Re: What day of the week to take your Test Cyp shots

[Guest guest]

what do you base this on a lot of what you said is not ture. You need to

check your self or post into that proves what your saying.

Phil

Montreal <johnjmontreal@...> wrote:

Dear " jmsems " ,

That is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!

Giving a 14-year-old boy such a dangerous drug as testosterone

cyprionate! Did he even give his independently informed consent to

it? (Bearing in mind that medical doctors like prescribing

unnecessary drugs like testosterone, because they are " in the

pockets " of the big drug companies that make the vile stuff, and

get " kickbacks " for such unnecessary prescribing from the drug

makers, so medical doctors who prescribe it are not a reliable source

of balanced independent information).

That sort of thing ranks as " child abuse " ! Testosterone - which is

not even necessary for human survival or well-being - can stunt his

growth, as well as causing hirsutism, excessive growth and

ossification of the larynx and cartilages, baldness, and, worse

still, hardening of the arteries with its attendant risks of strokes

and heart attacks. Its medical use should be banned, especially on

someone that young. In today's modern industrial society, male

secondary sexual characteristics are not even necessary. Take him off

the stuff immediately, for his own good! He may have legal recourse

against you in the future, especially if you imposed any sort of

pressure upon him to take the injections, or gave him false or

incomplete or misleading information.

(Jean) J. Montréal johnjmontreal@...

--- In , " jmsems " <smoot3@c...> wrote,

31 October 2005:

>

> My 14 year old son started T-Cyp in August. 50 mg every two weeks

injected

> by me subq in thigh or shouldrer with a 29 guage 1/2 in. syringe.

I draw in

> 50 mg of air and push it into the bottle - draw the T out by

pulling up and

> down on the syringe and occasionally tapping the side to get rid of

air

> pockets. It takes me about ten minutes to do this although the

endo nurse

> who taught me could do it in about a minute. I give him a quick

straight

> jab and slowly but firmly push the T in. It is virtually pain

free. No

> test results to report.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lets face it.....is full of S**T, enough, said unless he can show all

of us his DR. degree

Doc

On 11/6/05, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

>

> what do you base this on a lot of what you said is not ture. You need

> to check your self or post into that proves what your saying.

> Phil

>

> Montreal <johnjmontreal@...> wrote:

> Dear " jmsems " ,

>

> That is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!

>

> Giving a 14-year-old boy such a dangerous drug as testosterone

> cyprionate! Did he even give his independently informed consent to

> it? (Bearing in mind that medical doctors like prescribing

> unnecessary drugs like testosterone, because they are " in the

> pockets " of the big drug companies that make the vile stuff, and

> get " kickbacks " for such unnecessary prescribing from the drug

> makers, so medical doctors who prescribe it are not a reliable source

> of balanced independent information).

>

> That sort of thing ranks as " child abuse " ! Testosterone - which is

> not even necessary for human survival or well-being - can stunt his

> growth, as well as causing hirsutism, excessive growth and

> ossification of the larynx and cartilages, baldness, and, worse

> still, hardening of the arteries with its attendant risks of strokes

> and heart attacks. Its medical use should be banned, especially on

> someone that young. In today's modern industrial society, male

> secondary sexual characteristics are not even necessary. Take him off

> the stuff immediately, for his own good! He may have legal recourse

> against you in the future, especially if you imposed any sort of

> pressure upon him to take the injections, or gave him false or

> incomplete or misleading information.

>

> (Jean) J. Montréal johnjmontreal@...

>

>

> --- In , " jmsems " <smoot3@c...> wrote,

> 31 October 2005:

> >

> > My 14 year old son started T-Cyp in August. 50 mg every two weeks

> injected

> > by me subq in thigh or shouldrer with a 29 guage 1/2 in. syringe.

> I draw in

> > 50 mg of air and push it into the bottle - draw the T out by

> pulling up and

> > down on the syringe and occasionally tapping the side to get rid of

> air

> > pockets. It takes me about ten minutes to do this although the

> endo nurse

> > who taught me could do it in about a minute. I give him a quick

> straight

> > jab and slowly but firmly push the T in. It is virtually pain

> free. No

> > test results to report.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Why did the Dr put him on the T?

Doc <MaconBear@...> wrote:

Lets face it.....is full of S**T, enough, said unless he can show all

of us his DR. degree

Doc

On 11/6/05, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

>

> what do you base this on a lot of what you said is not ture. You need

> to check your self or post into that proves what your saying.

> Phil

>

> Montreal <johnjmontreal@...> wrote:

> Dear " jmsems " ,

>

> That is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!

>

> Giving a 14-year-old boy such a dangerous drug as testosterone

> cyprionate! Did he even give his independently informed consent to

> it? (Bearing in mind that medical doctors like prescribing

> unnecessary drugs like testosterone, because they are " in the

> pockets " of the big drug companies that make the vile stuff, and

> get " kickbacks " for such unnecessary prescribing from the drug

> makers, so medical doctors who prescribe it are not a reliable source

> of balanced independent information).

>

> That sort of thing ranks as " child abuse " ! Testosterone - which is

> not even necessary for human survival or well-being - can stunt his

> growth, as well as causing hirsutism, excessive growth and

> ossification of the larynx and cartilages, baldness, and, worse

> still, hardening of the arteries with its attendant risks of strokes

> and heart attacks. Its medical use should be banned, especially on

> someone that young. In today's modern industrial society, male

> secondary sexual characteristics are not even necessary. Take him off

> the stuff immediately, for his own good! He may have legal recourse

> against you in the future, especially if you imposed any sort of

> pressure upon him to take the injections, or gave him false or

> incomplete or misleading information.

>

> (Jean) J. Montréal johnjmontreal@...

>

>

> --- In , " jmsems " <smoot3@c...> wrote,

> 31 October 2005:

> >

> > My 14 year old son started T-Cyp in August. 50 mg every two weeks

> injected

> > by me subq in thigh or shouldrer with a 29 guage 1/2 in. syringe.

> I draw in

> > 50 mg of air and push it into the bottle - draw the T out by

> pulling up and

> > down on the syringe and occasionally tapping the side to get rid of

> air

> > pockets. It takes me about ten minutes to do this although the

> endo nurse

> > who taught me could do it in about a minute. I give him a quick

> straight

> > jab and slowly but firmly push the T in. It is virtually pain

> free. No

> > test results to report.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have to respond to this. I was a young teenager

when i was diagnosed with hypogonadism. I am now 32.

Thank God my parents put me on treatment right away.

I would have hated them for not doing something and

would have hated my teenage years even more if I

couldn't " grow up " like the rest of the boys.

--- Doc <MaconBear@...> wrote:

> Lets face it.....is full of S**T, enough, said

> unless he can show all

> of us his DR. degree

> Doc

>

> On 11/6/05, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>

> wrote:

> >

> > what do you base this on a lot of what you

> said is not ture. You need

> > to check your self or post into that proves what

> your saying.

> > Phil

> >

> > Montreal <johnjmontreal@...> wrote:

> > Dear " jmsems " ,

> >

> > That is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!

> >

> > Giving a 14-year-old boy such a dangerous drug as

> testosterone

> > cyprionate! Did he even give his independently

> informed consent to

> > it? (Bearing in mind that medical doctors like

> prescribing

> > unnecessary drugs like testosterone, because they

> are " in the

> > pockets " of the big drug companies that make the

> vile stuff, and

> > get " kickbacks " for such unnecessary prescribing

> from the drug

> > makers, so medical doctors who prescribe it are

> not a reliable source

> > of balanced independent information).

> >

> > That sort of thing ranks as " child abuse " !

> Testosterone - which is

> > not even necessary for human survival or

> well-being - can stunt his

> > growth, as well as causing hirsutism, excessive

> growth and

> > ossification of the larynx and cartilages,

> baldness, and, worse

> > still, hardening of the arteries with its

> attendant risks of strokes

> > and heart attacks. Its medical use should be

> banned, especially on

> > someone that young. In today's modern industrial

> society, male

> > secondary sexual characteristics are not even

> necessary. Take him off

> > the stuff immediately, for his own good! He may

> have legal recourse

> > against you in the future, especially if you

> imposed any sort of

> > pressure upon him to take the injections, or gave

> him false or

> > incomplete or misleading information.

> >

> > (Jean) J. Montréal johnjmontreal@...

> >

> >

> > --- In , " jmsems "

> <smoot3@c...> wrote,

> > 31 October 2005:

> > >

> > > My 14 year old son started T-Cyp in August. 50

> mg every two weeks

> > injected

> > > by me subq in thigh or shouldrer with a 29 guage

> 1/2 in. syringe.

> > I draw in

> > > 50 mg of air and push it into the bottle - draw

> the T out by

> > pulling up and

> > > down on the syringe and occasionally tapping the

> side to get rid of

> > air

> > > pockets. It takes me about ten minutes to do

> this although the

> > endo nurse

> > > who taught me could do it in about a minute. I

> give him a quick

> > straight

> > > jab and slowly but firmly push the T in. It is

> virtually pain

> > free. No

> > > test results to report.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Bless your parents and doctors for not letting you grow up

hypogonadal. This is an untreated epidemic here in Hawaii. I am now

getting back some of what I lost, but it is too late to turn back

time. I am now 33, on testosterone injections as of September 2005.

> > > Dear " jmsems " ,

> > >

> > > That is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!

> > >

> > > Giving a 14-year-old boy such a dangerous drug as

> > testosterone

> > > cyprionate! Did he even give his independently

> > informed consent to

> > > it? (Bearing in mind that medical doctors like

> > prescribing

> > > unnecessary drugs like testosterone, because they

> > are " in the

> > > pockets " of the big drug companies that make the

> > vile stuff, and

> > > get " kickbacks " for such unnecessary prescribing

> > from the drug

> > > makers, so medical doctors who prescribe it are

> > not a reliable source

> > > of balanced independent information).

> > >

> > > That sort of thing ranks as " child abuse " !

> > Testosterone - which is

> > > not even necessary for human survival or

> > well-being - can stunt his

> > > growth, as well as causing hirsutism, excessive

> > growth and

> > > ossification of the larynx and cartilages,

> > baldness, and, worse

> > > still, hardening of the arteries with its

> > attendant risks of strokes

> > > and heart attacks. Its medical use should be

> > banned, especially on

> > > someone that young. In today's modern industrial

> > society, male

> > > secondary sexual characteristics are not even

> > necessary. Take him off

> > > the stuff immediately, for his own good! He may

> > have legal recourse

> > > against you in the future, especially if you

> > imposed any sort of

> > > pressure upon him to take the injections, or gave

> > him false or

> > > incomplete or misleading information.

> > >

> > > (Jean) J. Montréal johnjmontreal@y...

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In , " jmsems "

> > <smoot3@c...> wrote,

> > > 31 October 2005:

> > > >

> > > > My 14 year old son started T-Cyp in August. 50

> > mg every two weeks

> > > injected

> > > > by me subq in thigh or shouldrer with a 29 guage

> > 1/2 in. syringe.

> > > I draw in

> > > > 50 mg of air and push it into the bottle - draw

> > the T out by

> > > pulling up and

> > > > down on the syringe and occasionally tapping the

> > side to get rid of

> > > air

> > > > pockets. It takes me about ten minutes to do

> > this although the

> > > endo nurse

> > > > who taught me could do it in about a minute. I

> > give him a quick

> > > straight

> > > > jab and slowly but firmly push the T in. It is

> > virtually pain

> > > free. No

> > > > test results to report.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

We don't have to be be annoyed with just inform what the

realities are.

I say this from the calmness of my second cyprionate injection as

opposed to the how I usually feel (I hope this well-being continues

though I know it may not from previous experiences).

You might want to look at my last post where I addressed Jean's post

point by point and showed the short-commings and rebutals of the

thoughts expressed.

There is nothing wrong with getting things wrong if you do so

honestly. If this person is honestly getting things wrong as

opposed to trolling then they will now hopefully now be in a place

where they are able to get the infromation required in order to

correctly educate themselves on theses matters.

I don't know who is and have never seen previous posts, but who

is to say that isn't someone who has low testosterone

themselves and needs help? Ok maybe not but you never know.

Chris

> > Dear " jmsems " ,

> >

> > That is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!

> >

> > Giving a 14-year-old boy such a dangerous drug as testosterone

> > cyprionate! Did he even give his independently informed consent

to

> > it? (Bearing in mind that medical doctors like prescribing

> > unnecessary drugs like testosterone, because they are " in the

> > pockets " of the big drug companies that make the vile stuff, and

> > get " kickbacks " for such unnecessary prescribing from the drug

> > makers, so medical doctors who prescribe it are not a reliable

source

> > of balanced independent information).

> >

> > That sort of thing ranks as " child abuse " ! Testosterone - which

is

> > not even necessary for human survival or well-being - can stunt

his

> > growth, as well as causing hirsutism, excessive growth and

> > ossification of the larynx and cartilages, baldness, and, worse

> > still, hardening of the arteries with its attendant risks of

strokes

> > and heart attacks. Its medical use should be banned, especially

on

> > someone that young. In today's modern industrial society, male

> > secondary sexual characteristics are not even necessary. Take

him off

> > the stuff immediately, for his own good! He may have legal

recourse

> > against you in the future, especially if you imposed any sort of

> > pressure upon him to take the injections, or gave him false or

> > incomplete or misleading information.

> >

> > (Jean) J. Montréal johnjmontreal@y...

> >

> >

> > --- In , " jmsems " <smoot3@c...>

wrote,

> > 31 October 2005:

> > >

> > > My 14 year old son started T-Cyp in August. 50 mg every two

weeks

> > injected

> > > by me subq in thigh or shouldrer with a 29 guage 1/2 in.

syringe.

> > I draw in

> > > 50 mg of air and push it into the bottle - draw the T out by

> > pulling up and

> > > down on the syringe and occasionally tapping the side to get

rid of

> > air

> > > pockets. It takes me about ten minutes to do this although the

> > endo nurse

> > > who taught me could do it in about a minute. I give him a quick

> > straight

> > > jab and slowly but firmly push the T in. It is virtually pain

> > free. No

> > > test results to report.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dorset, Angleterre Le 7. novembre 2005

Cher Jean

Welcome to the list.

" " " I don't know who is and have never seen previous posts, but who

is to say that isn't someone who has low testosterone

themselves and needs help? Ok maybe not but you never know.

" "

Well said Chris.

I know that is a student like many in this list and I look forward to

exchanges about TRT and HGHG/HG.

I have not had time to reply to Jean's initial posting but was very

surprised by the tome of some of the earlier replies as everyone here is

greeted and welcomed alike.

I agree with Chris; even if we disagree with a posted message, especially

when someone is new here, it would be nicer to explain ones position rather

than be rude.

Again, Welcome Jean.

I was thinking about your music. This year the BBC Proms had the first

Counter-Tenor to sing and it was so well received that it has already been

suggested that this is repeated. I assume CBC carry the proms and so you may

have watched this from Montreal? If not check out http://www.bbc.com and

search for 2005 Proms with Counter Tenor.

On a point of English / Music a male you sings in the range of a Soprano is

a Treble eg Boy Treble in a choir.

Italy still has Male " Castratos " I think - Are you in contact with Italy?

Hope to see with you soon.

Bon après midi et a bientot,

_________________________________________

Randle

_________________________________________

Re: What day of the week to take your Test Cyp shots

We don't have to be be annoyed with just inform what the

realities are.

I say this from the calmness of my second cyprionate injection as

opposed to the how I usually feel (I hope this well-being continues

though I know it may not from previous experiences).

You might want to look at my last post where I addressed Jean's post

point by point and showed the short-commings and rebutals of the

thoughts expressed.

There is nothing wrong with getting things wrong if you do so

honestly. If this person is honestly getting things wrong as

opposed to trolling then they will now hopefully now be in a place

where they are able to get the infromation required in order to

correctly educate themselves on theses matters.

I don't know who is and have never seen previous posts, but who

is to say that isn't someone who has low testosterone

themselves and needs help? Ok maybe not but you never know.

Chris

> > Dear " jmsems " ,

> >

> > That is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!

> >

> > Giving a 14-year-old boy such a dangerous drug as testosterone

> > cyprionate! Did he even give his independently informed consent

to

> > it? (Bearing in mind that medical doctors like prescribing

> > unnecessary drugs like testosterone, because they are " in the

> > pockets " of the big drug companies that make the vile stuff, and

> > get " kickbacks " for such unnecessary prescribing from the drug

> > makers, so medical doctors who prescribe it are not a reliable

source

> > of balanced independent information).

> >

> > That sort of thing ranks as " child abuse " ! Testosterone - which

is

> > not even necessary for human survival or well-being - can stunt

his

> > growth, as well as causing hirsutism, excessive growth and

> > ossification of the larynx and cartilages, baldness, and, worse

> > still, hardening of the arteries with its attendant risks of

strokes

> > and heart attacks. Its medical use should be banned, especially

on

> > someone that young. In today's modern industrial society, male

> > secondary sexual characteristics are not even necessary. Take

him off

> > the stuff immediately, for his own good! He may have legal

recourse

> > against you in the future, especially if you imposed any sort of

> > pressure upon him to take the injections, or gave him false or

> > incomplete or misleading information.

> >

> > (Jean) J. Montréal johnjmontreal@y...

> >

> >

> > --- In , " jmsems " <smoot3@c...>

wrote,

> > 31 October 2005:

> > >

> > > My 14 year old son started T-Cyp in August. 50 mg every two

weeks

> > injected

> > > by me subq in thigh or shouldrer with a 29 guage 1/2 in.

syringe.

> > I draw in

> > > 50 mg of air and push it into the bottle - draw the T out by

> > pulling up and

> > > down on the syringe and occasionally tapping the side to get

rid of

> > air

> > > pockets. It takes me about ten minutes to do this although the

> > endo nurse

> > > who taught me could do it in about a minute. I give him a quick

> > straight

> > > jab and slowly but firmly push the T in. It is virtually pain

> > free. No

> > > test results to report.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

For those who may have missed it, introduces himself in message

29029. He's making some choices that are different from those most of

us would make. As always, kindness and social grace are highly

encouraged.

Brad

>

> Dorset, Angleterre Le 7. novembre 2005

>

> Cher Jean

>

> Welcome to the list.

>

> " " " I don't know who is and have never seen previous posts, but who

> is to say that isn't someone who has low testosterone

> themselves and needs help? Ok maybe not but you never know.

>

> " "

>

> Well said Chris.

>

> I know that is a student like many in this list and I look

forward to

> exchanges about TRT and HGHG/HG.

>

> I have not had time to reply to Jean's initial posting but was very

> surprised by the tome of some of the earlier replies as everyone

here is

> greeted and welcomed alike.

>

> I agree with Chris; even if we disagree with a posted message,

especially

> when someone is new here, it would be nicer to explain ones position

rather

> than be rude.

>

> Again, Welcome Jean.

>

> I was thinking about your music. This year the BBC Proms had the first

> Counter-Tenor to sing and it was so well received that it has

already been

> suggested that this is repeated. I assume CBC carry the proms and so

you may

> have watched this from Montreal? If not check out http://www.bbc.com

and

> search for 2005 Proms with Counter Tenor.

>

> On a point of English / Music a male you sings in the range of a

Soprano is

> a Treble eg Boy Treble in a choir.

>

> Italy still has Male " Castratos " I think - Are you in contact with

Italy?

>

> Hope to see with you soon.

>

> Bon après midi et a bientot,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _________________________________________

> Randle

> _________________________________________

> Re: What day of the week to take your Test

Cyp shots

>

>

> We don't have to be be annoyed with just inform what the

> realities are.

>

> I say this from the calmness of my second cyprionate injection as

> opposed to the how I usually feel (I hope this well-being continues

> though I know it may not from previous experiences).

>

> You might want to look at my last post where I addressed Jean's post

> point by point and showed the short-commings and rebutals of the

> thoughts expressed.

>

> There is nothing wrong with getting things wrong if you do so

> honestly. If this person is honestly getting things wrong as

> opposed to trolling then they will now hopefully now be in a place

> where they are able to get the infromation required in order to

> correctly educate themselves on theses matters.

>

> I don't know who is and have never seen previous posts, but who

> is to say that isn't someone who has low testosterone

> themselves and needs help? Ok maybe not but you never know.

>

> Chris

>

[Guest guest]

>

> We don't have to be be annoyed with just inform what the

> realities are.

>

> I say this from the calmness of my second cyprionate injection as

> opposed to the how I usually feel (I hope this well-being continues

> though I know it may not from previous experiences).

>

Glad the cyp is working for you so far.

Brad

[Guest guest]

Certainly at THAT age, he should not be getting any at all, and

especially not if he is not aware of what he is being given and its

effects! It is just pure, unwarranted vanity!

Montréal

>

> >My 14 year old son started T-Cyp in August. 50 mg every two weeks

injected

> >by me subq in thigh or shouldrer with a 29 guage 1/2 in. syringe.

I draw in

> >50 mg of air and push it into the bottle - draw the T out by

pulling up and

> >down on the syringe and occasionally tapping the side to get rid

of air

> >pockets. It takes me about ten minutes to do this although the

endo nurse

> >who taught me could do it in about a minute. I give him a quick

straight

> >jab and slowly but firmly push the T in. It is virtually pain

free. No

> >test results to report.

>

> That seems a very very low dose of T especially as at 14 you are

> seeking to emulate puberty I should think, where levels are even

> higher than normal.

>

> Is this prescription by a GP or an endo? I suspect a GP who thinks

> he's supplementing T production. That doesn't happen. When you start

> taking shots your natural production stops because of hormonal

> feedback mechanisms. I would think a teen would be getting about

150mg

> every week. 6 times as much.

>

>

> - - - -

> Just another albino black sheep

>

[Guest guest]

I say this once more, that boy is blessed to have a mother that

concerned for his health and future life. Growing up hypogonadal was

not easy for me. I had a mother who did not give a shit that at that

age I was not horny, hunger and growing muscles. Making this boy

wait until he is of legal age is too late and medically

irresponsible. At age 14, I knew damn well what testosterone was and

I suspected that was what made me different from other boys. 20

years of my life has been a total loss to me because of untreated

hypogonadism. That boy owes his mother gratitude, it would be so

easy for her to wait and see if he outgrows his problem.

> >

> > >My 14 year old son started T-Cyp in August. 50 mg every two

weeks

> injected

> > >by me subq in thigh or shouldrer with a 29 guage 1/2 in.

syringe.

> I draw in

> > >50 mg of air and push it into the bottle - draw the T out by

> pulling up and

> > >down on the syringe and occasionally tapping the side to get rid

> of air

> > >pockets. It takes me about ten minutes to do this although the

> endo nurse

> > >who taught me could do it in about a minute. I give him a quick

> straight

> > >jab and slowly but firmly push the T in. It is virtually pain

> free. No

> > >test results to report.

> >

> > That seems a very very low dose of T especially as at 14 you are

> > seeking to emulate puberty I should think, where levels are even

> > higher than normal.

> >

> > Is this prescription by a GP or an endo? I suspect a GP who

thinks

> > he's supplementing T production. That doesn't happen. When you

start

> > taking shots your natural production stops because of hormonal

> > feedback mechanisms. I would think a teen would be getting about

> 150mg

> > every week. 6 times as much.

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On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 01:53:14 -0000, you wrote:

>Certainly at THAT age, he should not be getting any at all, and

>especially not if he is not aware of what he is being given and its

>effects! It is just pure, unwarranted vanity!

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> Montréal

, I understand you've decided to stay eunuchal by choice. But your

personal choice is not the same as a medical opinion. You do not know

what this boy's T levels are without treatment, you do not know what

the normal levels for a 14 year old should be. Such flat statements as

" at that age he should not be getting any at all " contain the sound of

medical certainty, when instead they merely reflect your personal

biases and choice. You'd do better to state them as such rather than

absolutes.

I don't understand why you hang out in a TRT forum when you've decided

you prefer being a eunuch.

You come across like an atheist in a Christian forum looking for a

fight or to cause trouble.

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>> >My 14 year old son started T-Cyp in August. 50 mg every two weeks

>injected

>> >by me subq in thigh or shouldrer with a 29 guage 1/2 in. syringe.

>I draw in

>> >50 mg of air and push it into the bottle - draw the T out by

>pulling up and

>> >down on the syringe and occasionally tapping the side to get rid

>of air

>> >pockets. It takes me about ten minutes to do this although the

>endo nurse

>> >who taught me could do it in about a minute. I give him a quick

>straight

>> >jab and slowly but firmly push the T in. It is virtually pain

>free. No

>> >test results to report.

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>> That seems a very very low dose of T especially as at 14 you are

>> seeking to emulate puberty I should think, where levels are even

>> higher than normal.

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>> Is this prescription by a GP or an endo? I suspect a GP who thinks

>> he's supplementing T production. That doesn't happen. When you start

>> taking shots your natural production stops because of hormonal

>> feedback mechanisms. I would think a teen would be getting about

>150mg

>> every week. 6 times as much.

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>> Just another albino black sheep

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