Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 It would feed cancer because cancer cells have turned off the aerobic respiration of the mitochondria, and have gone to an anerobic fermentation process, which requires 15x the glucose of normal aerobic cells. Now here's my beef. Scientists can see this happening in the cells. They can look at cancerous cells under microscopes and see how they got there from precancerous cells and from normal cells. What they don't see are little tiny mushrooms or any such thing. Now, it may be almost proper to say that cancer cells ACT LIKE fungus cells, but this doesn't make them fungus cells. Whales act like fish, but they aren't fish. Now if it just so happens that certain anti-fungal agents kill cancer, so be it. That would be great. > > OMG what a light bulb moment. Of course, simple carbs and sugar feeds > cancer, that's Cancer 101. Why would it feed cancer unless it's a fungus!! > > L > Toronto, ON > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Cancer cells are fungal. They are members of a family of 10 pleomorphic organisms that change their form and function based upon the nutritional conditions of the terrain they live in. They are what we call germs. Thier purpose is not to produce disease but to scavenge it. It is their excreted toxins that are detected when we feel sick because these toxic chemicals dilute the blood and lymph supply which can be readily seen in a phase contrast or darkfield microscope. Researchers see this stuff all the time and ignore it because they were taught that what have been calling Russel Bodies are simply artifacts meaning junk that broke loose from somewhere and is circulating in the blood and lymph fluids. They see the fungi and most know what it is they are looking at. They don't see it as a cause and it isn't directly which is why it is ignored. When bacteria and fungi are seen in the body fliuds and tissues they believe that the body has been invaded from outside and must be targeted for chemical and radiological destruction. What they don't understand is that these germs are produced by the body itself and is not the cause of the disease but are the result of it. The disease comes first, the germs arrive after the fact. Killing the germs, ie., destroying cancer cells with chemo, does drop the toxic load on the body and the body condition improves for a while. But the cause of the condition to develop in the first place was never addressed and that is why conventional treatments fail. The Rife/Kendall experiment proved pleomorphism. Rife observed the microbe that is responsible for cancer and this has been well- accepted in most branches of biological research. What isn't understood is that these organisms are pleomorphic and thus become the germs incorrectly thought to originate from outside the body. When Progenitor cryptocides morphs into the myceilial stages, it is a fungus. Earlier in the cycle much smaller organisms were seen by Rife that cannot be seen in normal light microscopes. By transferring these invisible microbes via a microfine filtering process, he was able to induce cancer at will, in laboratory animals. He would then section the resulting tumors, filter them down to sub-visible forms and then infect another animal thus re-producing the disease. When the tumors formed it was obvious that they were coated with a fungus. What Rife proved is that the earlier invisible microbe developed into the fungus and when he altered the terrain, he was able to turn that fungus back into a harmless life form. In other words, cancer is curable by shifting the environment in which is lives. All successful cancer treatments operate on this basic psincipal which the conventional medical circles refuse to accept and this is why they fail to cure this disease. OMG what a light bulb moment. Of course, simple carbs and sugar feeds cancer, that's Cancer 101. Why would it feed cancer unless it's a fungus!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Hello , Well, you can't make that deduction. All cells burn sugar, not just cancer cells and fungus cells. In fact, not all cancer cells are anaerobic. There is generally some impairment of the electron transport chain, but the cells are often not just anaerobic. Mike Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 10:01:19 AM, you wrote: JL> OMG what a light bulb moment. Of course, simple carbs and sugar feeds JL> cancer, that’s Cancer 101. Why would it feed cancer unless it’s a fungus!! JL> L JL> Toronto, ON Best regards, goldenmike mailto:goldenmike@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Cancer cells consume much more sugar than do healthy cells and they are all anaerobes. They ferment sugars and expell lactic acid and carbon monoxide, only using small amounts of oxygen. Oxygen kills them. Dr. Warburg covered this topic thoroughly and was awarded the 1931 Nobel Prize for his efforts. Just for the record, he did not receive a second Nobel Prize. He was nominated for a second prize but Hitler forbade him from accepting the nomination. Hitler did now want a Jew to be a national hero. goldenmike@... wrote: > Hello , > Well, you can't make that deduction. All cells burn sugar, not just > cancer cells and fungus cells. In fact, not all cancer cells are > anaerobic. There is generally some impairment of the electron > transport chain, but the cells are often not just anaerobic. > Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 10:01:19 AM, you wrote: > OMG what a light bulb moment. Of course, simple carbs and sugar feeds cancer, that's Cancer 101. Why would it feed cancer unless it's a fungus!! L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 So Mike -- when you say not all cancer cells are anaerobic, are you saying that certain types of cancer are aerobic, or are you saying that within a given type, some are aerobic and some are anaerobic? > > JL> OMG what a light bulb moment. Of course, simple carbs and sugar feeds > JL> cancer, that?s Cancer 101. Why would it feed cancer unless it?s a fungus!! > > JL> L > JL> Toronto, ON > > Best regards, > goldenmike mailto:goldenmike@... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 So therapies intended to increase ATP and get the mitochodria working would not work on aerobic cancers, I would guess. > >> > >> JL> OMG what a light bulb moment. Of course, simple carbs and sugar > j> feeds > >> JL> cancer, that?s Cancer 101. Why would it feed cancer unless it?s > j> a fungus!! > >> > >> JL> L > >> JL> Toronto, ON > >> > >> Best regards, > >> goldenmike mailto:goldenmike@ > >> > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Mike mailto:goldenmike@... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 jrrjim, The best anti-fungal I know is the Virgin Coconut Oil Detox. http://www.curemanual.com/detox-protocols/intestinal-cleansing/virgin-coconut-oi\ l-detox Couple that with a high fat / low carb diet and you are one your way to great health. Edwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 I can get the coconut oil. Can you supply the virgin? > > jrrjim, > > The best anti-fungal I know is the Virgin Coconut Oil Detox. > http://www.curemanual.com/detox-protocols/intestinal-cleansing/virgin- coconut-oil-detox > > Couple that with a high fat / low carb diet and you are one your way to > great health. > > Edwin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 I agree with your description but remember that I did say that it uses some oxygen. But nonetheless, cancer cells are primarily anaerobic. When adequate levels of oxygen are applied, the cancer dies. As far as lung cancer is concerned, if adequate levels were able to reach the external aivioli there probably wouldn't be any cancer. My uncle, who died from emphasema would be a good example. His lungs were coated with tar, a known carcinogen. His lungs were not aspirated with enough to assimilate needed levels of oxygen and he developed cancer beneath the crud that caused him such stress and strain when breathing. The fact that he lived as long as he did is testimony as to the robustness of the human frame. People who smoke are insane! PawPaw and Protocell address the electrical potentials of the cytoplasm to nucleus ratio as infected cells have near apoptosis threshold potentials. By driving down overall tissue potentials like all boats in a falling tide, the weakened cells which are the cancer cells expire. That reaction has little to do with oxygen potentials but has much to do with pH which is primarily electrical. > c> Cancer cells consume much more sugar than do healthy cells and they are all anaerobes. They ferment sugars and expell lactic acid and carbon monoxide, only using small amounts of oxygen. Oxygen kills them. Dr. Warburg covered this topic thoroughly and was awarded the 1931 Nobel Prize for his efforts. Just for the record, he did not receive a second Nobel Prize. He was nominated for a second prize but Hitler forbade him from accepting the nomination. Hitler did now want a Jew to be a national hero. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 There are no aerobic cancers! Partial aerobes, yes, but they are funcitionally anaerobes and all they succomb to increased oxygen levels. That is the key to eliminating them. Try to think Ockham's Razor: Keep it simple... > > > > SNIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Yeh, but the mechanism is still electrical. It is the drop in potential that causes the cells to expire. here is a quote from the following website: http://alternativecancer.us/pawpaw.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Oops! The quote didn't go through. Here it is again: " By reducing this voltage level from 70 to 110 mv to something in the 50 mv region, normal cells can still function. However, cancer and viral cells cannot process energy at this low voltage level and start to starve. The process of starving is a slower process than being poisoned which is why Paw Paw works slower than chemo. When Paw Paw does not work,it is usually because it is not absorbed sufficiently into the cells of the body to cause this voltage reduction. Both Cantron and Protocel are designed to cause this voltage reduction. If Paw Paw does not work for a person, Cantron or Protocel may work. The pharmacology of Cantron and Protocel have an expanded explanation for the role ATP energy reduction in cancer treatment... " > > Yeh, but the mechanism is still electrical. It is the drop in > potential that causes the cells to expire. here is a quote from the > following website: > > http://alternativecancer.us/pawpaw.htm > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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