Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 We don't know that BCG kept the cancer in check and even my Urologist states, " I don't know if what you are doing or what I am doing is working " . We have a good relationship and are quick to say what's what. For example when the latest exam was to take place they discovered a UTI (Urinary Tract Infection). Of course he prescribed CIPRO. I know the dangers of CIPRO therefore didn't use it but rather two simple 'natural' methods that cleared up the infection without the risk of developing a ruptured Achilles Tendon which can happen with CIPRO. I personally know a retired physician that had this happen. Rather than 'bug' the Urologist with my preferable action I told his nurse who also runs a Breast Cancer Support Group and one I am slowly educating towards more natural methods. The matter of attributing success to some protocol is difficult when one is doing a couple of different things. Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Joe, What were the two natural methods that you used for your urinary tract infection? I was given Cipro too but like you I didn't take it. Barbara **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Anyone haerd of a non sugar glyociside called AGS..from panax ginseng? Supposedly non toxic and 85% success rate with some cancers. I dont know much about it. I'll do some research on the internet on it. Panax ginsneg is one of the recommended helps re cancer.but i guess this is an extract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Don't let the clot, scary as it is, to overly concern you. Clots vs gross blood, that's the issue. The clot is most likely just a sloughing off after-effects of the tumor removal. However, when something comes out that way, it gets one's attention really quickly. Now that you're Doing BCG, I hope you are doing Lam's Vitamin protocol as well! After you finish the BCG, I would hope you introduce NAC into your efforts as well. As for me? I didn't wait because once the BCG is voided, I considered it gone and I continue doing as much as I could myself. Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 thanks... 1) I am taking many supplements, including NAC..I also am taking Poly MVA...at the Cancer Convention this Dr Chan had a lecture on it , and he said that the palladium in it is chemically close to platinum, which is what is in Cisplatin , the chemo they wanted to use on me...supposedly it thgeir literature says the same thing..has the effect of killing the ca cells, without the toxic side effects.. plus I will start with LDN next week.. I believe you said you were also doing LDN? I will get Dr Lamms Oncovite too 2) The BCG went well..no pain, etc...then they sent me home, and I did the laying on one side, then the other side, then on my back , and front, for 2 hours..then the urinating, and using clorox in the bowl..I even put clorox on my underwear, since I " leaked " a little on it.. They also said sometimes the BCg goes systemic, so if I felt ill, to go to ER...so far, I'm OK ----- Original Message ----- From: JCastron Don't let the clot, scary as it is, to overly concern you. Clots vs gross blood, that's the issue. The clot is most likely just a sloughing off after-effects of the tumor removal. However, when something comes out that way, it gets one's attention really quickly. Now that you're Doing BCG, I hope you are doing Lam's Vitamin protocol as well! After you finish the BCG, I would hope you introduce NAC into your efforts as well. As for me? I didn't wait because once the BCG is voided, I considered it gone and I continue doing as much as I could myself. Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 I wanted your suggestions/comments on my case.. i have to send my questions in 2 emails, because the last one was long, and it froze up one me. If you recall, i had a T1 superficial but high grade tumore resected 7 and a half weeks ago..then the bleeding stopped. All tsets shwoed no other cas. I aw an Onco who aid " bladder ca is bad...sneaky..we have to do 6- 8 sesions of chemo, then possiblly radiation, and removal of the blader. i opted for BCG hwich started last wek. i had a clot just before the BCG. I ma going in Thursayd for another BCg..but the bleeding is ocming back.. i have to tell the uRo..From what he said in the apst, they cant/wont do BCg if uts bleeding I see the Onco Friday,a nd I think she will want to put me in chmeo th same day I'm in a quandry..if the tumor came back so quickly, i may have to do the chemo, in hopes of saving the bladder.Any suggestions? Re: [ ] Re: Avoiding Bladder Removal-BCG keeping it in check We don't know that BCG kept the cancer in check and even my Urologist states, " I don't know if what you are doing or what I am doing is working " . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 8:12 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 This is th secongd part of my quustions re the coming back of the bleeding: i think the URO will stop the BCG,and say lets do another cytoscopic exam anfd take another biopsy in a couple of weeks..My quandry is that it may not be good to waste time, if this thing is so aggrseeive,a nd do the chemo..i hate doing it, becaus eof the damage it does to the body, but.. i am doing Wobenzyme, beta glucan, alkalinity, Ploy MVA and LDN,,funal cleanses, etc, but they may not work fast enough 6 sessions of chemo sounds like a minimal amount.. again, any commenta are welcome---- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 , Based on what I've read you might use IPT (Insulin Potentiation Therapy) to achieve the benefits of chemo without much if any side effects. Not all oncos use IPT but it would be worth finding one that does. Phil ---------------------------------------------------------------- -- In , " VINCENT TOKATLIAN " <vttttt@...> wrote: > > This is th secongd part of my quustions re the coming back of the bleeding: > i think the URO will stop the BCG,and say lets do another cytoscopic exam anfd take another biopsy in a couple of weeks..My quandry is that it may not be good to waste time, if this thing is so aggrseeive,a nd do the chemo..i hate doing it, becaus eof the damage it does to the body, but.. > i am doing Wobenzyme, beta glucan, alkalinity, Ploy MVA and LDN,,funal cleanses, etc, but they may not work fast enough > 6 sessions of chemo sounds like a minimal amount.. > again, any commenta are welcome---- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 I'll look into it...How do i find one who does? I know this onco won't know. I'm trying to at least preserve my bladder !! From: philzach , Based on what I've read you might use IPT (Insulin Potentiation Therapy) to achieve the benefits of chemo without much if any side effects. Not all oncos use IPT but it would be worth finding one that does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 , Try this site: http://iptq.com/getipt/ I'm sure you already know QuackWatch is a paid shill for Big Pharma and conventional medicine (i.e. surgery, radiation and full-dose chemo) so any time QuackWatch is negative on a particular therapy it is a good sign, not a bad sign. Also conventional oncos are negative on IPT because IPT doses are maybe 10%-15% of normal full dose chemo which means the onco's income is reduced by a large percentage (a substantial part of their income is based on their mark-up of the chemo drugs they sell to patients). So don't look for unanimous approval of the IPT concept/fact. IPT steps on too many toes for that. But if you do your homework you'll come to understand how powerful IPT can be as a cancer therapy. Phil ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I'll look into it...How do i find one who does? I know this onco won't know. > I'm trying to at least preserve my bladder !! > > From: philzach > , > Based on what I've read you might use IPT (Insulin Potentiation > Therapy) to achieve the benefits of chemo without much if any side > effects. Not all oncos use IPT but it would be worth finding one that does. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 , Another brief IPT reference: Insulin Potentiated Therapy (IPT) Research has shown that most cancer cells have as many as 10-15 times more insulin receptors on their surface than normal cells. When insulin is released into the bloodstream by the pancreas in response to a meal, the insulin attaches to these insulin receptors on the surface of the cell and opens channels in the cell wall to allow nutrients to go into the cell. Because cancer cells have more of these receptors, they can compete for food better than the normal cell. Thus the cancer grows and the normal cells shrink. But, researchers have discovered how we can use this phenomenon to our advantage. If we administer insulin to a person with cancer, we open the channels of the cancer cell as well as the normal cell. But since the cancer cells have ten times more channels to open than a normal cell, we can get them to take in ten times more of something that will damage them. Using this principle, we can give insulin, open the channels, and then give a very small dose of chemotherapy (usually 10% of the recommended anti cancer dose). What occurs is that the cancer cell will take in ten times the dose of the normal cell. The normal cell will be relatively unaffected by this small dose. The cancer cell however has gotten 10 times 10%, or 100% of the medication. This allows us to target the chemo to the cancer cell. This innovative approach was discovered by a physician in Mexico and only recently introduced into the USA. At Lifeworks we have three practitioners trained to deliver this therapy, more than any clinic in the US. This has greatly enhanced the success of our cancer care. For more information on IPT you can log onto www.iptq.com . Complementary cancer care is a specialty at Lifeworks. By weaving together an integrated program to rescue the body from toxicity, infection and deficiency, and targeted low dose chemotherapy using IPT to reduce the tumor, we endeavor to help people with cancer improve their quality and length of life. It was summed up by one grateful patient who said, " the day I found out I had cancer was the was one of the worst days of my life. Everywhere I looked appeared bleak. I knew I was sick, but I didn't want to suffer either. The future looked dim. Then I came to Lifeworks. On my first visit, one of the staff said something that made me feel better. She said, 'none of us is getting out of here alive! And none of us knows how long we have. But while you're here, we're going to help you make it the best it can be.' And for some reason, after she said that, I got my hope back. I could live each day and enjoy it. And I became happy and grateful for the help. And I know, that the day I came to Lifeworks, was one of the best days of my life, and so has been every day since. " For information contact Tamora at Lifeworks Wellness Center at 727 466 6789 or email her at lifeworksinfo@... Please see the I.P.T. Testimonials under our Success Stories link. For more info on IPT: Treating Cancer with Insulin Potentiation Therapy By Ross A. Hauser M.D. and n A. Hauser M.S. R.D. - purchase book Complementary cancer treatment is a specialty and must be administered by a team of experienced practitioners. We have more IPT trained personnel than any clinic in the USA and LifeWorks Wellness Center is considered as state of the art in complementary cancer care. -------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 thanks..Any idea of the cost of treatmnets ? From: philzach , Try this site: http://iptq.com/getipt/ I'm sure you already know QuackWatch is a paid shill for Big Pharma and conventional medicine (i.e. surgery, radiation and full-dose chemo) so any time QuackWatch is negative on a particular therapy it is a good sign, not a bad sign. Also conventional oncos are negative on IPT because IPT doses are maybe 10%-15% of normal full dose chemo which means the onco's income is reduced by a large percentage (a substantial part of their income is based on their mark-up of the chemo drugs they sell to patients). So don't look for unanimous approval of the IPT concept/fact. IPT steps on too many toes for that. But if you do your homework you'll come to understand how powerful IPT can be as a cancer therapy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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