Guest guest Posted April 2, 2000 Report Share Posted April 2, 2000 Cliff, Most of what you say is true, but it is still best to dig deeper. One of the true nasties, cyclophosphamide, is actually an immuno stimulant when used in very small amounts. It can potentiate a cancer vaccine when used 3-4 days prior. I know of several such examples. One must look at the details--thats where the truth is. I've seen study after study of squamous cell carcinoma being treated with disastrous effect with cisplatin, yet I've seen a Asian study where it produced a 90% remission rate when administered in a different way. chemo > Since some of us are talking chemo, lets give some ideas on how it works. > > All of them are poinsons that kill cancer cells. Granted there are benefits > to the salesmen selling Mercedes to the doctors and stockholders of drug > companies, lets check other results. > > Chemo kills cancer cells. It also kills everything else including the > immune system. The hope is that the body rebuilds but the cancer cells > won't. Isn't THAT wishful thinking! > > It may kill 95% to 97%, or even more of the cancer cells. One is now in > remission. However, the cells that are not killed can handle that chemo and > continue to reproduce. By and By the tumor it there again. Now the first > chemo is ineffective, a friend told me her chemo " wore out " , and a new one > must be used. Repeat whole procedure, maybe even more remission. > > With each new chemo patient is progressively weaker as the immune system > can't recover. Finally, the patient is too weak, cancer enzymes kill the > appetite and the victim gradually starves to death, in many cases [some of > which I knew] with the doctors still pumping in the chemo. > > We have known some lucky people who the doctors gave up and quit the chemo > who then got on the flaxseed oil and cottage cheese and recovered and today > are fine. That is not an uncommon situation with a significant number that > have gone to Dr. Budwig. > > Three years ago a friend of my son's heard a news broadcast that said that a > study just completed at a major cancer center concluded that of those who > die of cancer half die of cancer and half die of chemo and chemo only helps > 2 to 3 per cent. That was buried immediately. > > If anyone knows of any studies that show conclusively that chemo actually > gives permanent remission and good quality of life to a signifacant > percentage of those on whom it is used I will certainly stand corrected and > get lost. > > My only concern is whether anything would happen that the body might no > longer respond to the Omega 3, but as yet I haven't seen it. I do not know > of anyone who has used it longer than I have. It probably is not the magic > bullet, but in my case it is close enough. > > Cliff > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > @Backup- Protect and Access your data any time, any where on the net. > Try @Backup FREE and recieve 300 points from mypoints.com Install now: > 1/2345/7/_/378/_/954705220/ > > -- Talk to your group with your own voice! > -- VoiceChatPage?listName=cures for cancer & m=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2000 Report Share Posted April 2, 2000 >Since some of us are talking chemo, lets give some ideas on how it works. > >All of them are poinsons that kill cancer cells. Granted there are benefits >to the salesmen selling Mercedes to the doctors and stockholders of drug >companies, lets check other results. > >Chemo kills cancer cells. It also kills everything else including the >immune system. The hope is that the body rebuilds but the cancer cells >won't. Isn't THAT wishful thinking! > >It may kill 95% to 97%, or even more of the cancer cells. One is now in >remission. However, the cells that are not killed can handle that chemo and >continue to reproduce. By and By the tumor it there again. Now the first >chemo is ineffective, a friend told me her chemo " wore out " , and a new one >must be used. Repeat whole procedure, maybe even more remission. > >With each new chemo patient is progressively weaker as the immune system >can't recover. Finally, the patient is too weak, cancer enzymes kill the >appetite and the victim gradually starves to death, in many cases [some of >which I knew] with the doctors still pumping in the chemo. > >We have known some lucky people who the doctors gave up and quit the chemo >who then got on the flaxseed oil and cottage cheese and recovered and today >are fine. That is not an uncommon situation with a significant number that >have gone to Dr. Budwig. > >Three years ago a friend of my son's heard a news broadcast that said that a >study just completed at a major cancer center concluded that of those who >die of cancer half die of cancer and half die of chemo and chemo only helps >2 to 3 per cent. That was buried immediately. > >If anyone knows of any studies that show conclusively that chemo actually >gives permanent remission and good quality of life to a signifacant >percentage of those on whom it is used I will certainly stand corrected and >get lost. > >My only concern is whether anything would happen that the body might no >longer respond to the Omega 3, but as yet I haven't seen it. I do not know >of anyone who has used it longer than I have. It probably is not the magic >bullet, but in my case it is close enough. > >Cliff Hello again Cliff, Omega 3 as well as Omega 6 are essential to being alive. Preferrably they should be undamaged by heat, light or oxygen exposure. In raw food, they are protected because of the naturally occuring relationships they are found to be in. I think you are " right on " regarding what you have done and the direction you are staying with. Warm regards, Joe Bentley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2000 Report Share Posted May 17, 2000 Paige comments: > I have something to say but I have been afraid to say it to this > group because you all seem to be so against chemo. Let me tell you > about chemo it gave me 2 years with my mom we would not have had. > She is dying from end stage ovarian cancer but the 2 years she > did get she got from chemo.It may be a poison but I will never > ever put it down because of what it did for her. I don't blame > chemo for her dying not all one bit. I blame the tumors plain and > simple.You all may not like chemo but don't you dare down those of > us who have loved ones who used chemo. For my mom it gave her 2 > of the happiest years of her life with us. And never once did she > get vomity sick with it. That is all I am going to say Paige, Thank you for posting. Many of us get so wound up with the bad side of chemo that sometimes we forget that alternative is not always the best route for all. Ovarian cancer is difficult to treat with any method and it sounds like the chemo was a good choice for your mother's situation. Many who use chemo find benefit from adding alternatives methods to the protocol for an integrative approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2000 Report Share Posted May 17, 2000 Dear Paige.. Good for You for speaking out what you feel..this is also a part of healing..being able to let out the inner grief. Having a ill love one is very stressful and once in awhile we need to let off steam. It does the body good. And clears the mind..Disease will be with us for along time to come. We can not pass it buy. In one form or another it reaches every household. As long as we have this world to live in there is no positive cure..but we can find ways to help ease the stress of it all. And two years longer with a loved one, is better than we have in many cases expected. Thank God he gave you these two years. I also know of a lady that had Chemo..without it she also would have not been able to spend another three with her family. She knew she was living on borrowed time. But this was back in 1950's when there wasn't much else to rely upon. I've seen her in very distress times while I cared for her and the household. Orie was the sweetest person, strong in her faith and taught me how to cope with cooking, cleaning, and caring for a ill person. It gave me an experience I shall never forget. Even on her deathbed she gave me good advice. But laughingly she said. " You will never make a pot of beans, if you don't add the fat and a pinch of backing soda....and neither will you make a good wife.. if you don't take advice from a dying old hag, that has had one stubborn old man. " ( long story ). But I had on this day, burned the beans to a black crisp..and had fed the cocker spaniel " Corky " , all the fat on the pork. Orie never left me forget this lesson. " You must Judy watch that pot while it is cooking..add water or broth as it is going to vapor out fast. ( which I hadn't done )..being a twelve year old girl, I figured the beans would make it on their own once they were on the range cooking. " And the next time, don' feed Corky all the good suet. " She laughed and laughed. " Your going to be putting me into the grave before I'm ready to go. " And another lesson was.. that laughter was the medicine that kept her going another few days. I was in school when she passed away. And her family said the last few words was. " Tell Miz Judy that I will be watching over her as she cooks beans. " then she in great pain laughed and said. " Toooot,tootie toot. " and laughed some more. Now every time I make beans of any kind I have Orie on my mind. What a wise lady she was, and what a great teacher I had. So Paige go on and live a little you deserve to let loose and be free in your thoughts and in your deeds. I congratulate you for the boldness you have portrayed today. Sincerely, One of Your Best Friends, Judy Chemdnesday, May 17, 2000 o > I have something to say but I have been afraid to say it to this > group because you all seem to be so against chemo. Let me tell you > about chemo it gave me 2 years with my mom we would not have had. > She is dying from end stage ovarian cancer but the 2 years she > did get she got from chemo.It may be a poison but I will never > ever put it down because of what it did for her. I don't blame > chemo for her dying not all one bit. I blame the tumors plain and > simple.You all may not like chemo but don't you dare down those of > us who have loved ones who used chemo. For my mom it gave her 2 > of the happiest years of her life with us. And never once did she > get vomity sick with it. That is all I am going to say > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Make new friends, find the old at Classmates.com: > 1/4052/10/_/378/_/958574465/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2000 Report Share Posted July 23, 2000 There are a lot of posts since last night I need to read. But this one I must comment on before I head out for the morning. Since when are the Mexican cancer clinics the authority on palliative care and chemo? And which Mexican cancer clinics are you talking about ? Are they all top notch in their practice of medicine, or do they vary? How about some more information on agents being used that have a good track record. What agents are they, what is their track record, and what is your source of information please? I think the use of any chemo in some Mexican clinics would be a source of concern for the clinics there that knock all chemo. Thank you, Bill Ross VGammill wrote: > comments: > > > I know far more people killed by chemo than were killed by the cancer. > > , > Whenever a convincing case cannot be made that there is an inkling of > a hope for a chemo-cure, the big lie of chemo-palliation is foisted. What > an oxymoron. > I do want to say that some light chemos are sometimes used on certain > cases at some of the Mexican cancer clinics. The agents used have a track > record of being helpful without causing side effects or bombing the immune > system. The border clinics almost never use the cisplatins and adriamycin > type drugs: it is just not necessary. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Never lose a file again. Protect yourself from accidental deletes, > overwrites, and viruses with @Backup. > Try @Backup it's easy, it's safe, and it's FREE! > Click here to receive 300 MyPoints just for trying @Backup. > 1/6349/13/_/378/_/964352920/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 Saw your note on receiving Chemo. Do you mean as in for cancer? I did hear of patients who developed cancer, were treated with chemo, and got rid of both cancer and lyme. They feel great. Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 Irene, If you were referring to Larry's post. I don't think it is the type of chemo for cancer. If I recall correctly, something about killing T-cells. I could be wrong. He has all the sx of MS & LD, no mention ever of cancer. I just hope that this works for him as he has been through hell for a couple years now. Marta ----- Original Message ----- From: <renier1@...> > Saw your note on receiving Chemo. Do you mean as in for cancer? I did hear > of patients who developed cancer, were treated with chemo, and got rid of > both cancer and lyme. They feel great. > Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Irene, I have not been diagnosed with cancer. The chemo (Navatrone) is for treatment of lymphoma though is kind of chemo light, every 3 months. MS involves T cells and the chemo stops the production of T cells. Columbia did a study that has found Bb hiding in T cells in vivo (in the body) thus the possibility of getting to Bb if you get their hiding place. Problem is we have thousands of different T cells from those that started immunity at birth to new ones being produced each day. The trick is finding the ones Bb hides in (they found that AIDS hides in the oldest memory T cell and that is what makes it so difficult to get to). I don't know if this treatment will help, I guess such is the difficulty of being a guinea pig. Larry NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 Larry I would be interested in hearing if this works.....my husband was just asking if there was some type of chemo that might work....I would be willing to give anything a try at this point as my quality of life seems to be slipping away.....could you send me a private e- mail and let me know who you are seeing for your lyme and where you are from....... thanks so much Amy a1m1bishop@... > Irene, > I have not been diagnosed with cancer. The chemo (Navatrone) is for > treatment of lymphoma though is kind of chemo light, every 3 months. MS > involves T cells and the chemo stops the production of T cells. Columbia > did a study that has found Bb hiding in T cells in vivo (in the body) thus > the possibility of getting to Bb if you get their hiding place. Problem is > we have thousands of different T cells from those that started immunity at > birth to new ones being produced each day. The trick is finding the ones Bb > hides in (they found that AIDS hides in the oldest memory T cell and that is > what makes it so difficult to get to). > I don't know if this treatment will help, I guess such is the difficulty > of being a guinea pig. > Larry NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 In a message dated 8/4/02 6:49:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, writes: > .....prayers for your upcoming chemo and radiation. Keep us posted. I > > know the chemo can make one very sick......who will be there besides DH to > help with the kids? Margaret, supposedly, it's not like how it was years ago. My doctor already gave me scripts for nausea to take before treatment, just in case. And it's not all at once...it's one treatment every 3 wks. for a total of four rounds; will be done November, then start radiation. Hopefully, MHMR will help out with respite. Thankfully, all this will begin when school starts up again, so at least the kids will be in school and I can rest during the day. My first treatment is Aug. 15th (we are STILL going to Hawaii from the 8th-12th!!) and my first day back to work is scheduled for the 30th. I should know by then whether or not I will feel up to it. And I only work 4 hrs., I can schedule my treatments on Friday's after work and then I'll have the whole weekend to relax and recoup. I have heard some women worked full time and never missed. It's like being pregnant, some women throw up, some feel fine. They say if you were okay during pregnancy, sometimes it's the same during chemo. I never threw up, so maybe I'll be okay! Hubby won't travel as often those months, but if I'm okay, I want him to be able to keep a roof over our heads, we'll see. 's EKG, echo and swallow function were all normal, thank God. We still need to do his tonsils/adenoids, tongue and dental work plus that intestinal biopsy. Probably put it off till we see how I react to chemo....too much, too soon. Thanks for all the cards and wishes, I LOVE it! Love, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 In a message dated 8/4/2002 11:25:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Ltb3105@... writes: > 's EKG, echo and swallow function were all normal, thank God. We still > need to do his tonsils/adenoids, tongue and dental work plus that > intestinal > biopsy. Hi , Relieved to hear that 's tests were normal. Sounds like you have everything under control. I will be thinking of you on the 15th and pray that you handle the chemo without any problems. Charlyne Mom to Zeb 9 DS/OCD ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 , You amaze me!!!!!! You are not only holding up well through all of this, but you're doing it sooooooo well. I'm glad things are not as bad as they could have been with . I'm praying that you both breeze through the upcoming events and things get back to normal......well, as close to normal as we'll ever get! (((((hugs))))) X12 Gail :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 -I second what Gail has said! , you are our hero!! Dawn -- In @y..., smilinggail@a... wrote: > , > You amaze me!!!!!! You are not only holding up well through all of this, but > you're doing it sooooooo well. I'm glad things are not as bad as they could > have been with . I'm praying that you both breeze through the upcoming > events and things get back to normal......well, as close to normal as we'll > ever get! > (((((hugs))))) X12 > Gail :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 SIDE EFFECTS OF INTERFERON, PEGYLATED INTERFERON, CONSENSUS INTERFERON AND RIBAVIRIN THERAPY General and miscellaneous: Fever, chills, flu-like symptoms, headache, dizziness, hearing loss, insomnia, fatigue, inflammation and pain in the joints, muscle aches, muscle contractions/cramps, numbness and tingling, nerve damage, thinning of hair, weight loss or gain, excessive sweating (especially at night), thyroid dysfunction, parathyroid dysfunction, increased or decreased level of potassium Any existing medical condition can be worsened by these medications. Gastrointestinal: Nausea, vomiting, heartburn, loss of appetite, changes in taste, dry mouth, dry cough, diarrhea, initiation or worsening of inflammatory bowel disease, celiac disease Cardiovascular Disorders: Chest pain, heart attack, congestive heart failure, stroke, low or high blood pressure any of which can lead to death Lung Disorders: Difficulty breathing, asthma, pneumonia, interstitial pneumonitis, bronchiolitis obliterans, lung infection and/or infiltrates, emphysema, pulmonary sarcoidosis (wide spread lesion forming in the lungs) Renal Dysfunction: Decrease in kidney function and failure leading to dialysis dependency Liver Toxicity: Jaundice, elevated liver enzymes, liver pain, decreased liver function Vision Disorders: Changes in vision which could be permanent, including blindness in one or both eyes Brain Disorders: Cerebral atrophy (brain size decreases), aseptic meningitis (inflammation of the lining of the brain without evidence of infection), Bell’s palsy or other facial palsy (temporary partial paralysis involving the eyelid and cheek), decreased short term memory, decreased cognitive abilities. Some of these side effects may not resolve after therapy is completed. SIDE EFFECTS OF INTERFERON, PEGYLATED INTERFERON, CONSENSUS INTERFERON AND RIBAVIRIN THERAPY Autoimmune Disorders: Initiation of or worsening of lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, psoriasis, inflammatory bowel disease, Sjogren’s disease (dry mouth and eyes). These side effects may or may not resolve with completion of therapy. Blood Disorders: Low platelet count (thrombocytopenia), low red (anemia) and white blood cell count (neutropenia and leukopenia), decreased clotting time, idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura (autoimmune disorder which causes destruction of platelets), blood clot formation (thrombosis) in extremities or lungs Skin Reactions: Rashes, lichen planus, dry or itchy skin, lupus erythematous (skin infection), psoriasis (skin disorder causing red patches with white scales), s Syndrome (lesions and redness of the skin produced by congestion/broken capillaries), injection sites reactions or redness, injections site infections, transient erythema (redness), eczema, depilation (hair loss), skin necrosis, vasculitis, initiation or worsening of vitiligo Drug Addiction: Relapse of sobriety or IV drug use dependence, overdose of alcohol or drugs Psychiatric, Psychological, Mood and Behavioral Problems: Depression, anxiety, irritability, lack of concentration, insomnia, mental confusion, hallucinations, mania, bipolar disorders, suicidal thoughts and attempts, homicidal thoughts, psychosis, paranoia, neurosis, disorders of psychomotor activity, vegetative symptoms. Organic personality syndrome characterized by irritability and short temper. An organic effective disorder marked by extreme lability, depression and tearfulness. Delirium marked by clouding of consciousness, agitation, paranoia, and suicide potential. There are known cases of completed suicide and homicide while taking this medication. Women’s Health Issues: Menstrual disorders, inability to have children, spontaneous abortions and birth defects. SOME OF THESE SIDE EFFECTS MAY BE SEVERE ENOUGH TO CAUSE DEATH. SOME OF THESE SIDE EFFECTS MAY BE IRREVERSIBLE. Most side effects (with the possible exception of thyroid dysfunction) will generally reverse with discontinuation of these medications. It can take up to 8 weeks for the medications to completely leave body tissue. chemo ` Does anyone here have any experience of the effects of having to take chemo on their Hep C? Nikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Nikki I dont personally but Im sure that someone will come along who can answer this! How are you doing?Nikki Cowan <nikkicowan@...> wrote: ` Does anyone here have any experience of the effects of having to take chemo on their Hep C? Nikki Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Liz Im not sure if this is what Nikki meant or if she meant regular chemo for other cancers and how that would affect their hep.. elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: SIDE EFFECTS OF INTERFERON, PEGYLATED INTERFERON, CONSENSUS INTERFERON AND RIBAVIRIN THERAPY General and miscellaneous: Fever, chills, flu-like symptoms, headache, dizziness, hearing loss, insomnia, fatigue, inflammation and pain in the joints, muscle aches, muscle contractions/cramps, numbness and tingling, nerve damage, thinning of hair, weight loss or gain, excessive sweating (especially at night), thyroid dysfunction, parathyroid dysfunction, increased or decreased level of potassium Any existing medical condition can be worsened by these medications. Gastrointestinal: Nausea, vomiting, heartburn, loss of appetite, changes in taste, dry mouth, dry cough, diarrhea, initiation or worsening of inflammatory bowel disease, celiac disease Cardiovascular Disorders: Chest pain, heart attack, congestive heart failure, stroke, low or high blood pressure any of which can lead to death Lung Disorders: Difficulty breathing, asthma, pneumonia, interstitial pneumonitis, bronchiolitis obliterans, lung infection and/or infiltrates, emphysema, pulmonary sarcoidosis (wide spread lesion forming in the lungs) Renal Dysfunction: Decrease in kidney function and failure leading to dialysis dependency Liver Toxicity: Jaundice, elevated liver enzymes, liver pain, decreased liver function Vision Disorders: Changes in vision which could be permanent, including blindness in one or both eyes Brain Disorders: Cerebral atrophy (brain size decreases), aseptic meningitis (inflammation of the lining of the brain without evidence of infection), Bell’s palsy or other facial palsy (temporary partial paralysis involving the eyelid and cheek), decreased short term memory, decreased cognitive abilities. Some of these side effects may not resolve after therapy is completed. SIDE EFFECTS OF INTERFERON, PEGYLATED INTERFERON, CONSENSUS INTERFERON AND RIBAVIRIN THERAPY Autoimmune Disorders: Initiation of or worsening of lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, psoriasis, inflammatory bowel disease, Sjogren’s disease (dry mouth and eyes). These side effects may or may not resolve with completion of therapy. Blood Disorders: Low platelet count (thrombocytopenia), low red (anemia) and white blood cell count (neutropenia and leukopenia), decreased clotting time, idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura (autoimmune disorder which causes destruction of platelets), blood clot formation (thrombosis) in extremities or lungs Skin Reactions: Rashes, lichen planus, dry or itchy skin, lupus erythematous (skin infection), psoriasis (skin disorder causing red patches with white scales), s Syndrome (lesions and redness of the skin produced by congestion/broken capillaries), injection sites reactions or redness, injections site infections, transient erythema (redness), eczema, depilation (hair loss), skin necrosis, vasculitis, initiation or worsening of vitiligo Drug Addiction: Relapse of sobriety or IV drug use dependence, overdose of alcohol or drugs Psychiatric, Psychological, Mood and Behavioral Problems: Depression, anxiety, irritability, lack of concentration, insomnia, mental confusion, hallucinations, mania, bipolar disorders, suicidal thoughts and attempts, homicidal thoughts, psychosis, paranoia, neurosis, disorders of psychomotor activity, vegetative symptoms. Organic personality syndrome characterized by irritability and short temper. An organic effective disorder marked by extreme lability, depression and tearfulness. Delirium marked by clouding of consciousness, agitation, paranoia, and suicide potential. There are known cases of completed suicide and homicide while taking this medication. Women’s Health Issues: Menstrual disorders, inability to have children, spontaneous abortions and birth defects. SOME OF THESE SIDE EFFECTS MAY BE SEVERE ENOUGH TO CAUSE DEATH. SOME OF THESE SIDE EFFECTS MAY BE IRREVERSIBLE. Most side effects (with the possible exception of thyroid dysfunction) will generally reverse with discontinuation of these medications. It can take up to 8 weeks for the medications to completely leave body tissue. chemo ` Does anyone here have any experience of the effects of having to take chemo on their Hep C? Nikki Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Liz Im not sure if this is what Nikki meant or if she meant regular chemo for other cancers and how that would affect their hep.. elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: SIDE EFFECTS OF INTERFERON, PEGYLATED INTERFERON, CONSENSUS INTERFERON AND RIBAVIRIN THERAPY General and miscellaneous: Fever, chills, flu-like symptoms, headache, dizziness, hearing loss, insomnia, fatigue, inflammation and pain in the joints, muscle aches, muscle contractions/cramps, numbness and tingling, nerve damage, thinning of hair, weight loss or gain, excessive sweating (especially at night), thyroid dysfunction, parathyroid dysfunction, increased or decreased level of potassium Any existing medical condition can be worsened by these medications. Gastrointestinal: Nausea, vomiting, heartburn, loss of appetite, changes in taste, dry mouth, dry cough, diarrhea, initiation or worsening of inflammatory bowel disease, celiac disease Cardiovascular Disorders: Chest pain, heart attack, congestive heart failure, stroke, low or high blood pressure any of which can lead to death Lung Disorders: Difficulty breathing, asthma, pneumonia, interstitial pneumonitis, bronchiolitis obliterans, lung infection and/or infiltrates, emphysema, pulmonary sarcoidosis (wide spread lesion forming in the lungs) Renal Dysfunction: Decrease in kidney function and failure leading to dialysis dependency Liver Toxicity: Jaundice, elevated liver enzymes, liver pain, decreased liver function Vision Disorders: Changes in vision which could be permanent, including blindness in one or both eyes Brain Disorders: Cerebral atrophy (brain size decreases), aseptic meningitis (inflammation of the lining of the brain without evidence of infection), Bell’s palsy or other facial palsy (temporary partial paralysis involving the eyelid and cheek), decreased short term memory, decreased cognitive abilities. Some of these side effects may not resolve after therapy is completed. SIDE EFFECTS OF INTERFERON, PEGYLATED INTERFERON, CONSENSUS INTERFERON AND RIBAVIRIN THERAPY Autoimmune Disorders: Initiation of or worsening of lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, psoriasis, inflammatory bowel disease, Sjogren’s disease (dry mouth and eyes). These side effects may or may not resolve with completion of therapy. Blood Disorders: Low platelet count (thrombocytopenia), low red (anemia) and white blood cell count (neutropenia and leukopenia), decreased clotting time, idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura (autoimmune disorder which causes destruction of platelets), blood clot formation (thrombosis) in extremities or lungs Skin Reactions: Rashes, lichen planus, dry or itchy skin, lupus erythematous (skin infection), psoriasis (skin disorder causing red patches with white scales), s Syndrome (lesions and redness of the skin produced by congestion/broken capillaries), injection sites reactions or redness, injections site infections, transient erythema (redness), eczema, depilation (hair loss), skin necrosis, vasculitis, initiation or worsening of vitiligo Drug Addiction: Relapse of sobriety or IV drug use dependence, overdose of alcohol or drugs Psychiatric, Psychological, Mood and Behavioral Problems: Depression, anxiety, irritability, lack of concentration, insomnia, mental confusion, hallucinations, mania, bipolar disorders, suicidal thoughts and attempts, homicidal thoughts, psychosis, paranoia, neurosis, disorders of psychomotor activity, vegetative symptoms. Organic personality syndrome characterized by irritability and short temper. An organic effective disorder marked by extreme lability, depression and tearfulness. Delirium marked by clouding of consciousness, agitation, paranoia, and suicide potential. There are known cases of completed suicide and homicide while taking this medication. Women’s Health Issues: Menstrual disorders, inability to have children, spontaneous abortions and birth defects. SOME OF THESE SIDE EFFECTS MAY BE SEVERE ENOUGH TO CAUSE DEATH. SOME OF THESE SIDE EFFECTS MAY BE IRREVERSIBLE. Most side effects (with the possible exception of thyroid dysfunction) will generally reverse with discontinuation of these medications. It can take up to 8 weeks for the medications to completely leave body tissue. chemo ` Does anyone here have any experience of the effects of having to take chemo on their Hep C? Nikki Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Yes, I am sorry, Liz, I wasn't clear. I am jittery today. My doc trip was not good yesterday. There is every appearance that my breast cancer, gone for 8 years, has returned in my remaining breast, and may actually have gotten to the bone. I will not know for certain until I get the appointment from UTMB at the Breast Clinic. I did not have to do any chemop last time, just the radical mastectomy. But that might be different this time and I am wondering how the chemo might affect my virus idf it is a different type than that given for treatment. Nikki. Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: Liz Im not sure if this is what Nikki meant or if she meant regular chemo for other cancers and how that would affect their hep.. elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: SIDE EFFECTS OF INTERFERON, PEGYLATED INTERFERON, CONSENSUS INTERFERON AND RIBAVIRIN THERAPY General and miscellaneous: Fever, chills, flu-like symptoms, headache, dizziness, hearing loss, insomnia, fatigue, inflammation and pain in the joints, muscle aches, muscle contractions/cramps, numbness and tingling, nerve damage, thinning of hair, weight loss or gain, excessive sweating (especially at night), thyroid dysfunction, parathyroid dysfunction, increased or decreased level of potassium Any existing medical condition can be worsened by these medications. Gastrointestinal: Nausea, vomiting, heartburn, loss of appetite, changes in taste, dry mouth, dry cough, diarrhea, initiation or worsening of inflammatory bowel disease, celiac disease Cardiovascular Disorders: Chest pain, heart attack, congestive heart failure, stroke, low or high blood pressure any of which can lead to death Lung Disorders: Difficulty breathing, asthma, pneumonia, interstitial pneumonitis, bronchiolitis obliterans, lung infection and/or infiltrates, emphysema, pulmonary sarcoidosis (wide spread lesion forming in the lungs) Renal Dysfunction: Decrease in kidney function and failure leading to dialysis dependency Liver Toxicity: Jaundice, elevated liver enzymes, liver pain, decreased liver function Vision Disorders: Changes in vision which could be permanent, including blindness in one or both eyes Brain Disorders: Cerebral atrophy (brain size decreases), aseptic meningitis (inflammation of the lining of the brain without evidence of infection), Bell’s palsy or other facial palsy (temporary partial paralysis involving the eyelid and cheek), decreased short term memory, decreased cognitive abilities. Some of these side effects may not resolve after therapy is completed. SIDE EFFECTS OF INTERFERON, PEGYLATED INTERFERON, CONSENSUS INTERFERON AND RIBAVIRIN THERAPY Autoimmune Disorders: Initiation of or worsening of lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, psoriasis, inflammatory bowel disease, Sjogren’s disease (dry mouth and eyes). These side effects may or may not resolve with completion of therapy. Blood Disorders: Low platelet count (thrombocytopenia), low red (anemia) and white blood cell count (neutropenia and leukopenia), decreased clotting time, idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura (autoimmune disorder which causes destruction of platelets), blood clot formation (thrombosis) in extremities or lungs Skin Reactions: Rashes, lichen planus, dry or itchy skin, lupus erythematous (skin infection), psoriasis (skin disorder causing red patches with white scales), s Syndrome (lesions and redness of the skin produced by congestion/broken capillaries), injection sites reactions or redness, injections site infections, transient erythema (redness), eczema, depilation (hair loss), skin necrosis, vasculitis, initiation or worsening of vitiligo Drug Addiction: Relapse of sobriety or IV drug use dependence, overdose of alcohol or drugs Psychiatric, Psychological, Mood and Behavioral Problems: Depression, anxiety, irritability, lack of concentration, insomnia, mental confusion, hallucinations, mania, bipolar disorders, suicidal thoughts and attempts, homicidal thoughts, psychosis, paranoia, neurosis, disorders of psychomotor activity, vegetative symptoms. Organic personality syndrome characterized by irritability and short temper. An organic effective disorder marked by extreme lability, depression and tearfulness. Delirium marked by clouding of consciousness, agitation, paranoia, and suicide potential. There are known cases of completed suicide and homicide while taking this medication. Women’s Health Issues:< /div> Menstrual disorders, inability to have children, spontaneous abortions and birth defects. SOME OF THESE SIDE EFFECTS MAY BE SEVERE ENOUGH TO CAUSE DEATH. SOME OF THESE SIDE EFFECTS MAY BE IRREVERSIBLE. Most side effects (with the possible exception of thyroid dysfunction) will generally reverse with discontinuation of these medications. It can take up to 8 weeks for the medications to completely leave body tissue. chemo ` Does anyone here have any experience of the effects of having to take chemo on their Hep C? Nikki Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Cyclophosphamide Epirubicin 5-Fluorouracil or 5 FU Methotrexate Mitomycin Mitozantrone (mitoxantrone) Doxorubicin (Adriamycin) Docetaxel (Taxotere) These are some common drugs given for breast cancer. Oh joy. I have downloaded the info, but have not yet read much of it. Has anyone here taken any of these? I wonder how they will affect the virus, if at all, or if the liver irritation will worsen it for me? Blue on a rainy day, Nikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Yes the tx meds for breast ca are much different and you may have to stop tx for the hep c while on the other . Lemme do some research to see what there is info wise chemo ` Does anyone here have any experience of the effects of having to take chemo on their Hep C? Nikki Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 So far I can find no research regarding treatment of both at the same time . I do know that some hep c patients that have liver cancer as well usually treat the cancer first . Cancer takes presidence over hep c . I will keep looking in the mean time here is a link to a site that as all the latest research on breast cancer . ] http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/sections/breast_cancer/ Re: chemo Cyclophosphamide Epirubicin 5-Fluorouracil or 5 FU Methotrexate Mitomycin Mitozantrone (mitoxantrone) Doxorubicin (Adriamycin) Docetaxel (Taxotere) These are some common drugs given for breast cancer. Oh joy. I have downloaded the info, but have not yet read much of it. Has anyone here taken any of these? I wonder how they will affect the virus, if at all, or if the liver irritation will worsen it for me? Blue on a rainy day, Nikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 GEMZAR therapy seems to a newer therapy and has basically the same sides as hep c treatment . And I have gone to every known physicians sites to see if there is any case study done on treating both at the same time and I keep coming up empty .... Consult your hepatologist he can probably help you more right now than I can ..sorry sweetie I tried Re: chemo Cyclophosphamide Epirubicin 5-Fluorouracil or 5 FU Methotrexate Mitomycin Mitozantrone (mitoxantrone) Doxorubicin (Adriamycin) Docetaxel (Taxotere) These are some common drugs given for breast cancer. Oh joy. I have downloaded the info, but have not yet read much of it. Has anyone here taken any of these? I wonder how they will affect the virus, if at all, or if the liver irritation will worsen it for me? Blue on a rainy day, Nikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Ok the only article about hep c and cancer tx was for cancer of the neck , and head and then that treatment made the hep c worsen . But breast cancer tx tamoxifen(sp?) I havent heard of it causing hepatoxicity . RE: chemo Thanks. But I am not taking tx at this time. Just wondering if the chemo is going to hurl me over the edge with the virus. Any info will be appreciated. Regards, Nikki Yes the tx meds for breast ca are much different and you may have to stop tx for the hep c while on the other . Lemme do some research to see what there is info wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Thanks. But I am not taking tx at this time. Just wondering if the chemo is going to hurl me over the edge with the virus. Any info will be appreciated. Regards, Nikki Yes the tx meds for breast ca are much different and you may have to stop tx for the hep c while on the other . Lemme do some research to see what there is info wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Dear Nicki, I had chemo when I had lung cancer back in 1993 and the gal in the bed next to me @ the hospital had adrenal gland cancer. She was given interferon along with the chemo that she was taking and tolerated both well. My experience with chemo (experimental and 5 different drugs-7 day infusion) was difficult. I lost all my hair all over my body, had to be hospitalized because my immune system was shot. blood counts were low so they isolated me. I had to wear a mask to protect myself from other people, was throwing up blood and bile, had severe thrush, lost weight (down to 87lbs), had aditory problems, memory problems, and basically felt like crap. I went thru 3 rounds of this,not liking any of the side effects but the outcome was spectacular. I survived. If you go thru this your oncologist will make sure that you can handle what they dish out. All my best to you. My thoughts and prayers are with you. > SIDE EFFECTS OF INTERFERON, PEGYLATED INTERFERON, CONSENSUS INTERFERON AND RIBAVIRIN THERAPY> > General and miscellaneous:> > Fever, chills, flu-like symptoms, headache, dizziness, hearing loss, insomnia, fatigue, inflammation and pain in the joints, muscle aches, muscle contractions/cramps, numbness and tingling, nerve damage, thinning of hair, weight loss or gain, excessive sweating (especially at night), thyroid dysfunction, parathyroid dysfunction, increased or decreased level of potassium> > Any existing medical condition can be worsened by these medications. > > Gastrointestinal:> > Nausea, vomiting, heartburn, loss of appetite, changes in taste, dry mouth, dry cough, diarrhea, initiation or worsening of inflammatory bowel disease, celiac disease> > Cardiovascular Disorders:> > Chest pain, heart attack, congestive heart failure, stroke, low or high blood pressure any of which can lead to death> > Lung Disorders:> > Difficulty breathing, asthma, pneumonia, interstitial pneumonitis, bronchiolitis obliterans, lung infection and/or infiltrates, emphysema, pulmonary sarcoidosis (wide spread lesion forming in the lungs)> > Renal Dysfunction:> > Decrease in kidney function and failure leading to dialysis dependency> > Liver Toxicity:> > Jaundice, elevated liver enzymes, liver pain, decreased liver function> > Vision Disorders:> > Changes in vision which could be permanent, including blindness in one or both eyes> > Brain Disorders:> > Cerebral atrophy (brain size decreases), aseptic meningitis (inflammation of the lining of the brain without evidence of infection), Bell's palsy or other facial palsy (temporary partial paralysis involving the eyelid and cheek), decreased short term memory, decreased cognitive abilities. Some of these side effects may not resolve after therapy is completed. > SIDE EFFECTS OF INTERFERON, PEGYLATED INTERFERON, CONSENSUS INTERFERON AND RIBAVIRIN THERAPY> > > Autoimmune Disorders:> > Initiation of or worsening of lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, psoriasis, inflammatory bowel disease, Sjogren's disease (dry mouth and eyes). These side effects may or may not resolve with completion of therapy.> > Blood Disorders:> > Low platelet count (thrombocytopenia), low red (anemia) and white blood cell count (neutropenia and leukopenia), decreased clotting time, idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura (autoimmune disorder which causes destruction of platelets), blood clot formation (thrombosis) in extremities or lungs> > Skin Reactions:> > Rashes, lichen planus, dry or itchy skin, lupus erythematous (skin infection), psoriasis (skin disorder causing red patches with white scales), s Syndrome (lesions and redness of the skin produced by congestion/broken capillaries), injection sites reactions or redness, injections site infections, transient erythema (redness), eczema, depilation (hair loss), skin necrosis, vasculitis, initiation or worsening of vitiligo> > Drug Addiction:> > Relapse of sobriety or IV drug use dependence, overdose of alcohol or drugs> > Psychiatric, Psychological, Mood and Behavioral Problems:> > Depression, anxiety, irritability, lack of concentration, insomnia, mental confusion, hallucinations, mania, bipolar disorders, suicidal thoughts and attempts, homicidal thoughts, psychosis, paranoia, neurosis, disorders of psychomotor activity, vegetative symptoms. Organic personality syndrome characterized by irritability and short temper. An organic effective disorder marked by extreme lability, depression and tearfulness. Delirium marked by clouding of consciousness, agitation, paranoia, and suicide potential. There are known cases of completed suicide and homicide while taking this medication. > > Women's Health Issues:< /div> > Menstrual disorders, inability to have children, spontaneous abortions and birth defects.> > > > > SOME OF THESE SIDE EFFECTS MAY BE SEVERE ENOUGH TO CAUSE DEATH.> SOME OF THESE SIDE EFFECTS MAY BE IRREVERSIBLE.> > Most side effects (with the possible exception of thyroid dysfunction) will generally reverse with discontinuation of these medications. It can take up to 8 weeks for the medications to completely leave body tissue.> > chemo> > > ` Does anyone here have any experience of the effects of having to take chemo on their Hep C?> > Nikki> > > > > > > > > > > > Jackie> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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