Re: Breast Cancer Metastasized to the Lungs - Need Help

[Guest guest]

A personal story here:

I saw an uncle go from terminal lung cancer to remission taking

Vitamin O, Beta Glucan 1,3 - 1,6, 6 425 mg caps a day, and

Flor Essence Essiac Tea.

Please keep in mind that breast cancer is different, hormonal in

nature, or some women have the " breast cancer gene. "

I've seen a lot on MMS lately. The sodium chlorite molecule is,

I think, about 7 times stronger than vit. O, and when activated with

citric acid 10%, hundreds of times stronger.

Doing these things certainly shouldn't hurt and may help.

jp

Elliot wrote:

>I received a phone call today from a woman past middle-age who was

> diagnosed with breast cancer in 2002 or 2004, who had a lumpectomy

> and perhaps chemotherapy or radiation,(not sure on those), and who

> was told last week that the cancer has metastisized to her lungs.

>...She started taking paw paw extract a week ago, but is not doing much else as

yet....I would appreciate any and all suggestions anyone can give me.

[Guest guest]

Elliot, what about the http://wwwlow dose naltrexone.org/ site? tby

" breathedeepnow " wrote:

> I received a phone call today from a woman past middle-age who was

> diagnosed with breast cancer in 2002 or 2004, who had a lumpectomy

> and perhaps chemotherapy or radiation,(not sure on those), and who

> was told last week that the cancer has metastisized to her lungs.

....I would appreciate any and all suggestions anyone can give me.

[Guest guest]

Elliot, It's - http://www.low dose naltrexone.org/ I left the dot out

after www accidentally in the last post. tby

[Guest guest]

Hello Elliot,

I have lung metastases and have stopped them with

LDN. You can read all the links about cancer and LDN

not at the Low dose naltrexone site but at the

LDN_4_cancer/links

This is specific for LDN and cancer.

The other site TYB sent you is the generic chat

forum for LDN and mainly talks about MS with no

information or links.

You can contact me at anytime about this as I know

first hand. Also LDN takes time to effect cancer so

the sooner the better as metastases are usually fast

growing.

Dee

http://www.ldn4cancer.com/

[Guest guest]

Elliot,

First I have to say that my hat is off to you.I notice many of your postings and

thank you for all your hard work and tons of research and keeping up to date as

much as one can be thank you .and everyone else thanks you know who you are .

Suggestions :Yes a good naturoapth

Beck Protocol ,eat clean live cell raw purest food possible (and believe in

it), drink lots of clean distilled freshly ozoned water,exercise, read Alkalize

or die ,Believe you can beat and over come your temporary illness,think believe

it.Tell her to get a live blood analysis so she can see and understand a staring

point,and see progression,just a few thoughts, all the best .to all

joe

From: breathedeepnow

I received a phone call today from a woman past middle-age who was

diagnosed with breast cancer in 2002 or 2004, who had a lumpectomy

and perhaps chemotherapy or radiation,(not sure on those), and who

was told last week that the cancer has metastisized to her lungs.

I would appreciate any and all suggestions anyone can give me.

Elliot

[Guest guest]

What is vitamin O?

Jhprice wrote:

A personal story here:

I saw an uncle go from terminal lung cancer to remission taking

Vitamin O, Beta Glucan 1,3 - 1,6, 6 425 mg caps a day, and

Flor Essence Essiac Tea.....

[Guest guest]

Hi Elliot.

My mom has been diagnozed with breast cancer on 1992. Then she had

metastisized to her pleura in 2000. Then metastisized to her lungs on 2003 and

metastisized to the liver a year ago.

Since december of the last year she has been on chemotherapy (gemzar plus

carboplatine) but not too much success until start using AVASTIN.

I have read bad and good things about that medicine. Now a days my mom has

stopped chemo and stays with the avastin because her blood levels always go

down.

I try to make her juicies with black grapes (included the seeds). Lots of

liquids.

But there is something thats helps a lot to my mom. When she started the chemo

she starts with nauseas, headaches, etc. The point is that she hates drinking

water. She only drinks COKE!!!!!

So, the doctor tell me that everytime she recieves chemo she needs to receive

the next day a dosis of hidratation (Sodium chloride, Dexamethasone, something

for the nauseas, metax and Potassium chloride).

With that she really felts better.

The problem now a days is that she started to make fever after the avastin. We

thought it was a infection through the cateter porth but the blood exam from the

cateter is negative.

Conclusion: my mom has recieved 4 times chemo. She is a fighter. I know its

difficult but meanwhile we see her with hope we will do anything as possible.

If hope dissapears I promise I will make her life until God decides to take

her the most pleasant I could.

Sorry for my bad english. Hope you understand.

Hugs,

from Peru

breathedeepnow <aug20@...> wrote:

I received a phone call today from a woman past middle-age who was

diagnosed with breast cancer in 2002 or 2004, who had a lumpectomy

and perhaps chemotherapy or radiation,(not sure on those), and who

was told last week that the cancer has metastisized to her lungs.

The oncologist wants her to start chemotherapy " in about 2 weeks, "

but I am thinking he is just going through the motions. The woman

seemed to think his body language and the very little he said to her

signifies he holds out little hope for her.

She started taking paw paw extract a week ago, but is not doing much

else as yet.

I have suggested to her that she get with a naturopath in her area as

soon as possible so as to get on a program of what to do from when

she gets up in the morning till she goes to bed at night. Not a

horribly strict, confining " regimen, " but a regular, properly

understood program of healing that she can follow so as to feel in

control and to give her peace of mind that she is doing the things

she needs to do to get better.

I personally do not think she should do the chemotherapy. I think it

will only worsen her quality of life and that it could kill her.

I would appreciate any and all suggestions anyone can give me.

I am not sure why it did not occur to me to suggest the Budwig

Protocol to her. I should have. I have her phone number. She is NOT

on the internet, so would not have an easy time communicating with

the flaxseedoil2 group.

Thanks for any help!

Elliot

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[Guest guest]

The problem with breast cancer is that it isn't like many of the other

cancers as it generally has a hormonal component. It would be good to

know if the woman is positive for the estrogen or progesterone

receptors. But perhaps once the cancer has metastasized, that doesn't

matter any more? Anyway, depending on her age, it may be good to work

on hormone balancing. But again, that takes time.

Definitely, find a qualified ND and look at a cleansing diet - if she is

strong enough. But all treatments would depend on if they work with the

hormone receptor status of the woman's cancer.

ar

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

If you are open to another treatment option, may I suggest Low Dose Naltrexone

(LDN). To learn more, visit

http://tinyurl.com/2p57xv

With best wishes,

Dudley Delany

From: Neyra

My mom has been diagnozed with breast cancer on 1992. Then she had metastisized

to her pleura in 2000. Then metastisized to her lungs on 2003 and metastisized

to the liver a year ago.

Since december of the last year she has been on chemotherapy (gemzar plus

carboplatine) but not too much success until start using AVASTIN. I have read

bad and good things about that medicine. Now a days my mom has stopped chemo and

stays with the avastin because her blood levels always go down.

I try to make her juicies with black grapes (included the seeds). Lots of

liquids.

But there is something thats helps a lot to my mom. When she started the

chemo she starts with nauseas, headaches, etc. The point is that she hates

drinking water. She only drinks COKE!!!!!

So, the doctor tell me that everytime she recieves chemo she needs to receive

the next day a dosis of hidratation (Sodium chloride, Dexamethasone, something

for the nauseas, metax and Potassium chloride).

With that she really felts better.

The problem now a days is that she started to make fever after the avastin. We

thought it was a infection through the cateter porth but the blood exam from the

cateter is negative.

Conclusion: my mom has recieved 4 times chemo. She is a fighter. I know its

difficult but meanwhile we see her with hope we will do anything as possible.

If hope dissapears I promise I will make her life until God decides to take

her the most pleasant I could.

Sorry for my bad english. Hope you understand.

Hugs, from Peru

[Guest guest]

Dear Arlyn: Doctors make an evaluation to the tumor of my mom that stays in the

hospital until now. She has not the HERB2 component? That´s why she is using

AVASTIN instead of HERCEPTIN.

Is that the exam you´re refering?

Hugs,

Patty

Arlyn Grant wrote:

The problem with breast cancer is that it isn't like many of the other

cancers as it generally has a hormonal component. It would be good to

know if the woman is positive for the estrogen or progesterone

receptors. But perhaps once the cancer has metastasized, that doesn't

matter any more? Anyway, depending on her age, it may be good to work

on hormone balancing. But again, that takes time.

Definitely, find a qualified ND and look at a cleansing diet - if she is

strong enough. But all treatments would depend on if they work with the

hormone receptor status of the woman's cancer.

[Guest guest]

Thank you Dudley. I´m reading right now about LDN to discuss it with my mom´s

doctors.

Thanks a lot.

God bless you.

Patty

Dudley Delany wrote:

Hi ,

If you are open to another treatment option, may I suggest Low Dose Naltrexone

(LDN). To learn more, visit

http://tinyurl.com/2p57xv

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone and thanks for all the help you give us in this group. I´ve learned

a lot here.

I´m reading about LDN and sounds really interesting but I can´t get if its a

medicine? where do I can get it? Can someone help me please?

Hugs,

Patty

Dudley Delany wrote:

Hi ,

If you are open to another treatment option, may I suggest Low Dose Naltrexone

(LDN). To learn more, visit

http://tinyurl.com/2p57xv

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty,

This site has will tell you how to obtain LDN:

http://tinyurl.com/2dfbvd

Best regards,

Dudley Delany

[Guest guest]

I dont know your location but I have gotten LDN prescribed to me by Dr.

Ayre in Burr Ridge, Illinois. His number is 1- 630- 321-9013. He did require an

office visit but he was very reasonable (Blue Cross covered it). He also does

IPT and some other therapies.

from: Neyra

Hi everyone and thanks for all the help you give us in this group. I´ve learned

a lot here.

I´m reading about LDN and sounds really interesting but I can´t get if its a

medicine? where do I can get it? Can someone help me please?

Hugs,

Patty

[Guest guest]

Hello Patty,

Her2 (as it is called in the States) is just one of the items tested.

There should also be an ER and a PR. For instance, my cancer was ER +

but PR - . HER2 not tested because I did not have a tumor.

ar

" Neyra " said:

Dear Arlyn: Doctors make an evaluation to the tumor of my mom that stays in the

hospital until now. She has not the HERB2 component? That´s why she is using

AVASTIN instead of HERCEPTIN.

Is that the exam you´re refering? Hugs, Patty