Colonoscopy

[Guest guest]

Tell them and take the picture!!!! I have an EGD and colonoscopy next week. I

gave my doctor the website so he could look at it if needed. He was very glad to

see the drawing

Re: Colonoscopy

I was doing a search on the archives to find out how others have done

with the colonoscopies in their lives - post/mgb ... I noticed only

one person say she took a copy of the 'drawing' of our new small

intestine hook up for review by the doc before her surgery. So I

guess I'm wondering if others did the same or do you all just tell the

doctor you had gastric bypass surgery, (or not)?

Which brings me to wording the question another way as well if that is

Ok... did any of you that had this procedure not tell the doc. doing

it that you even have the mgb? I believe they only scope out the

large intestine so I am thinking it does not matter, but then it also

seems like the more information they have about one the better. My

guess is that some just don't mention it so I'm wondering how that

worked for you?

Thanks again for any input ~ tis greatly appreciated!

barb/oHIo

03/03 dr. R(the best).

[Guest guest]

Barb:

i had an endoscopy done at the same time. So the doc knew I had had the MGB.

However, I got the c-diff bacteria as a result of my cleaning out and the bad

bacteria coming back faster then the good bacteria. I suffered with the worst

stomach craps and loose stools for a month. If it wasn't for me calling Dr. R

and him telling me immediately to get tested I don't know what would of

happened. So yes tell your doctor about the MGB and then be on the lookout for

c-diff

-------------- Original message from " Barbara " <barb0402003@...>:

--------------

I was doing a search on the archives to find out how others have done

with the colonoscopies in their lives - post/mgb ... I noticed only

one person say she took a copy of the 'drawing' of our new small

intestine hook up for review by the doc before her surgery. So I

guess I'm wondering if others did the same or do you all just tell the

doctor you had gastric bypass surgery, (or not)?

Which brings me to wording the question another way as well if that is

Ok... did any of you that had this procedure not tell the doc. doing

it that you even have the mgb? I believe they only scope out the

large intestine so I am thinking it does not matter, but then it also

seems like the more information they have about one the better. My

guess is that some just don't mention it so I'm wondering how that

worked for you?

Thanks again for any input ~ tis greatly appreciated!

barb/oHIo

03/03 dr. R(the best).

[Guest guest]

I just had a colonoscopy last month, my first.  I told the doctor,  I had a

gastric by-pass and he said he had done this procedure on other by-pass

patients.  I'm sure I was the only MGB patient, because he was unfamiliar with

my unbelievable 38 minute procedure and 24 hour hospital stay!  You should have

seen the look on his face and the nurses!  Anyway, I also had an endoscopy too,

at the same time.  They got me from both ends!  I had been having trouble with

acid reflux.  The procedure was no big deal.  Everything went well, in and out

in less than 2 hours.  They found I had diviticulosis, gastritis, and

hemorhoids, (no surprise on the latter).  The best thing that came out of this

was the doctor prescribed " Reglan "   I got the generic brand, for me to take

after I eat, if I have that " too full feeling " .  It moves the food faster

through the stomach.  Since I've been taking it, only on a PRN basis, I have not

had any acid reflux!  I also

take omeprozole 2x a day.  I just wish I didn't have so many bowel movements

and that it didn't stink so bad!  That's the biggest drawback.  After 6 years, I

have maintained by weight at a healthy level.

 

H.

dr. r  7/15/02

259/145

From: Barbara <barb0402003@...>

Subject: Re: Colonoscopy

Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 10:29 PM

I was doing a search on the archives to find out how others have done

with the colonoscopies in their lives - post/mgb ... I noticed only

one person say she took a copy of the 'drawing' of our new small

intestine hook up for review by the doc before her surgery. So I

guess I'm wondering if others did the same or do you all just tell the

doctor you had gastric bypass surgery, (or not)?

Which brings me to wording the question another way as well if that is

Ok... did any of you that had this procedure not tell the doc. doing

it that you even have the mgb? I believe they only scope out the

large intestine so I am thinking it does not matter, but then it also

seems like the more information they have about one the better. My

guess is that some just don't mention it so I'm wondering how that

worked for you?

Thanks again for any input ~ tis greatly appreciated!

barb/oHIo

03/03 dr. R(the best).

[Guest guest]

I have had two colonoscopies since my mgb and two endoscopies since. I told

the doctor doing each what I'd had done. They said it was not a problem or

issue and I had no problems having either procedure.

Flo

_____

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of Barbara

Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:30 PM

Subject: Re: Colonoscopy

I was doing a search on the archives to find out how others have done

with the colonoscopies in their lives - post/mgb ... I noticed only

one person say she took a copy of the 'drawing' of our new small

intestine hook up for review by the doc before her surgery. So I

guess I'm wondering if others did the same or do you all just tell the

doctor you had gastric bypass surgery, (or not)?

Which brings me to wording the question another way as well if that is

Ok... did any of you that had this procedure not tell the doc. doing

it that you even have the mgb? I believe they only scope out the

large intestine so I am thinking it does not matter, but then it also

seems like the more information they have about one the better. My

guess is that some just don't mention it so I'm wondering how that

worked for you?

Thanks again for any input ~ tis greatly appreciated!

barb/oHIo

03/03 dr. R(the best).

[Guest guest]

I have had 2 and did not have any problems with either.

jane

5.17-02

311/141/167

Re: Colonoscopy

I was doing a search on the archives to find out how others have done

with the colonoscopies in their lives - post/mgb ... I noticed only

one person say she took a copy of the 'drawing' of our new small

intestine hook up for review by the doc before her surgery. So I

guess I'm wondering if others did the same or do you all just tell the

doctor you had gastric bypass surgery, (or not)?

Which brings me to wording the question another way as well if that is

Ok... did any of you that had this procedure not tell the doc. doing

it that you even have the mgb? I believe they only scope out the

large intestine so I am thinking it does not matter, but then it also

seems like the more information they have about one the better. My

guess is that some just don't mention it so I'm wondering how that

worked for you?

Thanks again for any input ~ tis greatly appreciated!

barb/oHIo

03/03 dr. R(the best).

[Guest guest]

>

> I have had 2 and did not have any problems with either.

> jane

> 5.17-02

> 311/141/167

> Re: Colonoscopy

>

> I was doing a search on the archives to find out how others have

done

> with the colonoscopies in their lives - post/mgb ... I noticed

only

> one person say she took a copy of the 'drawing' of our new small

> intestine hook up for review by the doc before her surgery. So I

> guess I'm wondering if others did the same or do you all just

tell the

> doctor you had gastric bypass surgery, (or not)?

>

> Which brings me to wording the question another way as well if

that is

> Ok... did any of you that had this procedure not tell the doc.

doing

> it that you even have the mgb? I believe they only scope out the

> large intestine so I am thinking it does not matter, but then it

also

> seems like the more information they have about one the better. My

> guess is that some just don't mention it so I'm wondering how that

> worked for you?

>

> Thanks again for any input ~ tis greatly appreciated!

>

> barb/oHIo

> 03/03 dr. R(the best).

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would think that your gastro Dr needs all the info you can give them.

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Barbara <barb0402003@...> wrote:

> I was doing a search on the archives to find out how others have done

> with the colonoscopies in their lives - post/mgb ... I noticed only

> one person say she took a copy of the 'drawing' of our new small

> intestine hook up for review by the doc before her surgery. So I

> guess I'm wondering if others did the same or do you all just tell the

> doctor you had gastric bypass surgery, (or not)?

>

> Which brings me to wording the question another way as well if that is

> Ok... did any of you that had this procedure not tell the doc. doing

> it that you even have the mgb? I believe they only scope out the

> large intestine so I am thinking it does not matter, but then it also

> seems like the more information they have about one the better. My

> guess is that some just don't mention it so I'm wondering how that

> worked for you?

>

> Thanks again for any input ~ tis greatly appreciated!

>

> barb/oHIo

> 03/03 dr. R(the best).

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

No Problem. Had one done last year. Just make sure the Doc and staff

are informed that your are banded.

05/17/2006

Dr. Spiegel

> I was wondering?? I am having a colonoscopy next week. I know it is

> another part of the body, however, I have never had one since being

banded. I am thinking there will be no problems with a band. I hope I

am correct.

> Lorraine

> Olympia

> 8/2006

[Guest guest]

Agree that no problem, I've had them too. Twice.

However, though my doc knows I'm banded (my regular doc does them one

day a week), if he gets the scope THAT far up my system then he's

doing one heck of a thorough job!

dan

Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 9:20:06 AM, you wrote:

> No Problem. Had one done last year. Just make sure the Doc and staff

> are informed that your are banded.

--

" It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life " Jon Bon Jovi

Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk

Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana

Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years

Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana

[Guest guest]

If they can reach all the way to your band from that end it would be something

for the record books! LOL actually they go nowhere near that far, there is

actually a part in your bowels that can't be reached from either end (egd or

colonoscopy) no sure how much it is, but no worries.

-------------- Original message ----------------------

From: " Lorraine " <roloent@...>

> I was wondering?? I am having a colonoscopy next week. I know it is

> another part of the body, however, I have never had one since being banded.

> I am thinking there will be no problems with a band. I hope I am correct.

> Lorraine

> Olympia

> 8/2006

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Please everyone, GET A COLONOSCOPY. My dear friend, who is in mid-50s, is dying

of colon cancer that has now also spread to her liver. If she had had regular

colonoscopies, it probably would have been caught & cured early. My mother,

meantime, had a large mass in her colon that was cancerous, but they were able

to get it early, get it out, and she appears to be cancer-free, we pray.

G. in Olympia

C-) 

[Guest guest]

Thank you all for answering the colonoscopy question. I didn't want to be

the butt of a joke!!

Lorraine

[Guest guest]

It won't interfere with the band at all, but the oral cleansing

solution that you must drink the day before might be difficult. It

doesn't taste very good, and the best way is to drink it quickly - but

we cannot do that with the band. I think there are some flavored kinds

you can ask for.

Sandy r

>

> I was wondering?? I am having a colonoscopy next week. I know it is

> another part of the body, however, I have never had one since being

banded.

> I am thinking there will be no problems with a band. I hope I am

correct.

> Lorraine

> Olympia

> 8/2006

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, I'm really sorry about your friend. That's very very sad.

Unless there is a family history or a positive stool test for blood in

the stool, most insurances will not authorize a colonoscopy until age

50, and then every 5 yrs.

Therefore, it's important to get a yearly stool test, at the yearly

physical we all need, as " icky " as it may be.

We may have to remind our docs, sadly, about the stool test AND the

colonoscopy at age 50. Also, discuss any family history of colon

cancer or other cancers with your family doc.

Sandy r

>

> Please everyone, GET A COLONOSCOPY. My dear friend, who is in mid-

50s, is dying of colon cancer that has now also spread to her liver.

If she had had regular colonoscopies, it probably would have been

caught & cured early. My mother, meantime, had a large mass in her

colon that was cancerous, but they were able to get it early, get it

out, and she appears to be cancer-free, we pray.

> G. in Olympia

>

> C-) 

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 11:19:18 PM, you wrote:

> Thank you all for answering the colonoscopy question. I didn't want to be

> the butt of a joke!!

Right. Never want to be the butt of a joke about a colonoscopy.

And as others have noted, be sure to get one. My little sister died

of cancer 12 years ago at 52 from cancer, and it was in colon and

total GI system. A colonoscopy would have found it sooner. No way of

knowing if it would have saved her, but would have given her a better

chance.

--

" It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life " Jon Bon Jovi

Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk

Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana

Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years

Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana

[Guest guest]

The best thing, just in case, is to stop the LDN a day or two before the procedure.

They generally use Versed and occasionally some Demerol or other narcotics (not a lot for colonoscopy). It is generally moderate sedation, not exactly unconscious. You won't know a thing. The worst thing about colonoscopy is the prep. Stay close to the bathroom! You can start LDN that night if you aren't on any narcotics.

From: jodah235 <jodah235@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Colonoscopylow dose naltrexone Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 2:21 PM

I need to do a colonoscopy and I was wondering if I need to be worriedwith any of the sedation meds they might use to knock me out?They said the anesthesiologist chooses the meds and they will call meto let me know what they will use for me.Which ones do I need to watch out for being on LDN?Jodi

[Guest guest]

Have done a colonoscopy with sedation. The entire session was just relaxing. I kind of slept, didn't register anything at all, didn't feel any pain or any discomfort. I was awake at the same time, because I could here them talking to me, and I did what they told me to do. Don't use LDN the night before or maybe two nights before. You could start again the same night as you do the colonoscopy.

Good luck! Ingrid

From: jodah235 <jodah235@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 8:21:51 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] ColonoscopyI need to do a colonoscopy and I was wondering if I need to be worriedwith any of the sedation meds they might use to knock me out?They said the anesthesiologist chooses the meds and they will call meto let me know what they will use for me.Which ones do I need to watch out for being on LDN?Jodi------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Great article, thanks. The article explains why colons look so clean during the colonoscopy:Each successive colonoscopy damages natural intestinal microflora, because this procedure requires a thorough lavage — a washing out of the large intestine with large doses of synthetic laxatives, followed by bowel irrigation with polyethylene glycol and hypertonic electrolytes.On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Mrs. Barley <chosenbarley@...> wrote:

There were a few posts here about bowel cleanses and how colonoscopies

prove that the inside of the large bowel is clean, no matter what. I

don't know what the truth is, but just today, I found something

interesting on colonoscopies - that they are BAD for you.

http://www.fibermenace.com/crc/crc_side_effects.html-- Alan

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I am on Bee's Candida diet, and it is going well (Thank you Bee).

>

> However I have been referred to have a colonoscopy done next month, and am not

sure how this will effect my candida program. Has anyone had a colonscopy

before?

+++Hi . Doctors are required to have patients undergo a colonoscopy as a

routine check these days because of the high incidents of colon cancer.

However, you don't have to have any symptoms that point to cancer. I think it

is just another " make work " project which gives them profits, rather than

helping their patients.

Why does your doctor want to do one on you?

>

> I understand they give you some chemicals to flush out your system. I am not

very excited excited about that, so it there any way around it? Are they the

same type of chemicals used in retail programs like " yeast buster " ?

>

> Perhaps maybe in the end it is not so bad as it will clean out my colon of any

toxins?

+++No, it won't help your colon at all; in fact it harms you!

Bee

[Guest guest]

So frustrating, this medical system we have!

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee, thanks vety much for your response. The colonoscopy protocol does seem

to make sense to me in terms of prevention. I don't really see how it could be

considered money making. Aren't the benefits of early detection undeniable? What

alternatives might there be to detecting it?

I am particularly at a high risk as my father passed away from colon cancer, and

my brother developed two polyps in his early thirties, which doubles his chances

of developing it. I am also in my early thirties so my doctor has recommended

one for me.

Don't the rewards of early detection outweigh the risks in your opinions(which I

am still not certain of)? You mentioned that it harms you, does this mean its

generally unhealthy, as in having an unhealthy meal. Or are there long term

risks resulting from this process?

Any thoughts from anyone would be great,

Thanks

> >

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I am on Bee's Candida diet, and it is going well (Thank you Bee).

> >

> > However I have been referred to have a colonoscopy done next month, and am

not sure how this will effect my candida program. Has anyone had a colonscopy

before?

>

> +++Hi . Doctors are required to have patients undergo a colonoscopy as a

routine check these days because of the high incidents of colon cancer.

However, you don't have to have any symptoms that point to cancer. I think it

is just another " make work " project which gives them profits, rather than

helping their patients.

>

> Why does your doctor want to do one on you?

> >

> > I understand they give you some chemicals to flush out your system. I am not

very excited excited about that, so it there any way around it? Are they the

same type of chemicals used in retail programs like " yeast buster " ?

> >

> > Perhaps maybe in the end it is not so bad as it will clean out my colon of

any toxins?

>

> +++No, it won't help your colon at all; in fact it harms you!

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

What is it that you find frustrating about the medical system in this case?

>

> So frustrating, this medical system we have!

>

> Kathy

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee, thanks vety much for your response. The colonoscopy protocol does seem

to make sense to me in terms of prevention. I don't really see how it could be

considered money making. Aren't the benefits of early detection undeniable? What

alternatives might there be to detecting it?

+++Hi . It is definitely a money making scheme, just like most warnings by

the medical industry, i.e. to get tested since you might not know you have

cancer, etc. Then they can do toxic cancer treatments which costs dearly in

money, health and suffering. Did you know that more people " live off of cancer "

than those that have it? Every cancer patient means $350,000 in profits to the

drug and medical industries. The only things that are trully preventative are

" good nutrition " and eliminating toxins.

>

> I am particularly at a high risk as my father passed away from colon cancer,

and my brother developed two polyps in his early thirties, which doubles his

chances of developing it. I am also in my early thirties so my doctor has

recommended one for me.

+++If you are completely on this program your body will be healing, and it will

not regress.

>

> Don't the rewards of early detection outweigh the risks in your opinions(which

I am still not certain of)? You mentioned that it harms you, does this mean its

generally unhealthy, as in having an unhealthy meal. Or are there long term

risks resulting from this process?

+++No the rewards of early detection don't outweigh the risks at all. Early

detection tests put your body through a lot, making it work so much harder at

trying to maintain health. For example, Mammograms cause more cancer than they

detect because of the high radiation. Also men with prostrate cancer live

longer " with it " than if they get it treated. In other words, the cure is worse

than the disease itself.

+++The medical field applies " theories " to detect cancer, and their " so-called "

theories don't work, since they are based upon whether cells in an area are

regenerating higher than " they " deem is correct. Here's a story about a nurse

who was treated for leukemia, only to find out she actually had candida:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cancer5.php

+++Dr. Simoncini, in Italy, shows that cancer isn't cancer at all, and that

medical theories on cancer aren't true - he says cancer is actually a

fungus/candida: http://www.cancerisafungus.com/ He actually has videos of the

inside of cancer tumours being treated with baking soda showing it dissolving

cancer. However, I don't recommend self-administration of baking soda since it

throws off minerals balances, and " if " the person doesn't get " proper nutrition "

they will get it again and again.

+++My sister is a hospice nurse, and she said they don't treat candida in people

who have cancer because they are dying anyway. They only treat it " if " it is

obviously making them uncomfortable.

+++She had a man with cancer whose skin was horrible so she rubbed extra virgin

olive oil into it frequently. After awhile he went home because he didn't have

cancer any more. She instructed him to continue the treatment, but a year later

or so, he was back on hospice because he hadn't been using olive oil - he

eventually died of " so-called " cancer. We know that olive oil is antifungal,

just like other natural fats, i.e. butter, lard, coconut oil, etc.

The best to you, Bee

[Guest guest]

THis is a very good question.

I recently had my every 5-yr colonoscopy and did have trouble drinking that much

that quickly. I actually could not drink that much that fast and complete the

prep in the time needed, and got postponed. I got to do it all again 2 weeks

later, yuck.

1. forget the buillion - way too salty. the prep is salty enough.

2. Give yourself the entire day before to drink the solution. My initial

instructions were to start like 6 pm the night before, which I did and it didn't

work.

For the second attempt 2 weeks later, starting to drink the solution at noon the

day before worked. It doesn't matter if you complete it early - then simply stay

on clear liquids to stay cleared out.

Any stool needs to be purely water and with NO brownish color.

3. Do not move far from the bathroom after you start drinking the prep. Trust me

on this. I basically stayed in there for hours, reading. Yes, you'll usually

need to take the day off work.

None of this is fun, but colonoscopies are VERY VERY essential. Nothing about

them is as bad as having colon cancer.

Sandy r

>

> I am 4 years out on my lapband and it has become time (5 years) for a

colonoscopy. I have a strong family history of colon cancer so this is a

procedure that I am persistent about.

>

> My question is in regard to the " prep " . Has anyone had any problems with this?

And/or does anyone have any suggestions for making it easier.

>

> My instructions are drinking the gallon of " laxative " the day before, at a

rate of 1 to 2 cups per hour; drink at least 10 cups of water to prevent

dehydration, drink 2 - 4 cups of broth or bullion AND stay on a clear liquid all

day.

>

> Am I going to be sitting on the commode all day or am I only imagining the

worst? Maybe I should be thinking this is going to be a quick start on losing

more.

>

> Any input is appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I had a colonoscopy a few weeks back now.I am a banded RNYer.I was instructed

to mix a small bottle of Mirilax with 2 quarts of prepared crystal light.I drank

that the day before starting at noon.I took 2 dulcolax or generic when I started

the mixture and 2 dulcolax when I completed the mixture.I wasn't on the pot the

entire day and I didn't get the sore rear like I have in the past after using

the gallon of Golightly(what a joke)..I did Isopure protein shakes

premade(yellow,blue) and had broth and s/f jello.No red products.I was

completely cleaned out and had no problems..

HTH

SharonS

In , " ejstime " <ejstime@...> wrote:

>

> I am 4 years out on my lapband and it has become time (5 years) for a

colonoscopy. I have a strong family history of colon cancer so this is a

procedure that I am persistent about.

>

> My question is in regard to the " prep " . Has anyone had any problems with this?

And/or does anyone have any suggestions for making it easier.

>

> My instructions are drinking the gallon of " laxative " the day before, at a

rate of 1 to 2 cups per hour; drink at least 10 cups of water to prevent

dehydration, drink 2 - 4 cups of broth or bullion AND stay on a clear liquid all

day.

>

> Am I going to be sitting on the commode all day or am I only imagining the

worst? Maybe I should be thinking this is going to be a quick start on losing

more.

>

> Any input is appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

>