Re: Have breast cancer but need oral surgery

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janeinromania writes:

> It would be a total of 10 teeth removed.

I hope he's not doing this all at once..that's way too

traumatic...also...this should be done by a biological dentist.

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My biological dentist used to offer a choice of either a natural pain

reliever or the usual pharmaceutical pain reliever. I'd forgotten what

the natural pain reliever was. Ask your biodentist early.

janeinromania wrote:

>

> Hi everyone,

> My first time writing. I am needing advice as what to do

> regarding pain after removal of remaining top teeth.

> Some have mercury fillings, one is an old root canal, (just the

> root remains, tooth is gone). It would be a total of 10 teeth removed.

> My concern is that after the removal, and not having taken any pain

> medication since I discovered my breast cancer over 2 years ago.

> Any suggestions as to natural pain relievers for the healing

> process. I am concerned that anything the dentist might prescribe

> would not help my on-going battle with the breast cancer.

> Thanks so much.

> Jane

>

>

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It appears that you have too much dental work to avoid some kind of pain

relief. I am a believer in the thought that sometimes pain is worse than the

pain killer. Yes it is unnatural, but how natural is it to have 10 teeth

removed?

Give some thought to the enervation caused by so much pain/surgery that you will

so assault your body your immune system will not be functioning to any degree

while it tries to survive from the extensive dental work.

I suppose the nsaids, such as Ibuprofen might be a problem with bleeding,

however their anti-inflammatory response could be beneficial all the way around.

This is an issue of 'benefit to risk' comparison.

Hopefully one of our list 'experts' will come up with an idea that will be

helpful while doing no harm.

Joe C.

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arlynsg

but the toxins that sit in the wisdom

sites where teeth were extracted.

What can one do about this?

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cathykush writes:

HYPERICUM for nerve pain; shooting pain

I can attest to this working well. Get the tincture also and place it onto

the gums and take the pellets orally.

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Hi Jane -

If possible, please make sure when they remove the teeth they remove

the ligaments that currently attach/hold the teeth to the bone. If

this is not done a most horrible infection can occur. I speak from

experience with this. Some dentists will say it's not necessary but

that's only because they were not trained to take the few extra

minutes it takes to clean down to good healthy bone. Even

veterinarians know this is necessary.

When I lost 12 teeth some years ago I too wanted to forego pain meds.

My advice would be to get the prescription filled and have it at home

just in case you need it - better to be safe. Someone very wise told

me I wasn't going to get any rewards to trying to tough out the pain.

I'm glad I got the meds I did - my lower jaw produced unbearable nerve

pain. If there's alot of pain you don't want to be taxing your adrenal

glands, which is what will jeopardize the immune system/cancer more

than pain meds for the short-term. You want to heal as quickly and

painlessly as possible.

" Typically " the maxilla (upper jaw) pain doesn't tend to be as bad as

the lower jaw (unless it involves the sinus areas deeply) and the

upper areas don't tend to dry socket as much either - this has to do

with the way the blood flows to the jaws. So you may have some luck

there. My recommendation is to follow what they tell you to do - they

will say things like if you smoke, absolutely do not until the area

heals, don't purse the lips or suck through straws for the first few

days, etc. Salt water is always a good rinse after the first couple of

days and has pain qualities as well. This MAY be all you need to fend

off pain. Things like L-theanine will help keep the anxiety down -

sometimes anxiety produces more pain. There's a very good product

called Body Mend homeopathic drops from BioEnergetics you can order

online here. You do drops every 10 minutes the entire first day, then

drops every 30 minutes the next day. I love these:

http://homeopathy-homeopathics-remedies.naturalhealthdoc.net/BioEnergetics/BioE-\

Body-Mend.htm.

When I've had areas cleaned out of my jaws this is all I've had to

use. Look to homeopathics to help with the pain too. Sometimes

bromelain helps with inflammation in the area.

Not to give false hope, but it's possible you will heal your breast

cancer more quickly after these teeth are gone. The very real link

between oral pathology and breast cancer is coming to the forefront.

They are doing amazing things with doing thermograpy to the head/face

as well as the breasts and are seeing links between the two. Not just

root canals and filled teeth but the toxins that sit in the wisdom

sites where teeth were extracted.

Please feel to write me offline if you want the BioMend drops site or

want more alternative suggestions - I went through my own dental

experience and trying to heal cancer as well.

Hope this helps some!

cathy

>

> Hi everyone,

> My first time writing. I am needing advice as what to do

> regarding pain after removal of remaining top teeth.

> Some have mercury fillings, one is an old root canal, (just the

> root remains, tooth is gone). It would be a total of 10 teeth removed.

> My concern is that after the removal, and not having taken any pain

> medication since I discovered my breast cancer over 2 years ago.

> Any suggestions as to natural pain relievers for the healing

> process. I am concerned that anything the dentist might prescribe

> would not help my on-going battle with the breast cancer.

> Thanks so much.

> Jane

>

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On Sun, 11 May 2008 02:03:30 -0000, " fishsalmon2001 "

<cathykush@...> said:

> Not to give false hope, but it's possible you will heal your breast

> cancer more quickly after these teeth are gone. The very real link

> between oral pathology and breast cancer is coming to the forefront.

> They are doing amazing things with doing thermograpy to the head/face

> as well as the breasts and are seeing links between the two. Not just

> root canals and filled teeth but the toxins that sit in the wisdom

> sites where teeth were extracted.

Hi ,

Interesting news you wrote about above. As I've mentioned, I've never

had any oral work done except having my Wisdom Teeth extracted. And it

was a miserable experience. I developed two dry sockets on the top -

and that was the most painful experience. The only thing that would

dull the pain was having the surgeon pack the sockets with strips of

paper soaked in clove oil.

ar

--

Arlyn Grant

arlynsg@...

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Hi Jane -

More info for you on homeopathic single remedies:

AFTER SURGERY & DENTIST

REMEDIES AFTER DENTAL PROCEDURE

HYPERICUM for nerve pain; shooting pain

CALENDULA after tooth extraction & for sore gums. Also use 5 drops

CALENDULA tincture diluted in a glass of water as a mouth wash, to

heal the inside of the mouth

ARNICA bruising, swelling and pain after tooth extraction or fillings.

Also for bleeding gums after treatment

PHOSPHOROUS after anaesthetic and where there is excessive bleeding

after extraction

MERC SOL mouth ulcers. Flu or cold symptoms after amalgam fillings

Also Tea Tree Oil drops in water as a mouth rinse, clove oil to help

with pain in the areas, as well as feverfew (herb) or white willow

bark (but I'd probably do advil or something instead of this!). Try

and do something for liver support as well to get the toxins out of

the body faster - even teas are good, dandelion root and milk thistle

come to mind first.

cathy

[Guest guest]

Jane - I forgot to mention of couple of things - stop any Vit. C

a couple of days before the dental surgery as it may prevent the

numbing agents from working as they should. Also, you may have to stop

any blood thinning supplements as well - you want the entire area to

clot nicely post-surgery - this won't happen if the blood is super

thin. If you take prescription blood thinners ask your dentist about

stopping them prior to surgery. Lots of vegetable juicing will help

keep your strength up as you adjust to the dentures.

cathy