Re: ED seems much better , followed Dr. Shippen's advice

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On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 01:45:11 -0000, you wrote:

>Well after months of ED torture - in spite of having great labs with

>Testosterone levels of 827 and Estradiol of 18,, I reread Dr. Eugene

>Shippen's book on the T replacement. 10 days ago I started doing kegel

>exercises 20 times a day for about 15 seconds as he suggests . Well it

>seems like a miracle but all of a sudden this week my erection problems

>are history. I am waking with erections and having good enough

>erections for full sustained intercourse.

>

>It just seems too simple but yet I have noticed my pelvic muscles are

>much stronger since starting the exercises. I have not used any

>Levitra or anything else. Can it be possible such a simple exercise

>creates such a good result?. I only post this here because other guys

>may be in my position of having good T levels and yet still have ED..

>It may be worth a try.

An E2 level of 18 is too low in my book. It's on the road to ED.

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And I agree you way to low need to stop taking what ever you taking to lower E2

and wait for some morning wood to come back this means your at the right levels

for E2. The tests your looking at most are not going to tell you anything

becuse your on TRT LH and FSH will be at the bottom of the range on TRT. You

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retrogrouch@... wrote:

On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 01:45:11 -0000, you wrote:

>Well after months of ED torture - in spite of having great labs with

>Testosterone levels of 827 and Estradiol of 18,, I reread Dr. Eugene

>Shippen's book on the T replacement. 10 days ago I started doing kegel

>exercises 20 times a day for about 15 seconds as he suggests . Well it

>seems like a miracle but all of a sudden this week my erection problems

>are history. I am waking with erections and having good enough

>erections for full sustained intercourse.

>

>It just seems too simple but yet I have noticed my pelvic muscles are

>much stronger since starting the exercises. I have not used any

>Levitra or anything else. Can it be possible such a simple exercise

>creates such a good result?. I only post this here because other guys

>may be in my position of having good T levels and yet still have ED..

>It may be worth a try.

An E2 level of 18 is too low in my book. It's on the road to ED.

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Phil-- you;re right ,, I did stop taking my 100mg per day of zinc..

Perhaps my estradiol was too low ..

Mark

>

> >Well after months of ED torture - in spite of having great labs

with

> >Testosterone levels of 827 and Estradiol of 18,, I reread Dr.

Eugene

> >Shippen's book on the T replacement. 10 days ago I started doing

kegel

> >exercises 20 times a day for about 15 seconds as he suggests .

Well it

> >seems like a miracle but all of a sudden this week my erection

problems

> >are history. I am waking with erections and having good enough

> >erections for full sustained intercourse.

> >

> >It just seems too simple but yet I have noticed my pelvic muscles

are

> >much stronger since starting the exercises. I have not used any

> >Levitra or anything else. Can it be possible such a simple

exercise

> >creates such a good result?. I only post this here because other

guys

> >may be in my position of having good T levels and yet still have

ED..

> >It may be worth a try.

>

> An E2 level of 18 is too low in my book. It's on the road to ED.

>

>

>

>

>

> Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what

you see. "

> Phil

>

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Tell me more about the book.

>

> >Well after months of ED torture - in spite of having great labs

with

> >Testosterone levels of 827 and Estradiol of 18,, I reread Dr.

Eugene

> >Shippen's book on the T replacement. 10 days ago I started doing

kegel

> >exercises 20 times a day for about 15 seconds as he suggests .

Well it

> >seems like a miracle but all of a sudden this week my erection

problems

> >are history. I am waking with erections and having good enough

> >erections for full sustained intercourse.

> >

> >It just seems too simple but yet I have noticed my pelvic muscles

are

> >much stronger since starting the exercises. I have not used any

> >Levitra or anything else. Can it be possible such a simple

exercise

> >creates such a good result?. I only post this here because other

guys

> >may be in my position of having good T levels and yet still have

ED..

> >It may be worth a try.

>

>

> An E2 level of 18 is too low in my book. It's on the road to ED.

>

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You need to get in tune with your body E2 levels that are to high give me sore

and hard nipples, loss of morning wood or wood when your sleeping, brain fog,

feeling of being hot and sweating with my upper body looking like I have a

sunburn, feeling of panic and panic attacks, a low pain in my prostate with slow

voiding the list goes on. Now going to low you can't get it up and no morning

wood when this happens I stop taking what ever I am doing to lower E2 until wood

comes back. I find wood a dam good gauge on going to low. If you let this go

and keep going low you get brain fog and feel with drawn from what is going on

around you.

invstri <Invstri@...> wrote: Phil-- you;re right ,, I did stop

taking my 100mg per day of zinc..

Perhaps my estradiol was too low ..

Mark

>

> >Well after months of ED torture - in spite of having great labs

with

> >Testosterone levels of 827 and Estradiol of 18,, I reread Dr.

Eugene

> >Shippen's book on the T replacement. 10 days ago I started doing

kegel

> >exercises 20 times a day for about 15 seconds as he suggests .

Well it

> >seems like a miracle but all of a sudden this week my erection

problems

> >are history. I am waking with erections and having good enough

> >erections for full sustained intercourse.

> >

> >It just seems too simple but yet I have noticed my pelvic muscles

are

> >much stronger since starting the exercises. I have not used any

> >Levitra or anything else. Can it be possible such a simple

exercise

> >creates such a good result?. I only post this here because other

guys

> >may be in my position of having good T levels and yet still have

ED..

> >It may be worth a try.

>

> An E2 level of 18 is too low in my book. It's on the road to ED.

>

>

>

>

>

> Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what

you see. "

> Phil

>

> ---------------------------------

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>

>

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The book is called " The Testosterone syndrome " cost is not much and it is a bit

dated what he says about doing shots he now does. He is doing shots subQ every

3 days 200mgs/ml of Depo T shooting .35mls into his belly 2 shots each time to

keep the volume down so you don't have a lump under the skin. He as found doing

this getts his T levels up and keeps his E2 down. Going into the fat slows down

the amout of T going into the blood.

norsworthy_david <norsworthy_david@...> wrote: Tell me more about

the book.

>

> >Well after months of ED torture - in spite of having great labs

with

> >Testosterone levels of 827 and Estradiol of 18,, I reread Dr.

Eugene

> >Shippen's book on the T replacement. 10 days ago I started doing

kegel

> >exercises 20 times a day for about 15 seconds as he suggests .

Well it

> >seems like a miracle but all of a sudden this week my erection

problems

> >are history. I am waking with erections and having good enough

> >erections for full sustained intercourse.

> >

> >It just seems too simple but yet I have noticed my pelvic muscles

are

> >much stronger since starting the exercises. I have not used any

> >Levitra or anything else. Can it be possible such a simple

exercise

> >creates such a good result?. I only post this here because other

guys

> >may be in my position of having good T levels and yet still have

ED..

> >It may be worth a try.

>

>

> An E2 level of 18 is too low in my book. It's on the road to ED.

>

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Phil, in your opinion then my reading of 18 for estradiol is too low

with a total T of 827 .. ??? Of course my doctor said the estradiol

level was alright.. but my symptoms tell me that 18 is too low for

me..

Mark

> >

> > >Well after months of ED torture - in spite of having great labs

> with

> > >Testosterone levels of 827 and Estradiol of 18,, I reread Dr.

> Eugene

> > >Shippen's book on the T replacement. 10 days ago I started doing

> kegel

> > >exercises 20 times a day for about 15 seconds as he suggests .

> Well it

> > >seems like a miracle but all of a sudden this week my erection

> problems

> > >are history. I am waking with erections and having good enough

> > >erections for full sustained intercourse.

> > >

> > >It just seems too simple but yet I have noticed my pelvic

muscles

> are

> > >much stronger since starting the exercises. I have not used any

> > >Levitra or anything else. Can it be possible such a simple

> exercise

> > >creates such a good result?. I only post this here because other

> guys

> > >may be in my position of having good T levels and yet still have

> ED..

> > >It may be worth a try.

> >

> > An E2 level of 18 is too low in my book. It's on the road to ED.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of

what

> you see. "

> > Phil

> >

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Hey some men do good at 40 if your SHBG is not low I am 20 and keep my E2 at 20

if I go below 15 I have problems lose wood and more. My SHBG is low most are in

the 30's and would need to keep there E2 higher say between 20 and 30 new things

about E2 are coming out everyday. So unless your SHBG is less the 25 your E2 is

to me is to low. Stop taking anything that lowes your E2 like Zinc, DIM or

arimidex. See if you don't get some good morning wood it you do your coming

back up. Just make sure you don't go up to high.

invstri <Invstri@...> wrote: Phil, in your opinion then my

reading of 18 for estradiol is too low

with a total T of 827 .. ??? Of course my doctor said the estradiol

level was alright.. but my symptoms tell me that 18 is too low for

me..

Mark

> >

> > >Well after months of ED torture - in spite of having great labs

> with

> > >Testosterone levels of 827 and Estradiol of 18,, I reread Dr.

> Eugene

> > >Shippen's book on the T replacement. 10 days ago I started doing

> kegel

> > >exercises 20 times a day for about 15 seconds as he suggests .

> Well it

> > >seems like a miracle but all of a sudden this week my erection

> problems

> > >are history. I am waking with erections and having good enough

> > >erections for full sustained intercourse.

> > >

> > >It just seems too simple but yet I have noticed my pelvic

muscles

> are

> > >much stronger since starting the exercises. I have not used any

> > >Levitra or anything else. Can it be possible such a simple

> exercise

> > >creates such a good result?. I only post this here because other

> guys

> > >may be in my position of having good T levels and yet still have

> ED..

> > >It may be worth a try.

> >

> > An E2 level of 18 is too low in my book. It's on the road to ED.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of

what

> you see. "

> > Phil

> >

> > ---------------------------------

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