Re: Avoiding Bladder Removal-BCG keeping it in check

August 24, 2008

We don't know that BCG kept the cancer in check and even my Urologist states, " I

don't know if what you are doing or what I am doing is working " . We have a

good relationship and are quick to say what's what.

For example when the latest exam was to take place they discovered a UTI

(Urinary Tract Infection). Of course he prescribed CIPRO. I know the

dangers of CIPRO therefore didn't use it but rather two simple 'natural' methods

that cleared up the infection without the risk of developing a ruptured Achilles

Tendon which can happen with CIPRO. I personally know a retired physician that

had this happen. Rather than 'bug' the Urologist with my preferable action I

told his nurse who also runs a Breast Cancer Support Group and one I am slowly

educating towards more natural methods.

The matter of attributing success to some protocol is difficult when one is

doing a couple of different things.

Joe C.

August 25, 2008

Joe,

What were the two natural methods that you used for your urinary tract

infection?

I was given Cipro too but like you I didn't take it.

Barbara

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August 26, 2008

Anyone haerd of a non sugar glyociside called AGS..from panax ginseng?

Supposedly non toxic and 85% success rate with some cancers.

I dont know much about it. I'll do some research on the internet on it. Panax

ginsneg is one of the recommended helps re cancer.but i guess this is an

extract.

September 9, 2008

Don't let the clot, scary as it is, to overly concern you. Clots vs gross

blood, that's the issue. The clot is most likely just a sloughing off

after-effects of the tumor removal. However, when something comes out that way,

it gets one's attention really quickly.

Now that you're Doing BCG, I hope you are doing Lam's Vitamin protocol as well!

After you finish the BCG, I would hope you introduce NAC into your efforts as

well. As for me? I didn't wait because once the BCG is voided, I considered it

gone and I continue doing as much as I could myself.

Joe C.

September 10, 2008

thanks...

1) I am taking many supplements, including NAC..I also am taking Poly MVA...at

the Cancer Convention this Dr Chan had a lecture on it , and he said that the

palladium in it is chemically close to platinum, which is what is in Cisplatin ,

the chemo they wanted to use on me...supposedly it thgeir literature says the

same thing..has the effect of killing the ca cells, without the toxic side

effects..

plus I will start with LDN next week..

I believe you said you were also doing LDN?

I will get Dr Lamms Oncovite too

2) The BCG went well..no pain, etc...then they sent me home, and I did the

laying on one side, then the other side, then on my back , and front, for 2

hours..then the urinating, and using clorox in the bowl..I even put clorox on my

underwear, since I " leaked " a little on it..

They also said sometimes the BCg goes systemic, so if I felt ill, to go to

ER...so far, I'm OK

----- Original Message -----

From: JCastron

Don't let the clot, scary as it is, to overly concern you. Clots vs gross

blood, that's the issue. The clot is most likely just a sloughing off

after-effects of the tumor removal. However, when something comes out that way,

it gets one's attention really quickly.

Now that you're Doing BCG, I hope you are doing Lam's Vitamin protocol as

well! After you finish the BCG, I would hope you introduce NAC into your efforts

as well. As for me? I didn't wait because once the BCG is voided, I considered

it gone and I continue doing as much as I could myself.

Joe C.

September 17, 2008

I wanted your suggestions/comments on my case.. i have to send my questions in 2

emails, because the last one was long, and it froze up one me.

If you recall, i had a T1 superficial but high grade tumore resected 7 and a

half weeks ago..then the bleeding stopped. All tsets shwoed no other cas.

I aw an Onco who aid " bladder ca is bad...sneaky..we have to do 6- 8 sesions of

chemo, then possiblly radiation, and removal of the blader.

i opted for BCG hwich started last wek. i had a clot just before the BCG. I ma

going in Thursayd for another BCg..but the bleeding is ocming back.. i have to

tell the uRo..From what he said in the apst, they cant/wont do BCg if uts

bleeding

I see the Onco Friday,a nd I think she will want to put me in chmeo th same day

I'm in a quandry..if the tumor came back so quickly, i may have to do the chemo,

in hopes of saving the bladder.Any suggestions?

Re: [ ] Re: Avoiding Bladder Removal-BCG keeping it in

check

We don't know that BCG kept the cancer in check and even my Urologist states,

" I don't know if what you are doing or what I am doing is working " .

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September 17, 2008

This is th secongd part of my quustions re the coming back of the bleeding:

i think the URO will stop the BCG,and say lets do another cytoscopic exam anfd

take another biopsy in a couple of weeks..My quandry is that it may not be good

to waste time, if this thing is so aggrseeive,a nd do the chemo..i hate doing

it, becaus eof the damage it does to the body, but..

i am doing Wobenzyme, beta glucan, alkalinity, Ploy MVA and LDN,,funal cleanses,

etc, but they may not work fast enough

6 sessions of chemo sounds like a minimal amount..

again, any commenta are welcome----

September 17, 2008

,

Based on what I've read you might use IPT (Insulin Potentiation

Therapy) to achieve the benefits of chemo without much if any side

effects. Not all oncos use IPT but it would be worth finding one that

does.

Phil

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-- In , " VINCENT TOKATLIAN " <vttttt@...> wrote:

>

> This is th secongd part of my quustions re the coming back of the

bleeding:

> i think the URO will stop the BCG,and say lets do another

cytoscopic exam anfd take another biopsy in a couple of weeks..My

quandry is that it may not be good to waste time, if this thing is so

aggrseeive,a nd do the chemo..i hate doing it, becaus eof the damage

it does to the body, but..

> i am doing Wobenzyme, beta glucan, alkalinity, Ploy MVA and

LDN,,funal cleanses, etc, but they may not work fast enough

> 6 sessions of chemo sounds like a minimal amount..

> again, any commenta are welcome----

>

September 17, 2008

I'll look into it...How do i find one who does? I know this onco won't know.

I'm trying to at least preserve my bladder !!

From: philzach

,

Based on what I've read you might use IPT (Insulin Potentiation

Therapy) to achieve the benefits of chemo without much if any side

effects. Not all oncos use IPT but it would be worth finding one that does.

September 17, 2008

,

Try this site: http://iptq.com/getipt/

I'm sure you already know QuackWatch is a paid shill for Big Pharma

and conventional medicine (i.e. surgery, radiation and full-dose

chemo) so any time QuackWatch is negative on a particular therapy it

is a good sign, not a bad sign. Also conventional oncos are negative

on IPT because IPT doses are maybe 10%-15% of normal full dose chemo

which means the onco's income is reduced by a large percentage (a

substantial part of their income is based on their mark-up of the

chemo drugs they sell to patients). So don't look for unanimous

approval of the IPT concept/fact. IPT steps on too many toes for

that. But if you do your homework you'll come to understand how

powerful IPT can be as a cancer therapy.

Phil

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>

> I'll look into it...How do i find one who does? I know this onco

won't know.

> I'm trying to at least preserve my bladder !!

>

> From: philzach

> ,

> Based on what I've read you might use IPT (Insulin Potentiation

> Therapy) to achieve the benefits of chemo without much if any side

> effects. Not all oncos use IPT but it would be worth finding one

that does.

>

September 17, 2008

,

Another brief IPT reference:

Insulin Potentiated Therapy (IPT)

Research has shown that most cancer cells have as many as 10-15 times

more insulin receptors on their surface than normal cells. When

insulin is released into the bloodstream by the pancreas in response

to a meal, the insulin attaches to these insulin receptors on the

surface of the cell and opens channels in the cell wall to allow

nutrients to go into the cell. Because cancer cells have more of these

receptors, they can compete for food better than the normal cell. Thus

the cancer grows and the normal cells shrink.

But, researchers have discovered how we can use this phenomenon to our

advantage. If we administer insulin to a person with cancer, we open

the channels of the cancer cell as well as the normal cell. But since

the cancer cells have ten times more channels to open than a normal

cell, we can get them to take in ten times more of something that will

damage them. Using this principle, we can give insulin, open the

channels, and then give a very small dose of chemotherapy (usually 10%

of the recommended anti cancer dose). What occurs is that the cancer

cell will take in ten times the dose of the normal cell. The normal

cell will be relatively unaffected by this small dose. The cancer cell

however has gotten 10 times 10%, or 100% of the medication. This

allows us to target the chemo to the cancer cell. This innovative

approach was discovered by a physician in Mexico and only recently

introduced into the USA. At Lifeworks we have three practitioners

trained to deliver this therapy, more than any clinic in the US. This

has greatly enhanced the success of our cancer care. For more

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Complementary cancer care is a specialty at Lifeworks. By weaving

together an integrated program to rescue the body from toxicity,

infection and deficiency, and targeted low dose chemotherapy using IPT

to reduce the tumor, we endeavor to help people with cancer improve

their quality and length of life. It was summed up by one grateful

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the worst days of my life. Everywhere I looked appeared bleak. I knew

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Then I came to Lifeworks. On my first visit, one of the staff said

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For information contact Tamora at Lifeworks Wellness Center at 727 466

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Please see the I.P.T. Testimonials under our Success Stories link.

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September 17, 2008

thanks..Any idea of the cost of treatmnets ?