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There is a lot of talk about doing less area to cut down the converson of E2 and

DHT but it you do this you levels of T will not go up very good. If you have

high E2 and DHT problems try a compounded gel.

http://www.collegepharmacy.com/menshealth/andropause.asp

Phil

hedgesonic <rphnuke@...> wrote:

I apply the gel to the upper arms and shoulders. Can the specific

area applied influence the amount of E2 formed? What techniques can

increase absorption?

Thanks !

>

> I am using Testim testosterone gel now to increase my levels. It

> lists increased muscle mass and decreased body fat as possible

> beneficial effects.

>

> Should I realistically expect this to happen? What about other

> possible negative side effects?

>

> What have been the experiences of the guys on this board? What has

> actually happened to you guys? Thanks again!

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I would love to be furry all over! But its just me!

cant grow a full beard yet :-(

waynegynecomastia <waynegynecomastia@...> wrote:

You think more body hair is good? I can see maybe on the chest, but

on the back? Yikes.

> >

> > I am using Testim testosterone gel now to increase my levels. It

> > lists increased muscle mass and decreased body fat as possible

> > beneficial effects.

> >

> > Should I realistically expect this to happen? What about other

> > possible negative side effects?

> >

> > What have been the experiences of the guys on this board? What has

> > actually happened to you guys? Thanks again!

> >

>

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When I started on TRT I had 3 hairs on my chest. Now it's all over my back and

upper body and I have to trim it every 60 days it just keeps growing. I have

seen the hair on my boys and under my arms get over 6 " lg. :-(

Phil

waynegynecomastia <waynegynecomastia@...> wrote:

You think more body hair is good? I can see maybe on the chest, but

on the back? Yikes.

> >

> > I am using Testim testosterone gel now to increase my levels. It

> > lists increased muscle mass and decreased body fat as possible

> > beneficial effects.

> >

> > Should I realistically expect this to happen? What about other

> > possible negative side effects?

> >

> > What have been the experiences of the guys on this board? What has

> > actually happened to you guys? Thanks again!

> >

>

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despite having low t i have always had loads and loads of hair 4 inch hairs on

back,6 inch on front loads on legs and every wear and i dont intend to lose any

unless something happens naturaly

two things only happend at pubert for me one being gwtting hairy and then vocie

changed

no other expected chanhges in genitals/body mass happened

i can iunderstand if a man naturally does not have haor but those guys or indeed

girrls who get hair taken off are a bit deranged imo

i like hairy women ,i certainly dont like looking at women with no hair in

armpits or genitals its natural it should be there for men and women

regards paul

Re: Re: Testosterone Gel and Muscle, Body Fat, and Other

Effects

When I started on TRT I had 3 hairs on my chest. Now it's all over my back and

upper body and I have to trim it every 60 days it just keeps growing. I have

seen the hair on my boys and under my arms get over 6 " lg. :-(

Phil

waynegynecomastia <waynegynecomastia> wrote:

You think more body hair is good? I can see maybe on the chest, but

on the back? Yikes.

> >

> > I am using Testim testosterone gel now to increase my levels. It

> > lists increased muscle mass and decreased body fat as possible

> > beneficial effects.

> >

> > Should I realistically expect this to happen? What about other

> > possible negative side effects?

> >

> > What have been the experiences of the guys on this board? What has

> > actually happened to you guys? Thanks again!

> >

>

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I dont understand why I dont grow any under my arms or legs and ony on the belly

a little bit. All that using 2 packets of Androdel 5g :-(

I want to try additional treatment

paul wey <promachief@...> wrote:

despite having low t i have always had loads and loads of hair 4 inch

hairs on back,6 inch on front loads on legs and every wear and i dont intend to

lose any unless something happens naturaly

two things only happend at pubert for me one being gwtting hairy and then vocie

changed

no other expected chanhges in genitals/body mass happened

i can iunderstand if a man naturally does not have haor but those guys or indeed

girrls who get hair taken off are a bit deranged imo

i like hairy women ,i certainly dont like looking at women with no hair in

armpits or genitals its natural it should be there for men and women

regards paul

Re: Re: Testosterone Gel and Muscle, Body Fat, and Other

Effects

When I started on TRT I had 3 hairs on my chest. Now it's all over my back and

upper body and I have to trim it every 60 days it just keeps growing. I have

seen the hair on my boys and under my arms get over 6 " lg. :-(

Phil

waynegynecomastia <waynegynecomastia> wrote:

You think more body hair is good? I can see maybe on the chest, but

on the back? Yikes.

> >

> > I am using Testim testosterone gel now to increase my levels. It

> > lists increased muscle mass and decreased body fat as possible

> > beneficial effects.

> >

> > Should I realistically expect this to happen? What about other

> > possible negative side effects?

> >

> > What have been the experiences of the guys on this board? What has

> > actually happened to you guys? Thanks again!

> >

>

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Your lucky to have been diagnosed and treated so early. I only stared when I was

27, dum me. I guess I was too ambarrased.

Now its growing little by little which is great.

waynegynecomastia <waynegynecomastia@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > I am using Testim testosterone gel now to increase my levels. It

> > > lists increased muscle mass and decreased body fat as possible

> > > beneficial effects.

> > >

> > > Should I realistically expect this to happen? What about other

> > > possible negative side effects?

> > >

> > > What have been the experiences of the guys on this board? What has

> > > actually happened to you guys? Thanks again!

> > >

> >

>

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I thought Androgel appeared in 04????

jahost1942 <jahost@...> wrote: When I started on Androgel 5 years

ago I also had 3 hairs on my

chest. Now I think I have 2 hairs. I never noticed an increase in

hair but it seemed to make the hair I had a little longer. Also

during that time I had some intense chemotherapy which had a

permanent effect on my hair so who knows. " "

> > >

> > > I am using Testim testosterone gel now to increase my levels. It

> > > lists increased muscle mass and decreased body fat as possible

> > > beneficial effects.

> > >

> > > Should I realistically expect this to happen? What about other

> > > possible negative side effects?

> > >

> > > What have been the experiences of the guys on this board? What

has

> > > actually happened to you guys? Thanks again!

> > >

> >

>

>

>

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Around 2000 here is a link.

http://www.solvaypharmaceuticals-us.com/newsroom/pressreleases/0,,14593-2-0,00.h\

tm

Phil

Stephan Pochet <spochet@...> wrote:

I thought Androgel appeared in 04????

jahost1942 <jahost@...> wrote: When I started on Androgel 5 years ago I

also had 3 hairs on my

chest. Now I think I have 2 hairs. I never noticed an increase in

hair but it seemed to make the hair I had a little longer. Also

during that time I had some intense chemotherapy which had a

permanent effect on my hair so who knows. " "

> > >

> > > I am using Testim testosterone gel now to increase my levels. It

> > > lists increased muscle mass and decreased body fat as possible

> > > beneficial effects.

> > >

> > > Should I realistically expect this to happen? What about other

> > > possible negative side effects?

> > >

> > > What have been the experiences of the guys on this board? What

has

> > > actually happened to you guys? Thanks again!

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Thank you for the link! What othet treatm,ent options can I seek besides

Androgel and especially something to allow growth of the tests?

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: Around 2000 here is a

link.

http://www.solvaypharmaceuticals-us.com/newsroom/pressreleases/0,,14593-2-0,00.h\

tm

Phil

Stephan Pochet <spochet@...> wrote:

I thought Androgel appeared in 04????

jahost1942 <jahost@...> wrote: When I started on Androgel 5 years ago I

also had 3 hairs on my

chest. Now I think I have 2 hairs. I never noticed an increase in

hair but it seemed to make the hair I had a little longer. Also

during that time I had some intense chemotherapy which had a

permanent effect on my hair so who knows. " "

> > >

> > > I am using Testim testosterone gel now to increase my levels. It

> > > lists increased muscle mass and decreased body fat as possible

> > > beneficial effects.

> > >

> > > Should I realistically expect this to happen? What about other

> > > possible negative side effects?

> > >

> > > What have been the experiences of the guys on this board? What

has

> > > actually happened to you guys? Thanks again!

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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This is good it's for women to men but is full of info.

http://www.ftmguide.org/ttypes.html#cypionate

This link has charts for the different types of TRT.

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6413 & d=1139879356

Phil

Stephan Pochet <spochet@...> wrote:

Thank you for the link! What othet treatm,ent options can I seek

besides Androgel and especially something to allow growth of the tests?

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: Around 2000 here is a link.

http://www.solvaypharmaceuticals-us.com/newsroom/pressreleases/0,,14593-2-0,00.h\

tm

Phil

Stephan Pochet <spochet@...> wrote:

I thought Androgel appeared in 04????

jahost1942 <jahost@...> wrote: When I started on Androgel 5 years ago I

also had 3 hairs on my

chest. Now I think I have 2 hairs. I never noticed an increase in

hair but it seemed to make the hair I had a little longer. Also

during that time I had some intense chemotherapy which had a

permanent effect on my hair so who knows. " "

> > >

> > > I am using Testim testosterone gel now to increase my levels. It

> > > lists increased muscle mass and decreased body fat as possible

> > > beneficial effects.

> > >

> > > Should I realistically expect this to happen? What about other

> > > possible negative side effects?

> > >

> > > What have been the experiences of the guys on this board? What

has

> > > actually happened to you guys? Thanks again!

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

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