New guy

[Guest guest]

What is the brand name of that product. There are so many products out there that it is difficult to know what you have.

Re: Re: New guy

Hi all

I am also new and planning to start taking iodine. product I have has potassium iodide only.It has 25 mg of potassium iodide (19 mg iodide) per drop. I hope that is a suitable product to use.I have severe adrenal fatigue and on adrenal support.Also have goiter and nodules.How should I start it? I am thinking 1 drop might be too much for a start. Planning to prepare a solution of 1 drop of it in water and taking one forth of it as a start. Would you think that is okay for starting? I am also recently diagnosed with kidney insufficiency problems. Would iodine treatment effect it in any way?

Best wishes to all

nil

[Guest guest]

You might want to stop this...it may be part of the problem.

Marla

I have used 1 droper

> > full

> >> of Liquid Kelp for 20 years

> >>

[Guest guest]

Like you before found out more information wasted my money

on detoxified iodine 6 bottles worth and the stuff has only 200 mcg

of iodine. At least your has 19 mgs iodide maybe you can mix it

with Lugol's. Take one drop of HHP and the rest Lugol's.

From: Nil

Hi

I ordered this through web mistakenly thinking that it contained both iodine and iodide forms. After it arrived me I noticed that it contained potassium iodide only. It is Iodine Solution by Hollywood Health Products.I hope it is okay to use it.

1 drop containes 19 mg iodide from potassium iodide.

thanks and best wishes.

nil

[Guest guest]

would it be a mistake if i use it alone?

bw

nil

Re: Re: New guy

Like you before found out more information wasted my money

on detoxified iodine 6 bottles worth and the stuff has only 200 mcg

of iodine. At least your has 19 mgs iodide maybe you can mix it

with Lugol's. Take one drop of HHP and the rest Lugol's.

From: Nil

Hi

I ordered this through web mistakenly thinking that it contained both iodine and iodide forms. After it arrived me I noticed that it contained potassium iodide only. It is Iodine Solution by Hollywood Health Products.I hope it is okay to use it.

1 drop containes 19 mg iodide from potassium iodide.

thanks and best wishes.

nil

[Guest guest]

Some people are not allowed to drive if they have an ICD, but I'm not one of them. Generally your doctor advises on the likelihood of a zap and whether you should be driving. If you are zapped while driving you are probably likely to lose control of the car.

Brenta

-------------- Original message -------------- From: "jameypicketts" <jameypicketts@...>

I GET MY ICD OCT 27 08 MY HEART IS AT 26% HE TOLD ME THAT I NEED IT JUST IN CASE. WHEN YOU GET ZAPPED AND YOU ARE DRIVING A CAR HOW DO YOU HANDLE IT AM I GOING TO HIT SOMETHING?LET ME KNOW THANK YOU

[Guest guest]

The rules of driving with an ICD after implant and after therapy differ

from state to state as well. It is best to talk to your Doc regarding

your condition and what he recommends.

Good luck to you -- we will be thinking about our Oct 27th Jameypicketts!!!

~guin

bdavis66@... wrote:

>

> Some people are not allowed to drive if they have an ICD, but I'm not

> one of them. Generally your doctor advises on the likelihood of a zap

> and whether you should be driving. If you are zapped while driving you

> are probably likely to lose control of the car.

> Brenta

>

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: " jameypicketts " <jameypicketts@...>

>

> I GET MY ICD OCT 27 08 MY HEART IS AT 26% HE TOLD ME THAT I NEED IT

> JUST IN CASE. WHEN YOU GET ZAPPED AND YOU ARE DRIVING A CAR HOW DO

> YOU

> HANDLE IT AM I GOING TO HIT SOMETHING?

> LET ME KNOW THANK YOU

>

>

[Guest guest]

I CANT STOP DRIVING THAT WOULD BE LIKE DIEING FOR ME. I JUST GOT A 91 CAMARO OH WELL.

From: jameypicketts <jameypicketts@...>Subject: NEW GUY Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 10:40 AM

I GET MY ICD OCT 27 08 MY HEART IS AT 26% HE TOLD ME THAT I NEED IT JUST IN CASE. WHEN YOU GET ZAPPED AND YOU ARE DRIVING A CAR HOW DO YOU HANDLE IT AM I GOING TO HIT SOMETHING?LET ME KNOW THANK YOU

[Guest guest]

Again -it really depends on you, your Doc and your State. I liver in CA

and had never passed out -- when my ICD was implanted I was driving on

the third day after. I was 41 years old and otherwise a healthy Mom.

So driving may or not be an issue for you...

Hang in there - you'll do fine -- just keep asking questions.

~guin

william pickett wrote:

>

> I CANT STOP DRIVING THAT WOULD BE LIKE DIEING FOR ME. I JUST GOT A 91

> CAMARO OH WELL.

>

>

>

> From: jameypicketts <jameypicketts@...>

> Subject: NEW GUY

>

> Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 10:40 AM

>

> I GET MY ICD OCT 27 08 MY HEART IS AT 26% HE TOLD ME THAT I NEED IT

> JUST IN CASE. WHEN YOU GET ZAPPED AND YOU ARE DRIVING A CAR HOW DO

> YOU

> HANDLE IT AM I GOING TO HIT SOMETHING?

> LET ME KNOW THANK YOU

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

On Oct 7, 2008, at 8:15 AM, william pickett wrote:

> I CANT STOP DRIVING THAT WOULD BE LIKE DIEING FOR ME.

Yeah, well, it might BE dying if you're not careful. When I got my

ICD I was banned from driving for six months just to see how things

would settle out. I've been driving since with no incident, knock wood.

Welcome to the Zappers, this list is my lifeline, and it can be yours

too.

Lynn S.

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[Guest guest]

Hi, I notice that you have posted under different names, are you Jamey

or ?

Welcome to our Zaplist family.

I am a bit lazy this morning so am going to paste into this message

the post I wrote to someone else a few years back which chronicles my

own experience regarding driving. I've had my license back now for

just over a year and love having it again, was a long time and very

depressing waiting it out.

here's that email I wrote

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of thenumberoneleming

Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:50 PM

Subject: Re: Driving

Hi xxx, I guess by now you know that every one of us face this issue

of not being able to drive for X period of time. Such time differs

from state to state, province to province, country to country, and

above all our family doctors, our cardiologists and EPs themselves

have their rules about this. Where I live, in the province of British

Columbia in Canada, in my case it didn't matter whether or not I still

had my driver's license or whether or not the gov't knew about my

condition, my insurance coverage is void from the time the doctors say

no and it's put on the medical record. It won't be valid again until

the docs (not just your family doctor either) have written into your

record that it is safe for you to drive again.

From time to time we hear from someone that they can NEVER drive

again! imagine that one.

Having said that, I have not been allowed to drive for four years now,

and just a couple of weeks ago, my cardio and doctor has lifted that

" ban " , but want me to take some refresher driving with a retired

instructer because I haven't been behind the wheel in 4 years. The

length of time for me was that I had a stroke in 2003, and after that

and a gazillion tests later, my ICD " Linus " was implanted in Feb of

2005, and I have never had a ZAP,(touch wood) nor passed out

(whew!)during all that time.

So perhaps it would help you cope if you think about why YOU are being

told not to drive? - The reason may beyond just the implant itself. It

took me these 4 years to get accustomed to not driving, as an

executive with the federal goverment, I travelled the country by air,

and car, and never once thought anything of it. Suddenly Losing

control over the life I knew included that vehicle issue. and yep,

it's the pits. In my situation, I had kept my car licensed ready to

go right up to last fall, with that remote hope in my heart that I'd

somehow get " better enough " and then last fall decided to give in to

what looked like the inevitable, so I sold my beloved car to my niece.

so I now don't have a car, and yep, now I'm allowed to drive. huh.

re-thinking my financials now to see if I can afford another car.

haha. Pd bills with the money I got last fall so it's gone gone gone.

Keep your head up, xxx, find your alternatives, do what your docs

say, and " BETTER " will come, in its own time. We are all here, and you

better believe, I have vented here more than once! lol Just writing

this email helps. You know something, in all this time, I have NEVER

met anyone in person who has an ICD. This wite is the only place where

I have 'friends' who understand. I thank God every day in my prayers

for Zapper and Duff and all the rest of you.

I wish you the best.

Lynda and Linus, and Sweetie the Cat.

ps xxx, I sympathize with your husband who seems to be hearing one

thing from the doc and finding out another from the gov't.. That is

the one " rule " that I think is federal law here too in Canada too, but

I don't know that for a fact. Seems to me that there was a fellow from

the Maritimes who wrote in some time ago that his commercial license

had been taken for life too.

I guess we have to keep saying to ouselves, it's really NOT THE ICD

that is causing these changes, it is the bald fact that we all have a

sickness of some kind in our heart that we need to make certain

changes in our lives, matters not that we didn't know sometimes

beforehand that we were even sick, the fact remains that we now are.

and the ICD is there to help us, as are the meds we take by the

handful every day.

God bless.

Postscript Oct 7th/08: once I got my license back last summer, I

searched and found an absolutely wonderful 1989 Cadillac Seville, and

feel very luxurious driving my caddie , old as she is!! haha

>

> I GET MY ICD OCT 27 08 MY HEART IS AT 26% HE TOLD ME THAT I NEED IT

> JUST IN CASE. WHEN YOU GET ZAPPED AND YOU ARE DRIVING A CAR HOW DO YOU

> HANDLE IT AM I GOING TO HIT SOMETHING?

> LET ME KNOW THANK YOU

>

[Guest guest]

MY NAME NICK NAME IS JAMEY. IM THE NEW GUY

[Guest guest]

Hi

been struggling with tingling in face & shoulders for 7 months now ,

had a few good days but trying to find whats causing the tingles &

emotions , have had MRI scan on head and all other test all clear ...

feel real run down & anxious tried stopping wheat , pots, etc , but no

joy .. i know it does take along time , to clear fron your system . all

this came about when i stopped my bad eating habits , sugars sweets ,

cakes , buiscuits , fizzy pop etc ...... i must say though when i felt

good i have never felt so good before so ill hang on in there , any

other advice would be great

thanks to all Lee

>

> Hey Bee/guys,

> I thought I had oral thrush I have had other symptoms of candida so I

decided to follow through with Bee's plan, (after doing Bee's candida

check list). Its been 2 days and last night I was smashed. I woke up

sweating, bad dreams and felt so sick. I thought I was fit and healthy,

I work out, I havn't really been sick for over 3 years. Just by stoping

all consumption of sugar, wheat and dairy Im out of it.

>

> Is it too fast, 2 days? Maybe I really am sick?

>

> I was a sceptic reading messages of people who get die off. Sorry

guys, I realise this is crazy bad. I suspect the worse is yet to come

and for a long time yet.

>

> Errol

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hey Bee/guys,

> I thought I had oral thrush I have had other symptoms of candida so I decided

to follow through with Bee's plan, (after doing Bee's candida check list). Its

been 2 days and last night I was smashed. I woke up sweating, bad dreams and

felt so sick. I thought I was fit and healthy, I work out, I havn't really been

sick for over 3 years. Just by stoping all consumption of sugar, wheat and

dairy Im out of it.

>

> Is it too fast, 2 days? Maybe I really am sick?

+++Hi Errol. Welcome to our group. No, you would not be sick, since all of

your symptoms are die-off symptoms, which is normal during natural healing - see

this article: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal2.php

+++You have definitely changed over to the diet too quickly so your

die-off/healing symptoms are more severe than is necessary, so please ensure you

follow Curing Candida, How to Get Started:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

> I was a sceptic reading messages of people who get die off. Sorry guys, I

realise this is crazy bad. I suspect the worse is yet to come and for a long

time yet.

+++To lessen your die-off symptoms you might have to backtrack on the diet,

adding back a few carbs, and also cut back on the amount of antifungal, which at

the beginning is only coconut oil.

I hope that helps.

Bee

[Guest guest]

> Hi

>

> been struggling with tingling in face & shoulders for 7 months now, had a

few good days but trying to find whats causing the tingles & emotions, have had

MRI scan on head and all other test all clear ...

> feel real run down & anxious tried stopping wheat , pots, etc , but no joy ..

i know it does take along time, to clear fron your system . all this came about

when i stopped my bad eating habits , sugars sweets, cakes, buiscuits fizzy pop

etc ...... i must say though when i felt good i have never felt so good before

so i'll hang on in there , any other advice would be great

+++Hi Lee. Those tingles are caused by toxins, and emotional reactions will

also occur during natural healing, so hang in there. See this article that

explains emotions: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal10.php

If your symptoms are intolerable cut back on the amount of coconut oil, and take

more time to increase it.

The best to you, Bee

P.S. Lee, may I please ask that you " trim your messages " when you post on the

group - you are leaving in a previous message that is not related to yours.

Instructions were emailed to you when you joined and they are posted on the

group every 2 weeks. Thanks a bunch.

[Guest guest]

Hi

thanks for info , not sure about the trimming? am i being a little thick here ?

regards Lee

[ ] Re: new guy

> Hi

>

> been struggling with tingling in face & shoulders for 7 months now, had a

few good days but trying to find whats causing the tingles & emotions, have had

MRI scan on head and all other test all clear ...

> feel real run down & anxious tried stopping wheat , pots, etc , but no joy

... i know it does take along time, to clear fron your system . all this came

about when i stopped my bad eating habits , sugars sweets, cakes, buiscuits

fizzy pop etc ...... i must say though when i felt good i have never felt so

good before so i'll hang on in there , any other advice would be great

+++Hi Lee. Those tingles are caused by toxins, and emotional reactions will

also occur during natural healing, so hang in there. See this article that

explains emotions: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal10.php

If your symptoms are intolerable cut back on the amount of coconut oil, and

take more time to increase it.

The best to you, Bee

P.S. Lee, may I please ask that you " trim your messages " when you post on the

group - you are leaving in a previous message that is not related to yours.

Instructions were emailed to you when you joined and they are posted on the

group every 2 weeks. Thanks a bunch.

[Guest guest]

Hi Lee,

Regarding 'trimming the messages' Bee wants us to start a new message for new

topics, or if you are responding to someone else's post, you need to delete part

of the other person's message in order to make the post smaller. Only leave

enough of their message so that people reading through can understand what you

are responding to. Messages that contain all of the previous thread block up

people's inboxes and take up server space. We are trying to limit that.

>

> Hi

> thanks for info , not sure about the trimming? am i being a little thick here

?

> regards Lee

[Guest guest]

Thanks .

[ ] Re: new guy

Hi Lee,

Regarding 'trimming the messages' Bee wants us to start a new message for new

topics, or if you are responding to someone else's post, you need to delete part

of the other person's message in order to make the post smaller. Only leave

enough of their message so that people reading through can understand what you

are responding to. Messages that contain all of the previous thread block up

people's inboxes and take up server space. We are trying to limit that.

>

> Hi

> thanks for info , not sure about the trimming? am i being a little thick

here ?

> regards Lee

[Guest guest]

Hello all:

I am Victor Swiercz new to this group. My wife (Barb) has ovarian cancer and I

want to make sure I am doing everything possible to help her. We are doing quite

a few natural things but I want to make sure I am not missing anything that is

helpful. She had surgery and went through chemo. I did take her to several

alternate doctors before settling on one. We did protective measures and

detoxing after each chemo treatment.  So far so good,  I am looking forward to

learn as much as I can.  

Vic

[Guest guest]

Hi Vic, I just now joined this site to gather info for my Mom, who is

dealing with breast cancer. Your post touched my heart and i just

wanted to tell you i'm going to keep you both in my heart and prayers.

I have been scouring the web, as you probably have, looking for info and

alternatives. I am going to order B17 (Laetrile, Amygdalina) for her to start,

among other things. Have you heard of Apricot Seeds or B17?

You might want to check on it....also Dr Leonard Coldwell's site has

alot of info based on alternative cures to cancer. (beware....his site looks

alittle " hoaky " , but i heard his interview on CoastToCoastAM - and i feel he is

sincere and knowledgable) Also pay attention to Dr Oz's path.....his recent

colon cancer scare is turning his attention toward cancers, and

prevention/cures....and he is one person whose motives and sincerity i DO trust.

Recently he mentioned 5 foods to eat every week which can reverse cancer...?

(this is how my mom presented it, i didn't actually see that show)....they are a

type of artichoke heart / Bok-Choy

/ Strawberries / Flounder / Tomato Paste.

Also, there is a heavily concentrated " hemp oil " (look up the Rick

Simpson story online) which is supossed to be very beneficial...and can kill

cancer. Dr Leonard mentioned it on that interview...and said that if applied

to skin cancer...the cancer will dry up and fall off. It is edible in rice

grain sized amounts and has other nutritional / healing benefits...they are

claiming. Getting it seems to be the difficult part, but shouldn't be in

states where you can get a medicinal license.

Anyway, my writing is as scrambled as my mind and emotions have been for the

past month!!! I hope you both are out of the woods, and i'll post back any new

stuff that might be worth checking into!

Warmth and Prayers for you both, Heyoka

_____________________________________

Victor Swiercz <roadmst1@...> wrote:

> I am Victor Swiercz new to this group. My wife (Barb) has ovarian

cancer and I want to make sure I am doing everything possible to help her. We

are doing quite a few natural things but I want to make sure I am not missing

anything that is helpful. She had surgery and went through chemo. I did take her

to several alternate doctors before settling on one. We did protective measures

and detoxing after each chemo treatment. So far so good, I am looking forward

to learn as much as I can. Vic