels test at 14 and felt like crap. 10 is way too low in my book. ________________ " You never need an argument against the use of violence, you need an argument for it. " Noam Chomsky --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Degrees for employed people - in as fast as 1 year. A.S. / Bachelors / Masters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Hey Elliot - keep in mind we are all different. If you are getting erections and feel OK then what ever E2 level you are at might be OK for you. Arkansas ELLIOT BAKER <elliotbkr@...> wrote: Happy Thanksgiving folks... I'm confused a bit.. The T injections give me erections in the morning, but the last E2 test I took proved I was still high. How would I know without taking E2 test, the pills are working, given T already gives me have erections? Should I feel differently? philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: Hi Elliot I have heard this many times and it's what they got I use this Indolplex/DIM. http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html I use this because they are Tablets and you can cut them in half and quarters. Only take one at dinner in a week one should get very hard moring wood the kind that wakes you up when this happens you know your E2 is good. I use this as a gauge to not go to low so if wood stops I stop the DIM until wood comes back the day it comes back I go back on the DIM but cut the tablet in half. Phil ELLIOT BAKER wrote: Hey Phil, I took DIM for a few weeks and didn't feel any different. I was taking two a day. All DIM are the same right? How long should one take DIM to feel changes? Is DIM better than Arimidex? How many caps should a male take per day? Ill try to caps again but I want to feel something profound if I do. philip georgian wrote: I was just repeating what was in a Lef link I read here in the links section called " Male Hormone Modulation Therapy " that seams to have been changed by Lef. I have been as low as 10 and did not care for how I felt I am at 19 right now and doing great but this is the Day of my next shot that I do blood work so I am sure after the shot it's higher it does go up and down fast. Phil retrogrouch@... wrote: On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:55:47 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >Your T levels are good now you need to get your E2 down to 10 to 30 best at 20 pg/ml if your Dr. will not give your Arimidex try this it's over the counter. > http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html I'd say more like 20 to 30 is ideal. I had levels test at 14 and felt like crap. 10 is way too low in my book. ________________ " You never need an argument against the use of violence, you need an argument for it. " Noam Chomsky --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Degrees for employed people - in as fast as 1 year. A.S. / Bachelors / Masters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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