Re: Cancer spreading

[Guest guest]

Yes I am on the flaxseed oil list and I do think it has spread to my lungs and

throat and I was hoping someone has the experience to tell

me.

Thanks, Robyn

Oh dear, Robyn! I sure hope it hasn't spread to your throat and lungs.

Robyn, didn't I see you on the flaxseedoil2 list? Rhoda

[Guest guest]

Robyn- Stand for your healing, rebuke the disease and command it to go

in the name of Jesus, confess healing scriptures such as " Surely He has

borne our sicknesses and carried our pains, yet we did esteem him

stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he [was] wounded for our

transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement

of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Isaiah 53:4-5 " By Jesus' stripes I was healed, " 1 2:24

Many people, even those given a terminal diagnosis, have stopped of

tumors with LDN, which boosts the immune system to attack cancer cells

by increasing secretion of natural endorphins and tying up opiate

receptors of cancer cells.

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> Yes I am on the flaxseed oil list and I do think it has spread to my

> lungs and throat and I was hoping someone has the experience to tell

> me.

> Thanks, Robyn

[Guest guest]

What dosage of LDN do you need for cancer treatment?

~Amber

-- Re: [ ] Cancer spreading

Robyn- Stand for your healing, rebuke the disease and command it to go

in the name of Jesus, confess healing scriptures such as " Surely He has

borne our sicknesses and carried our pains, yet we did esteem him

stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he [was] wounded for our

transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement

of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Isaiah 53:4-5 " By Jesus' stripes I was healed, " 1 2:24

Many people, even those given a terminal diagnosis, have stopped of

tumors with LDN, which boosts the immune system to attack cancer cells

by increasing secretion of natural endorphins and tying up opiate

receptors of cancer cells.

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[Guest guest]

On Jun 20, 2008, at 7:54 PM, Stargazer wrote:

> What dosage of LDN do you need for cancer treatment?

>

> ~Amber

Amber- Naltrexone comes in 50 mg tablets and the low dose is 4.5 mg.

I do my own compounding but some people order from a compounding

pharmacy that does it for them.

[Guest guest]

robyn ,

how long have you been taking the flaxseed oil ..are you on a

budwig diet..

>

> > Yes I am on the flaxseed oil list and I do think it has spread to

my

> > lungs and throat and I was hoping someone has the experience to

tell

> > me.

> > Thanks, Robyn

>

[Guest guest]

I just saw a post that said ldn takes 6 months to start working. I dont think I

can wait that long.

Thanks,

Robyn

From: roderick_e_lorenzo <roderick_e_lorenzo@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Cancer spreading

Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 2:25 PM

robyn ,

how long have you been taking the flaxseed oil ..are you on a

budwig diet..

>

> > Yes I am on the flaxseed oil list and I do think it has spread to

my

> > lungs and throat and I was hoping someone has the experience to

tell

> > me.

> > Thanks, Robyn

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

If you are in a hurry and you have the strength for fasting, VCO

detoxing will give you time to heal:

1. Cleanses your colon.

2. Heals Leaky gut.

3. Systemically gets rid of fungi / yeast / candida.

4. Resets the flora and fauna in your gut with probiotics.

5. Cures sweets cravings as well.

Do 3 days of VCO detoxing at a time. (space 1 week apart)

http://www.curemanual.com/detox-protocols/intestinal-cleansing/virgin-coconut-oi\

l-detox

Good skill,

Edwin

robyn howell wrote:

> I just saw a post that said ldn takes 6 months to start working. I

> dont think I can wait that long.

[Guest guest]

Dee, the moderator of the LDN forum, was given 4-9 months to live and

is now 16 months past that diagnosis. Obviously the LDN was helping

all along. The endorphin levels are increased by LDN immediately, it

just takes a while to totally stabilize the tumors, but it is working

on them all the time.

On Jun 24, 2008, at 6:22 PM, robyn howell wrote:

> I just saw a post that said ldn takes 6 months to start working. I

> dont think I can wait that long.

> Thanks,

> Robyn

[Guest guest]

What kind of success has it had overall on people? Percentages?

Thanks, Robyn

> I just saw a post that said ldn takes 6 months to start working. I

> dont think I can wait that long.

> Thanks,

> Robyn

[Guest guest]

Hello Roderick,

I am stage 4B (lung mets) and was told Feb 5th 2007.

I have been on LDN since Feb 12th 2007 for 17 months

now. Doing just great and my new doctors are amazed

saying " keep doing what I am doing "

There are others also you can discuss with them at:

LDN_4_cancer/

Dee

--- roderick <roderick_e_lorenzo@...> wrote:

> gud day

> are there any reports that it worked for stage 4 ca

> w/metastasis?

[Guest guest]

So glad to hear this is a met kicker! What dosage of LDN are you taking

Dee?

~Amber

-------Original Message-------

I am stage 4B (lung mets) and was told Feb 5th 2007.

I have been on LDN since Feb 12th 2007 for 17 months

now. Doing just great and my new doctors are amazed

saying " keep doing what I am doing "

There are others also you can discuss with them at:

LDN_4_cancer/

Dee

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Iam so happy your doing well .. its not me its my mother she

is stage 4 not yet determined if from breast or ovary .. its realy

like the whole world fell on us when we found out this april

2008 .. we are currently on amygdalin (b17) and pancreatic enzymes

plus fruit and vegetable diet . flaxseed supplements a lot actualy .

Aside from LDN what else do you do , to treat it .I hope your getting

well would continue and would there be any contraindications of

LDN..

>

> > gud day

> > are there any reports that it worked for stage 4 ca

> > w/metastasis?

>

[Guest guest]

I will reply to you privately with  all the links  as difficult on this site.

Dee

[Guest guest]

Dr. Harold Manner stated in his book that amygdalin/laetrile did not

work until it was combined with vitamin A and digestive enzymes. The

studies that found B17 worthless were only done with B17 alone. Dr.

Manner wondered why the studies failed so he followed the techniques

used and his results were also failures. He traveled to Germany and

met with Hans Neiper, who was getting success using it. They

determined that there was a synergism among these three items that

caused the release of the cyanide inside the cancer cells. Dr. Sigura

also made this important observation. Amygdalin works! It is

incorrectly called laetrile but that is OK as it is only a naming

technicality. Amygdalin becomes laetrile when ingested. The important

fact is that this is a very powerful cancer fighting combination when

applied correctly.

[Guest guest]

hi ,

Just a question about the message below , you said he

" Dr.Manner wondered why the studies failed so he followed the

techniques

used and his results were also failures. " so did he combine the

three (is it b17 + vitamin A + pancreatic enzymes ) " did the book

give out the correct dosage, then he went to germany.. what did he

find out? is it the same ( b17 + vitamin A + pancreatic enzymes )..

>

> Dr. Harold Manner stated in his book that amygdalin/laetrile did not

> work until it was combined with vitamin A and digestive enzymes. The

> studies that found B17 worthless were only done with B17 alone. Dr.

> Manner wondered why the studies failed so he followed the techniques

> used and his results were also failures. He traveled to Germany and

> met with Hans Neiper, who was getting success using it. They

> determined that there was a synergism among these three items that

> caused the release of the cyanide inside the cancer cells. Dr.

Sigura

> also made this important observation. Amygdalin works! It is

> incorrectly called laetrile but that is OK as it is only a naming

> technicality. Amygdalin becomes laetrile when ingested. The

important

> fact is that this is a very powerful cancer fighting combination

when applied correctly.

>

[Guest guest]

He used the protocols from the major American research centers which

only tested the Amygdalin. His failures were the same as the

researchers reported as the test animals all died. It appeared to him

and his research team that the substance had no merit. He knew of a

few American doctors who were reporting good results and when he

asked them what they were doing differently. They all said that they

got their info from Hans Neiper. It was Neiper that treated President

Reagan. Neiper told him to use Vitamin A, B17 and digestive enzymes

and he would get good results. He followed the advice and reported

that that combination worked. He didn't give the amounts he used but

I'm sure they are published somewhere. The book 'The Death of Cancer'

was borrowed and I don't remember which university he was doing his

research in. I'm sure that the records of his experiments would be in

the archives of the school. The book was published in 1978.

" roderick_e_lorenzo " wrote:

> ...did he combine the three (is it b17 + vitamin A + pancreatic enzymes )..

did the book give out the correct dosage, then he went to germany.. what did

he find out? is it the same ( b17 + vitamin A + pancreatic enzymes )..

>

>

>

>Dr. Harold Manner stated in his book that amygdalin/laetrile did

not work until it was combined with vitamin A and digestive enzymes.

The studies that found B17 worthless were only done with B17 alone.

Dr. Manner wondered why the studies failed so he followed the

techniques used and his results were also failures. He traveled to Germany and

met with Hans Neiper, who was getting success using it. They determined that

there was a synergism among these three items that caused the release of the

cyanide inside the cancer cells. Dr.

> Sigura also made this important observation. Amygdalin works! It is

> > incorrectly called laetrile but that is OK as it is only a naming

> > technicality. Amygdalin becomes laetrile when ingested. The

> important fact is that this is a very powerful cancer fighting combination

when applied correctly.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Mike:

This may sound judgmental, but maybe your wife has underlying mental

trauma issues -- perhaps post traumatic stress disorder. If she has

any abuse in her past this could be the case.

Do you think something like EFT might clear up these issues and open up

treatment possibilities?

[Guest guest]

Hello jrrjim,

I'm sure she has post traumatic stress, not related to any abuse, but

secondary to a lifetime of physical misery. She had a bad reaction to

a vaccination when she was an infant and ended up in the hospital for

weeks. She's never been well since. She had hospitalizations in

childhood with critical low white cell counts, the theory being that

it was some unknown viremia. She had severe head pain as a child and

missed nearly a year of school. She had the youngest onset of severe

endometriosis anyone had ever seen, having multiple surgeries for that

in her early 20s. She was on danacrine hormonal therapy for an entire

year in 1986. When she had a hysterectomy two years ago and had two

grapefruit and one orange sized cysts on her ovaries. She has Arnold

Chiari malformation of the skull with her brainstem buldging out of the foramen

magnum. This is not a complete list, but I think you get the point.

As far as EFT is concerned...we know about it and her

Naturopath/medical doc (the guy who prescribes the naltrexone) suggested it. I

guess the guy

who created it is a friend of his. She has no interest in it. She had

many conventional psychotherapists who tried to help with the

understandable depression, including some into some off-center type

therapies. She's been (against my objections) on various

antidepressants. Those don't work at all. (Of course she's tried all

the alternative versions also)

And, of course fibromyalgia......

Mike

Friday, June 27, 2008, 9:53:24 AM, you wrote:

j> Mike:

j> This may sound judgmental, but maybe your wife has underlying mental

j> trauma issues -- perhaps post traumatic stress disorder. If she has

j> any abuse in her past this could be the case.

j> Do you think something like EFT might clear up these issues and open up

j> treatment possibilities?

--

Best regards,

goldenmike mailto:goldenmike@...

[Guest guest]

Does she have a spinal syrinx due to the chiari malformation?

>

> j> Mike:

>

> j> This may sound judgmental, but maybe your wife has underlying

mental

> j> trauma issues -- perhaps post traumatic stress disorder. If

she has

> j> any abuse in her past this could be the case.

>

> j> Do you think something like EFT might clear up these issues and

open up

> j> treatment possibilities?

>

>

>

>

>

>

> --

> Best regards,

> goldenmike mailto:goldenmike@...

>

[Guest guest]

Hello jrrjim,

No. The malformation is enough to sort of be " on the fence " . Most

surgeons would not touch it due to risk benefit ratios. There were

some a few years ago who were promoting the surgery as a remedy for

fibromyalgia. Since that time we have seen a couple of people who

have had the surgery but regreted the decision later. They were

actually worse. I sort of kept Lori from having it because I had a

bad feeling about it. She wanted to have it at the time. Now she

does not talk about it much.

Mike

Friday, June 27, 2008, 12:53:15 PM, you wrote:

j> Does she have a spinal syrinx due to the chiari malformation?

j>

>>

[Guest guest]

My wife has a spinal syrinx due to an auto accident. It isn't very

big, but causes her excrutiating pain. But all the doctors say she

must be imagining the pain. Very frustrating.

> >>

>

[Guest guest]

Those anti-depressants cause a lot of damage.

Is she still on those?

A high fat low carb diet will help cure depression.

You can begin with a homo optimus diet.

Then move on to a raw paleolithic diet.

goldenmike wrote:

.... She's been (against my objections) on various antidepressants. Those don't

work at all. ... Mike

[Guest guest]

Have you seen a chiropractor for that spinal syrinx problem?

jrrjim wrote:

> My wife has a spinal syrinx due to an auto accident. It isn't very

> big, but causes her excrutiating pain. But all the doctors say she

> must be imagining the pain. Very frustrating.

[Guest guest]

Actually, chiropractic manipulation would be really bad for a spinal

syrinx, at least in the area of the syrinx.

> > My wife has a spinal syrinx due to an auto accident. It isn't very

> > big, but causes her excrutiating pain. But all the doctors say she

> > must be imagining the pain. Very frustrating.

>

[Guest guest]

Was that something the chiropractor said?

jrrjim wrote:

> Actually, chiropractic manipulation would be really bad for a spinal

> syrinx, at least in the area of the syrinx.