Re: Re: Arlyn, who doesn't recommend distilled water?

October 16, 2007

Over the years many of us read many things that we no longer can find. For

example I recall reading that there is a compounding of certain unwanted

elements that are actually increased when distilling. Do I have scientific

evidence for this? No. One reason I don't is because I don't use much

distilled water and haven't looked for these points of interest if they even

exist.

We do know that distilled water is not found in nature, however, when compared

to typical municipality water I am sure one would select distilled. I would.

Distilled water was also used by pharmacists when compounding their elixirs but

that goes back quite some time and I suppose they still do. When I fasted, it

was Herbert M. Shelton that used Distilled water for his 'clients' as Elliot

would say, at least I hope that is what he used. Hmmm, I wonder what the

quality of the water was in San during the mid 50s?

Supposedly there are quality filters available but here too we are at the mercy

of advertisers and the testing agencies that are supposed to maintain high

standards. ?

It is like breathing. One can only hope the air we breathe is as pure as it

can be but here too we cannot fret about our immediate environment.........it is

the only one we have at that moment. Do your best.

Joe C.

October 17, 2007

When I was researching what to drink after first being diagnosed, on pubmed

I ran into several studies that showed distilled water was number one, PURE

and about as close to neutral ph as could be found. In addition I found

that it carries a very slight negative charge to it which in turn is a very

great aid in helping the body to flush cells. Cancer slows down and even

stops the natural cell aspiration in many cases. Distilled water will

rejuvenate that activity.

Boiled water gains nothing over tap simply because the impurities that cause

problems are still there unless you happen to kill off the bad bugs. The

steam vapor from the boiling is PURE, provided you run it through a carbon

filter to remove chlorine, fluoride, etc... which are volatiles which boil

at a lower rate than water. Boiling also makes water FLAT. One of the

things you learn when cooking professionally is that boiled water ruins the

oxygenation of the water. It does not put it back in. If you do not

believe me, ask any Chinese chef why tea is never, ever boiled, only

steeped. If you boil tea water, you ruin the tea because the life force of

tea is the oxygen in the water and boiling it kills the oxygen.

Steamed water has no minerals. All heavy deposits are left behind when

boiled to create the steam. That is what the distilling process is all

about. A distiller simply condenses the steam vapor and deposits it in a

specific location.

Reverse Osmosis is the only type of filtration I would consider drinking and

that is because of how it removes almost as much as distilling.

Today, there really is little else in either well or tap water I would

consider fit to drink. But that choice is yours.

Regards,

Bruce Guilmette, Ph.D.

<http://survivecancerfoundation.org>

October 17, 2007

Hi Elliot -

I have done quite a bit of research on the topic of distilled water

leaching minerals from the body, and I do think it is a valid

concern. Here's why:

Distilled and reverse osmosis water both have a low (acidic) pH. I

believe that distilled is around 5 and RO is around 6. Based on

simple chemistry, we know that acidic liquids will leach minerals

from solids. For example, if you want to make a mineral-rich herbal

preparation that can be assimilated by the human body, you first

tincture the herbs in vinegar, since vinegar has an acid pH of around 2.

And it is fairly well known that distilled water will pull toxins out

of human tissue - but it also seems to draw minerals as well as

toxins. I became concerned about this issue because I was drinking RO

water, and my urine pH was testing pretty acid - around 6.2 - even

though I was eating primarily alkaline foods. I switched to spring

water with a pH of around 7 (neutral) and I did not change my diet.

On retesting the urine it was up to around 6.8 - so that confirmed it

for me, since minerals raise pH and lack of minerals lower pH. I

think the RO water must have been dissolving and/or flushing out the

minerals from my vegetables and other alkalinizing (mineral rich) foods.

I don't have all the data and websites that I pulled up when I was

doing research on this, but I got most of my information via google,

and then from calling some of the people on reputable-looking

websites, and asking them questions.

Distilled water is awesome for cleansing, but I do think long term

use can cause problems with mineral loss.

I hope this is helpful...

Lainey

October 17, 2007

Hi Bruce -

I believe this is correct for pure distilled water before it meets

air. But as soon as it meets air, the CO2 causes a chemical reaction

such that the pH drops into the 5 range. Whenever you test distilled

water it comes up 5 according to my tests and others I have read

about online. It's one of the quirks of distilled. It's theoretically

good but practically not so good regarding pH. You could always just

test it with those pH strips to see?

Distilled water also reacts with atmospheric carbon dioxide according to

H2O(ell) + CO2(g) doublearrow H2CO3(aq)

H2CO3(aq) + H2O(ell) doublearrow H3O+(aq) + HCO3-(aq)

HCO3-(aq) + H2O(ell) doublearrow H3O+(aq) + CO32-(aq)

which brings the pH of distilled water in an open-air container down

to about 5.8.

Lainey

On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:43 PM, Bruce Guilmette, Ph. D. wrote:

> When I was researching what to drink after first being diagnosed,

> on pubmed

> I ran into several studies that showed distilled water was number

> one, PURE

> and about as close to neutral ph as could be found.

October 17, 2007

I charted it for nearly 3 months, not with ph strips, but with an electronic

meter borrowed from a chemist friend. I consistently came up with 6.5-6.8

and that worked for me. I had no issue with decreased ph in urination.

Generally speaking your ph level will be about .5 behind saliva and that is

what mine was. If and when I am looking for specific mineral levels, I want

to be the one that adds what is needed, not just what is available in the

water at hand.

Regards,

Bruce Guilmette, Ph.D.

<http://survivecancerfoundation.org>

October 17, 2007

Hi,

So I am curious as to what would happen if one took distilled water, put coral

calcium in it and then let the sun do its thing to the water. I am not sure but

I think that it could form beautiful crystals then. But it may need to stay in

the sunlight for a while like perhaps a day. I have been making this sun water

lately. . I don't know if it is a good thing to do. I have drank distilled

water for 28 years and nothing else. And I thought that maybe I should do

something different after reading Dr. Emoto 's book . The pics look pretty

covincing that just maybe distilled water is not the way to go even though many

big trusted names have said that it is. After one gets used to drinking

distilled water, no other water will taste as good , clean or pure. I don't know

the true answer myself. .....Kay

October 17, 2007

I did a quick google on distilled water and minerals and was surprised

to see the results. Lots of differing opinions - so the jury is still

out for me. One person - can't remember if he was a doctor or not -

noticed that people he knew who used nothing but distilled water started

losing their hair. The hair grew back after stopping the use of

distilled water.

ar

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Arlyn Grant

arlynsg@...

October 17, 2007

My tap water has fluoride and I have been doing a lot of research into how

to remove it. From what I understand carbon does not remove fluoride. So

could you tell me what information you have that it does. Brita filters

which are carbon state they do not remove fluoride

My main argument against distilled water is that because everything has been

removed it will absorb anything it comes in contact with be it carbon

dioxide from the air, metals from cooking utensils or minerals from our

bodies when we drink it.

In what way is RO water different? I thought it was basically the same as

distilled.