Re: Swimming pools and Chlorine - A big No! No! ?????

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/7/08 12:28:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

comdyne@... writes:

> Use an ozonator. Ozone

> kills everything and leaves no deadly chemical residue. Ozone is not

> air pollution, its a high atomic level of oxygen.

>

people I know using just ozone had infectious problems..you have to add

something to the mix.

[Guest guest]

Chlorine and bromine (salts) are halogens and will deactivate iodine

used by the thyroid to make thyroxine, a vital hormone. Also chlorine

exacerbates the development of arteriosclerosis. Use an ozonator. Ozone

kills everything and leaves no deadly chemical residue. Ozone is not

air pollution, its a high atomic level of oxygen.

>

> I have heard that swimming in a chlorinated swimming pool is a NO-NO

> for cancer fighters! Does anyone know of any healthy way to have a

> swimming pool at home? I looked into salt water but salt is converted

> to chlorine also. ???

>

> Debbie

> m/o Alyssa ~ 9 yrs. old ~ dx. medullo 5/05

> Alyssa's websites:

> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/alyssadennewitz

> http://thedennewitzs.com

>

[Guest guest]

You can have a fresh water pool. I believe it takes extra care, but you

can definitely have one.

ar

On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:23:03 -0000, " Debbie " <dld313@...> said:

> I have heard that swimming in a chlorinated swimming pool is a NO-NO

> for cancer fighters! Does anyone know of any healthy way to have a

> swimming pool at home? I looked into salt water but salt is converted

> to chlorine also. ???

>

> Debbie

> m/o Alyssa ~ 9 yrs. old ~ dx. medullo 5/05

> Alyssa's websites:

> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/alyssadennewitz

> http://thedennewitzs.com

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

There are a number of ways to have a chlorine-free pool.

My neighbor has one and we now use the same 'gadget' in our housing development

fountain to avoid chlorine splashing on plantings.

Just type in 'Chlorine Free swimming Pool' and I suspect something informative

will come up. I forgot the name of the one gadget and I believe it costs about

$200 and uses Solar Energy.

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

Using salt vs chlorine makes so much sense.This is what should be used

in all public pools.

Best regards

Guy

>

> There are a number of ways to have a chlorine-free pool.

>

> My neighbor has one and we now use the same 'gadget' in our housing

development fountain to avoid chlorine splashing on plantings.

>

> Just type in 'Chlorine Free swimming Pool' and I suspect something

informative will come up. I forgot the name of the one gadget and I

believe it costs about $200 and uses Solar Energy.

>

> Joe C.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Water and pools in Europe are sanitized with ozone. Salt is not good

as the salt used for this purpose is bromine, a halogen. VERY BAD!

" summitflyer2003 " wrote:

> Using salt vs chlorine makes so much sense.This is what should be

used in all public pools. Best regards, Guy

In , " JCastron " <jcastron1@> wrote:

> >

> > There are a number of ways to have a chlorine-free pool.

> > My neighbor has one and we now use the same 'gadget' in our

housing development fountain to avoid chlorine splashing on plantings.

> > Just type in 'Chlorine Free swimming Pool' and I suspect something

> informative will come up. I forgot the name of the one gadget and

I believe it costs about $200 and uses Solar Energy.

>Joe C.

[Guest guest]

Home spas and hot tubs have some non-chlorine choices. There is a

system that uses ozone produced by a UV light to kill germs and also a

water purifier with silver and copper electrodes that the water passes

over. Europeans use ozone in swimming pools and when the Olympics were

here they insisted on non-chlorine treatment for the pool but after the

Olympics were over they ripped it out. It's the chemical companies and

their hold on the industry with having to add chemicals constantly to

maintain pools.

On Jun 7, 2008, at 11:06 AM, summitflyer2003 wrote:

> Using salt vs chlorine makes so much sense.This is what should be used

> in all public pools.

> Best regards

> Guy

[Guest guest]

A well-engineered ozone treatment system can replace the need for any

chemicals although there are some situations were some chemicals are

required to assist the ozone such as large numbers of swimmers hitting

the pool at the same time who didn't shower first, etc. Sodium chlorite

can be substituted for chlorine and will produce identical serilization

characteristics without the chemical toxicity found in chlorine. It is

expensive however. Brenntag Chemical in the U.S. is a good supplier of

the product which comes from China. 110 lbs. is about $200 USD FOB

Notice I said Sodium Chlorite, not Sodium Chloride...

szukipoo@... wrote:

> comdyne writes:

> Use an ozonator. Ozone kills everything and leaves no deadly chemical residue.

Ozone is not air pollution, its a high atomic level of oxygen.

people I know using just ozone had infectious problems..you have to

add something to the mix.

[Guest guest]

Research BACQUIL. I got hold of a brochure and it seems to be better than

chlorine. I don't use it yet.

[Guest guest]

I was not aware of this comdyne2002,I thought salt was a much better

alternative.So bromine is toxic ???

I do agree with ozone though.Would you not need a very big ozone

generator for a swimming pool?

I use ozone in a sawna.

Best regards

Guy

> > >

> > > There are a number of ways to have a chlorine-free pool.

> > > My neighbor has one and we now use the same 'gadget' in our

> housing development fountain to avoid chlorine splashing on plantings.

> > > Just type in 'Chlorine Free swimming Pool' and I suspect something

> > informative will come up. I forgot the name of the one gadget and

> I believe it costs about $200 and uses Solar Energy.

> >Joe C.

>

[Guest guest]

Bromine is extremely toxic. There are 5 halogens that exist on the

periodic table of the elements. They are as follows based upon atomic

weight. The lighter the atomic weight elements will pull energy from

the heavier ones.

Fluorine.................18.99

Chlorine.................35.45

Bromine..................79.90

Iodine...................126.70

Astatine.................210.00 (Radon) Isotope of Bismuth 209.00

At:, isn't relevant as it is rare in the environment.

These free radical donators/scavengers, depending upon one's

perception, form covalent bonds with free radicals which is why they

are used for purification and sanitizing. The problem with using them

is the fact that they disrupt the utilization of iodine in the

critical glands of the body. The thyroid, breasts and uteri are

negatively effected and the lack thereof is directly responsible for

the formation of fibroid tumors which can turn malignant. Also excess

thyrotropic hormone that fails to convert into thyroxine in the

thyroid will circulate in the tissues and exacerbate cellular growth

which, in the case of cancers, is disastrous. Researchers are on the

wrong track when they look for answers in the genetic codes because

the influence that causes cellular malfunction is environmental and

largely hormonal. It is the terrain that effects the behavior of the

cells, not the DNA/RNA which only follows external influences. If you

plant a coconut in Toronto, a tree will not grow. Its the soil

conditions that support diseases, it isn't the seed.

" summitflyer2003 " <bluesky@...> wrote:

> I was not aware of this comdyne2002,I thought salt was a much better

> alternative.So bromine is toxic ???

> I do agree with ozone though.Would you not need a very big ozone

> generator for a swimming pool? I use ozone in a sawna.

> Best regards, Guy

>

Water and pools in Europe are sanitized with ozone. Salt is not good as the salt

used for this purpose is bromine, a halogen. VERY BAD!

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the information.I was under the impression that the salt

used in swimming pools was basic salt ,sodium chloride.

Ozone is definitely the best option.

Good analogy using the tree/seed/coconut in Toronto.

best regards

Guy

>

> Bromine is extremely toxic. There are 5 halogens that exist on the

> periodic table of the elements. They are as follows based upon atomic

> weight. The lighter the atomic weight elements will pull energy from

> the heavier ones.

>

> Fluorine.................18.99

> Chlorine.................35.45

> Bromine..................79.90

> Iodine...................126.70

> Astatine.................210.00 (Radon) Isotope of Bismuth 209.00

> At:, isn't relevant as it is rare in the environment.

>

> These free radical donators/scavengers, depending upon one's

> perception, form covalent bonds with free radicals which is why they

> are used for purification and sanitizing. The problem with using them

> is the fact that they disrupt the utilization of iodine in the

> critical glands of the body. The thyroid, breasts and uteri are

> negatively effected and the lack thereof is directly responsible for

> the formation of fibroid tumors which can turn malignant. Also excess

> thyrotropic hormone that fails to convert into thyroxine in the

> thyroid will circulate in the tissues and exacerbate cellular growth

> which, in the case of cancers, is disastrous. Researchers are on the

> wrong track when they look for answers in the genetic codes because

> the influence that causes cellular malfunction is environmental and

> largely hormonal. It is the terrain that effects the behavior of the

> cells, not the DNA/RNA which only follows external influences. If you

> plant a coconut in Toronto, a tree will not grow. Its the soil

> conditions that support diseases, it isn't the seed.