Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 I think it's important to note that there is no cure for herpes because the virus resides deep in the nerve ganglia and kind of becomes a part of you. As with all " promises " of a cure, be very skeptical. As a matter-of-fact, this is absurd. This is especially absurd coming from someone whose ID has the word " fool " in it and who joined the group the same day as this post. Beware. ar > > Simple homemade quartz device cures Hepatitis C, Cancer, Herpes, H1N1, AIDS, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 So what should a person take that has herpes? Anything help keep it from flare-ups and pain? Donna ACS > I think it's important to note that there is no cure for herpes > because the virus resides deep in the nerve ganglia and kind of > becomes a part of you. As with all " promises " of a cure, be very > skeptical. As a matter-of-fact, this is absurd. > > This is especially absurd coming from someone whose ID has the word > " fool " in it and who joined the group the same day as this post. > > Beware. > > ar > > > > > > Simple homemade quartz device cures Hepatitis C, Cancer, Herpes, > H1N1, AIDS, etc? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Also elderberry? Cheri > > > > > > Simple homemade quartz device cures Hepatitis C, Cancer, Herpes, > > H1N1, AIDS, etc? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 lysine? Cheri > > > > > > Simple homemade quartz device cures Hepatitis C, Cancer, Herpes, > > H1N1, AIDS, etc? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 The people that asked me to share this, claimed it worked on all viruses. Since one can easily test it on their own without buying anything other than locally, it might be worth a try From: Donna <dscroggs44646@...> So what should a person take that has herpes? Anything help keep it from flare-ups and pain? Ar wrote: > I think it's important to note that there is no cure for herpes > because the virus resides deep in the nerve ganglia and kind of > becomes a part of you. As with all " promises " of a cure, be very > skeptical. As a matter-of-fact, this is absurd. > This is especially absurd coming from someone whose ID has the word > " fool " in it and who joined the group the same day as this post. > Beware. ifoolscrow wrote: Simple homemade quartz device cures Hepatitis C, Cancer, Herpes, H1N1, AIDS, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Fools Crow- I'm a firm believer in quartz crystals and I too believe this is worth a try...don't see what it would hurt. I always try to keep an open mind. Thanks for sharing this info and thanks to the folks who gave it to you. Sandy The people that asked me to share this, claimed it worked on all viruses. Since one can easily test it on their own without buying anything other than locally, it might be worth a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 Similar devices are widely used and greatly discussed on a number of groups. There are many reports of good results despite the simplicity of a battery-and-wire device, and more upmarket versions are being used on cancer by orthodox practitioners. The most basic form, the DIY 6v battery-and-wire is widely used expressly to inactivate bacteria and viruses and other pathogens. Other healing actions are claimed by users, though the designer (non-commercial) limits claims to germ killing. People are treating teeth, prostate, and some very big problems as mentioned by FoolsCrow with the basic DIY battery-and-wire unit ; enhanced versions are very interesting to experienced users. As a very low cost, DIY unit, nobody is making money out of this and people living in disadvantaged circumstances can access an amazing level of treatment. The problem is how to get the current to run through the area you want to treat as, of course, it is only applied to the skin. Only a doctor could use electrical devices inside the body - and we know they do, but not for next to nothing. Also, one nuisance of the device is needing to have the covering on the electrodes damp (cold for softies like me). The quartz crystals might get over that one. But if a person can cope with such tiny disadvantages, they have an amazingly powerful unit that they can probably make from things already lying around the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 For every problem there is a solution as for every disease there is a cure. In fact there is only one cause of disease - TOXEMIA. Detoxify and the body will rebalanced and heal it self. Do not be mislead by anyone whose business is to make people sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Well said, beware of anyone trying to profit from another's sickness. ________________________________ From: ricardo macalino  For every problem there is a solution as for every disease there is a cure. In fact there is only one cause of disease - TOXEMIA. Detoxify and the body will rebalanced and heal it self. Do not be mislead by anyone whose business is to make people sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 I guess you could 'almost' say " beware of someone 'Trying to profit from another's disease' may be valid but not if you had said, profit from 'helping' someone overcome an illness. Then it would not be valid. Ultimately the body will survive, not the treatment. When dealing with cancer, the discovery of it might be such that it is so advance, people can die in as few as two weeks with some cancers without having prior indications cancer or any illness existed. There may not be enough time to detoxify even if that would help. Some people in Alternative circles, at least one I knew 'way back believed Cancer is an end stage pathology and sometimes the tumor burden is so much the body cannot compete with it no matter how much one detoxifies and we are not sure it is the ideal way to help us heal using that method by itself . It is difficult to make absolute statements without leaving room for situational events. There is " only one cure " or any other " only " , " always " just as " never " is just too absolute. There are many individuals that seemingly have cancer in remission or cured depending upon which one would rather use that, years later, seemingly returns. I say seemingly because it is more likely the cancer never left but was under control by the Immune system. Came back? Where did it go? It never left and those cells, of which there may be millions, do their thing again . Obviously one should do better with Detoxification and I'll leave it at that because, to be candid, I did not do any serious detox at all..........maybe none other than some chelation which I did for other than cancer. I am 'clear', we think, for five years now but the game isn't over.............it's not even the last inning or Fourth Quarter. People seem to show no evidence their cancer is active and yet at some juncture, there it is again. I still concur that ultimately it is Toxemia that leads to this End Stage Pathology and some 'experts' say, if we lived long enough and did not die of something else, we would develop cancer. It seems to be too complex a disease/ailment to have one answer on how to best treat it. At some point, like the weather expert, we may be right in some but not all elements about cancer. The stages included in 'End Stage' mentioned earlier are Irritation, inflammation, induration (hardening of tissue) ........all parts of 'checked elimination's and leading to the Toxemia brought up and then on to cancer. Again, not an 'always' because all people do not develop cancer but probably die of something else along the way. What a subject. No 'always' and no 'nevers'. It isn't the meat eater that always develops cancer or the vegetarian that never does. Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 , Your statement is too simplistic and not truthful. Yes, detoxing will cure many ailments. But not all of them. I'm a vegetarian raw foodist who still developed cancer at an early age. There is no way to cure herpes - it is physically impossible. That is why I have a problem with the subject line of this thread. And, how exactly does one find out if their herpes is cured? ar > > For every problem there is a solution as for every disease there is a cure. In fact there is only one cause of disease - TOXEMIA. Detoxify and the body will rebalanced and heal it self. Do not be mislead by anyone whose business is to make people sick. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Am a bit confused, if these machines kill pathogens, they indeed detox? Will they also detox metals such as mercury? Should we detox before using the quartz device? Thanks. > > Similar devices are widely used and greatly discussed on a number of > groups. > There are many reports of good results despite the simplicity of a > battery-and-wire device, and more upmarket versions are being used on > cancer by orthodox practitioners. > The most basic form, the DIY 6v battery-and-wire is widely used > expressly to inactivate bacteria and viruses and other pathogens. > Other healing actions are claimed by users, though the designer > (non-commercial) limits claims to germ killing. > > People are treating teeth, prostate, and some very big problems as > mentioned by FoolsCrow with the basic DIY battery-and-wire unit ; > enhanced versions are very interesting to experienced users. As a very > low cost, DIY unit, nobody is making money out of this and people living > in disadvantaged circumstances can access an amazing level of treatment. > The problem is how to get the current to run through the area you want > to treat as, of course, it is only applied to the skin. Only a doctor > could use electrical devices inside the body - and we know they do, but > not for next to nothing. > Also, one nuisance of the device is needing to have the covering on the > electrodes damp (cold for softies like me). The quartz crystals might > get over that one. > But if a person can cope with such tiny disadvantages, they have an > amazingly powerful unit that they can probably make from things already > lying around the house. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 I am not sure about the detox part. I will ask and post anything I hear here. My understanding is that this somehow kills the pathogens. My personal opinion is that detox is always good for all of us. The people that used this device confidently claim it does not matter and should be used as soon as possible. I know of others trying this out and it will be interesting to hear what their results are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 ar, Yes it is really that simple but simple as it may be you found it not truthful. So here is another very simple process in the universe which you may have not notice happening. For every cause there is the effect. If you will only observed mother nature we all can learn the basic process in life are really simple but was hidden from us and made very complicated by the medical cartel for their own pockets. The physical is not where it really start but from the mind that house our programs and beliefs which runs our life. It is from here that all of our actions are manifested into the physical. Our beliefs dictates all the the things that we do and eat and this in return becomes the cause of the effects which becomes the self. We are totally responsible for everything that happens to us whether we understand/ believe it or not. Detoxifying will help but must be done in a manner that will get rid of all the toxic substance that has accumulated inside us over the years otherwise it will fail. The human body is a very complex machine and the level of understanding that most of us have have not reach to a degree to understand fully how it really works nevertheless it does not mean that there exist a diseases that has no cure. We are the creator of our diseases and the kind of programs that runs into our mind serves as a tool in our creations. When you believe that what you have is incurable then it will be. Not because it is really incurable but because your mind was fixed into believing that it was so. The eyes can only see what you have in you program and that is how things really happen. Realized that you are in a place where all possibilities are infinite thus nothing is really impossible. For more information you may want to learn from the teaching of Abraham Hicks at www.abraham-hicks.com. Additionally you may want to explore the ways of the Breatharians to learn that the real nutrients that the body needs to survive does not come from food alone. Life is a none stop learning process. ________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 said, in part: " When you believe that what you have is incurable then it will be. Not because it is really incurable but because your mind was fixed into believing that it was so. This would have to also allude to: If you believe you will be cured, you will? I will never negate attitude or the mind........conscious or subconscious, however, the graveyards are full of Positive thinking people! There are those that believe a particular 'gadget', 'protocol' will cure them. This cannot work in every case. There are people that know full well cancer kills and they survive many years if not to a full life, another questionable term because I do not know when that ends. Then we have spontaneous remissions that is acknowledged by Conventional Medicine without an explanation. There are people that believe Prayer can cure and even the prayers of their friends and loved ones. We say " we " are the creators of disease? By that do you mean the individual> If you do, then what about the person that is positive thinking,eats properly and tries to be as natural living as possible? Is this person exempt from illness? From Cancer? I do not believe this. Your cause would be better served by saying, 'I believe' and quoting Abraham Hicks gives us someone's opinion. I often state that I learned what I believe about the cause of disease or fasting from Herbert M. Shelton, a Naturopath that was probably the leading authhority on Water Fasting during the 30s - 50s. Even though I did a lengthy fast at his facility and met many that also fasted and seemed to be well, it is my belief and I cannot prove it to anyone. A professor at a Highly Respected Conventional teaching hospital, when speaking about health, said, " at some point it is all opinion " . He was generalizing of course but in most of our cases, that's all it is because few of us are true practitioners that have worked with hundreds or thousands of people with cancer. This topic is apparently going nowhere because elements of it have been discussed thoroughly any number of times. I myself think I've beaten it to death. Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Caution with Abraham Hicks!! How do you know who they channeled. I am not here to argue, just warn! I know that people who subscribe to many of these teachings are well intentioned nice people, but I believe they are being deceived. Investigate before you buy into the " beautiful " messages they offer! See what the Bible says about channeling and contacting spirits! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:30 AM, ricardo wrote: .....you may want to learn from the teaching of Abraham Hicks..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Why not look at a reflexologist's hands and foot diagrams with corresponding body organs. You can then put the quarts on the hand or foot that deals with the problematic organ. > > > > > Similar devices are widely used and greatly discussed on a number of > > groups. > > There are many reports of good results despite the simplicity of a > > battery-and-wire device, and more upmarket versions are being used on > > cancer by orthodox practitioners. > > The most basic form, the DIY 6v battery-and-wire is widely used > > expressly to inactivate bacteria and viruses and other pathogens. > > Other healing actions are claimed by users, though the designer > > (non-commercial) limits claims to germ killing. > > > > People are treating teeth, prostate, and some very big problems as > > mentioned by FoolsCrow with the basic DIY battery-and-wire unit ; > > enhanced versions are very interesting to experienced users. As a very > > low cost, DIY unit, nobody is making money out of this and people living > > in disadvantaged circumstances can access an amazing level of treatment. > > The problem is how to get the current to run through the area you want > > to treat as, of course, it is only applied to the skin. Only a doctor > > could use electrical devices inside the body - and we know they do, but > > not for next to nothing. > > Also, one nuisance of the device is needing to have the covering on the > > electrodes damp (cold for softies like me). The quartz crystals might > > get over that one. > > But if a person can cope with such tiny disadvantages, they have an > > amazingly powerful unit that they can probably make from things already > > lying around the house. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 where are the instructions for building one of these devices found? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 From: Tim Brott: where are the instructions for building one of these devices found? > Here is the latest copy I have from the people that claimed cures from it. I will try to get this on a web page with pictures in the upcoming days: " I have discovered one of the hardest things in the new millennium is for people to freely give things that are beneficial to others. This device works, it has saved my life and the lives of friends. It can be built freely and copied by anyone anywhere with either no cost, or very low cost, and locally available parts. The highest cost part for most would be the six-volt lantern battery. Please try this out, and once you see that it really does work, spread the word. Simple homemade quartz device cures Hepatitis C, Cancer, Herpes, H1N1 (swine flu), AIDS, etc? I was asked by friends to share this easy to build device with everyone. I personally know two people who used only this device to cure incurable diseases. Though the concept is similar to a “zapperâ€, but this can be built in minutes by just about anyone, and the users claim it is MORE effective. One cured person had his doctor confirm that the Hepatitis C he had for 20 years had vanished from his body. He has been free of it for 5 years now. Another cured man tried this for two weeks and his doctor noticed that his main terminal cancer tumor reduced in size by 39% and the satellite tumors had completely disappeared. Shortly thereafter, to the astonishment of his doctors, all the cancer disappeared. This system sounds too simple to work, but it sure seems too and is well worth a try. To build it, you only need the following:  -One six-volt battery (I was told that 6 volts is the target voltage, and not 9.) -Two pieces of wire 3 feet long. This could be speaker wire, etc. -Two pieces of quartz (more on this later, but in general, ANY 2 quartz rocks) -Optional alligator clips to attach to the batter, but not necessary.  Basic Assembly and use:  -Each wire is stripped about an inch on each end.  -Fasten one end of one wire to one of the quartz rocks. The important thing here is to make sure that the stripped portion of the wire is touching the quartz. This could be done with epoxy glue, super glue, silicone, perhaps even tape, or a metal strap. Just bear in mind that you need a surface of the quartz stone exposed to later be in contact with your body. -Now you have two wires with one quartz stone fastened to each wire.  -Attach the free end other end of one wire to one of the battery terminals.  -Attach the free end of the other wire to the other batter terminal.  -Now you have one wire with one quartz stone on each battery terminal.  -Attach the quartz stone that is wired to the POSITIVE terminal of the battery to your body with tape. Make sure the quartz makes contact with your skin (Normally, this would be the part of your body that is afflicted with disease; HOWEVER, in the case of flu viruses, aids, etc., you would try to put this end either on your right shoulder and/or your right leg or foot.)  -The other quartz crystal is taped to another part of your body, preferably as far away from the other quartz stone as possible. Wear these sitting still for at least one hour every day.  Additional Information:  -In the case of terminal diseases, after you are healed, you may have to put yourself on a maintenance plan of doing this 3 times a week to keep yourself healthy.  -For the selection of quartz; I was told that ANY quartz will work (white, rose, smoke, crystal, etc.). I was also advised that a person in tune could pick up a couple rocks that 'feel right.' They could be broken with a hammer to be flat, to fit your body better, BUT, I was warned to tell people not to worry that much about it. Don't waste money on over prices quartz crystals, just try to pick up a couple rocks for free, or if you are in a city, buy them cheap.  -The general theory here is similar to Hulda ’s zapper circuit and its intent. In this case, the quartz takes care of all the oscillations of frequencies on it’s own with no additional electrical circuits necessary, eliminating the viruses, causes, etc.   -This should work regardless of the person's skepticism, but, if possible, the subject's focus on a positive effect is always good advice.  When this works for you, please spread the word as quickly as possible. "  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Further to discussion in November, I have received information indicating that rose quartz might not be good to use in the quartz device. A person who built it reported as under (my words!) Clear Quartz ( " best so far " ) good results Small clear Citrine Quarts " Nice and positive Experience " Rose quartz: First two minutes, felt dizzy and drained. Waves of disorientation every few minutes until nausea set in (12 minutes) Discontinued, recovered in a few hours, but was tired for days afterwards. The original instructions were posted around 22 November by FoolsCrow if anyone needs to find them on the archives. A suggestion has been made that the results might have been die-off as a result of rapid detox, but the experimenter feels it was the rose quartz that induced the unpleasant reaction. Rowena FoolsCrow, you mentioned the possibility that more detailed instructions might be posted on a website. Has this happened so far? Fools Crow wrote: > I am not sure about the detox part. I will ask and post anything I hear here. My understanding is that this somehow kills the pathogens. My personal opinion is that detox is always good for all of us. The people that used this device confidently claim it does not matter and should be used as soon as possible. I know of others trying this out and it will be interesting to hear what their results are. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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