Colonoscopy

September 15, 2000

Joanne,

I agree, a colonoscopy IS an important diagnostic tool. I was resistant to

having one because I've had so many tests this past couple of years, I've

wanted a break from anything that wasn't imperative. I do think that they

should try some of the less invasive tests first, though, if they suspect a

problem.

Take care,

Geri

March 16, 2001

Hi Dave and welcome to the group.

I am sending you a picture of what came out of colons.

My doctor did not see anything when I had my colonostopy. And the stool

samples they took did not show anything either.

But I expelled plenty on my own. Especially parasites.

Christel

bowel cleanse/files/DrJensen/mucoidal-plaque3.jpg

March 16, 2001

Greetings people of the bowel cleanse list! This is my first post. Thanks for being so candid with your experiences. It really helps!

My parents are both in their sixties, trim and fit. Not ever really sick either. They have been blessed with good health and a positive attitude.

Both recently had a colonoscopy. Both were asked to fast the day before and were given some kind of laxative, which was not herbal since the doctor was a main stream M.D. It was a powerful laxative and it "cleaned them out" according to their story.

During the colonoscopy, here's what they found in my dad's colon: NOTHING

During the colonoscopy, here's what they found in my mom's colon: NOTHING

Not a polup, not a diverticuli, not a worm, not a scrap of "matter" or anything else, except the lining of very clean bowel wall.

They are omnivores, raised in New York Italian families. They ate freely. Even though they have healthy metabolisms, and are healthy compared with others their age, i would have expected SOMETHING to be in the colon.

Now, the doctor could have missed that which he was not trained to see. I understand this concept. But, even an M.D. with no expectation of seeing anything in there would see 20 year old encrusted black tar-like matter on the intestinal wall. Wouldn't he? or she?

Or polups or diverticuli or worms, etc. etc. ???

The M.D.s (they both saw a different doctor) could have LIED to my parents if they saw encrusted matter. Or the MD's could have seen it and ignored it.

If my parent's intestinal wall was truly clean, then was it the strong laxative they took that did most of the job? Or was it their good health overall which was mostly responsible?

I ask these questions because my mom recently has had a chest cold that she has not been able to shake. Like bronchitis or asthma. She has never had problems with her lungs before and causes are many i am sure.

She is interested in cleansing the concept of a bowel cleanse, but she has yet to see any real proof that her bowel is clogged.

Plus, i have asked two anatomists about matter in the colon. They did not recall seeing anything in any of the cadavers they dissected that would lead them to conclude that colon's are the mess many colon therapists say they are.

Thanks and look forward to your feedback,

Dave

March 17, 2001

In a message dated 03/16/2001 11:54:35 PM Central Standard Time,

davemig@... writes:

<< Plus, i have asked two anatomists about matter in the colon. They did not

recall seeing anything in any of the cadavers they dissected that would lead

them to conclude that colon's are the mess many colon therapists say they are.

Thanks and look forward to your feedback,

Dave

>>

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Dear Dave,

My mother-in-law saw a gasrointestinal MD for 2 yrs and said there

was no problem. Then all of a sudden she developed a mass in her

colon (the same one they couldn't find anything in)and

went in the hospital and never came out alive. She too was never sick.

That was last June. So.....

Edith

March 17, 2001

Here is an article on colon health that might be of interest to all of you.

Christel

THE POLLUTED COLON: THE MOST WIDESPREAD PROBLEM

THAT MD'S DON'T TELL YOU ABOUT, YET CAN BE NATURALLY

CORRECTED RESULTING IN TERRIFIC HEALING AND A FLAT

STOMACH.

Dr. Bernard Jensen, D.C., PH.D., Nutritionist:

" In the 50 years I've spent helping people to overcome illness,

disability and disease, it has become crystal clear that poor

bowel management lies at the root of most people's health

problems. In treating over 300,000 patients, it is the bowel

that invariably has to be cared for before any healing can take

place. "

A simple thing like cleansing and detoxifying the

colon can produce tremendous benefits, eliminate many health

disorders, restore normal bowel movements, lose weight and

SHRINK OR ELIMINATE A POT BELLY resulting in a flatter

stomach!

A clean healthy colon is vital for a healthy life. Normal

bowel movements, 2 to 3 a day are essential, yet many go only

once every two days or three. A polluted colon practically invites cancer -

in cancer patients, the colon is like a clogged, rotting sewer line.

Colon cleansing was an accepted medical practice 70

year ago, known to produce good health, yet now is completely

abandoned (no money in it), replaced by drugs and surgery. Some

therapists today can effect true healing with colon detoxification

alone!

THE MOST ABUSED AND NEGLECTED ORGAN

During the past century we have introduced an avalanche

of chemicals, pollutants and toxins into our food and body products

that have over stressed the natural working order of the systems

in the body and impared the functioning of vital organs. We are born

with a clean, unabused, uniform colon. However, modern commercial

diets with foreign substances, unnatural to the body, have caused

the colon to become obstructed, distorted and engorged with toxic

waste matter resulting in critical stress on the immune system and

functions throughout the body.

MOST POT BELLIES ARE CAUSED BY A POLLUTED

SAGGING COLON

Americans are known for their pot bellies. The reason:

the colon that supports the stomach is sagging. The colon

walls are lined with layers of fecal matter and mucous - filthy,

black, toxic mucus, often the consistency of hard rubber.

Blockage can be so severe, feces can barely pass through.

Documented cases show this accumulated trash weighing up to

40 lbs!

There is a direct correlation between the condition of

the intestinal tract and the overall functioning of the body. When

the bowel fails to release all its waste, a toxic liquid enters the

blood stream, organs, tissues, arteries, veins, lymph and then

all cells. This autointoxication is at the root of all chronic illness.

Colon blockage prevents nutrient absorption and almost no

vitamins and minerals through regardless of how much one takes.

THE MOST POWERFUL THING ONE SHOULD DO IS

DETOXIFY AND REHABILITATE THE COLON

By eliminating encrusted fecal matter accumulated

over the years and stripping the mucus lining on the colon, you

remove a major contributor to disease. Accumulated fecal matter

causes the lymphatic system to become congested. During

acute illness, a toxic lymph is usually present and prevents

the white blood cells from fighting disease.

Parasites, worms and harmful bacteria remain in the

colon thriving on filth, rot and stagnant putrefactive matter.

The body can be like a walking garbage can, carrying

rotting matter in the colon for 5 to 10 years. But the bowel can

again function efficiently for waste elimination and good nutrient

absorption imperative to strong health and healing. This also

allows friendly, beneficial bacteria to return safe from putrification.

The solution is simple: throughly cleanse the colon to

remove toxic debris and stop eating junk food, processed foods

with unnatural substances. The body will respond with astonishing

reversal and restore a state of excellent health for your general well

being in life.

**********

March 17, 2001

Hi group. I am a 75 year young guy, who just had a colonoscopy done this

past week. I too took the 4 liter laxative. Started at noon, per

instructions, and finished off the last glass at about 4:00PM I started

to have large bowel movements at about 2:00pm and they continued until

about 8:00 PM. By that time, all I was expelling was clear water.

Also, per instructions, I took 4 ducolax tablets at bedtime 10:00PM.

By 2:00 AM, I had to have a bowel movement, and I could not believe the

fecal material that flowed out of me, Dark brown, some rather black

looking, and very foul smelling. I had to go a total of three times and

each time I had the same very foul fecal material. Before going in

for the examination, I gave myself a colonic, and even after all of the

laxatives, I still flowed all types of brown and black material. It took

over an hour to finally get clear water returns. Following the

colonoscopy, The doctor said that I has a remarkable colon, Very clean,

no problems with Diverticulosis. I did have some internal hemorrhoids

but other than that my colon was in excellent condition. I have

to do enemas or colonics at least once every 6 to 7 days due to an

childhood injury which messed up the bottom 12 or so inches of the

rectum and ascending colon part of the sigmoid flexure. My colon

remains normal size, and before this cleanout I always thought very

clean. but after all of the fecal material I expelled with the laxatives

I am not so sure that even enemas and colonics do all of that through a

job on keeping the colon clean. But, in my case of course I get a lot of

back up due to lack of muscle tone in the lower colon. Hope this helps

give some further iight into the actions of the colon

March 17, 2001

Hi Corky609, congrats on the cleansing.

What type of tablets are the Doculax? Are the herbal or medicine?

Thanks

- Vito

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>Subject: Re: Colonoscopy

>Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:19:01 -0700 (MST)

>

>Hi group. I am a 75 year young guy, who just had a colonoscopy done this

>past week. I too took the 4 liter laxative. Started at noon, per

>instructions, and finished off the last glass at about 4:00PM I started

>to have large bowel movements at about 2:00pm and they continued until

>about 8:00 PM. By that time, all I was expelling was clear water.

>Also, per instructions, I took 4 ducolax tablets at bedtime 10:00PM.

>By 2:00 AM, I had to have a bowel movement, and I could not believe the

>fecal material that flowed out of me, Dark brown, some rather black

>looking, and very foul smelling. I had to go a total of three times and

>each time I had the same very foul fecal material. Before going in

>for the examination, I gave myself a colonic, and even after all of the

>laxatives, I still flowed all types of brown and black material. It took

>over an hour to finally get clear water returns. Following the

>colonoscopy, The doctor said that I has a remarkable colon, Very clean,

>no problems with Diverticulosis. I did have some internal hemorrhoids

>but other than that my colon was in excellent condition. I have

>to do enemas or colonics at least once every 6 to 7 days due to an

>childhood injury which messed up the bottom 12 or so inches of the

>rectum and ascending colon part of the sigmoid flexure. My colon

>remains normal size, and before this cleanout I always thought very

>clean. but after all of the fecal material I expelled with the laxatives

>I am not so sure that even enemas and colonics do all of that through a

>job on keeping the colon clean. But, in my case of course I get a lot of

>back up due to lack of muscle tone in the lower colon. Hope this helps

>give some further iight into the actions of the colon

>

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March 17, 2001

" If the turd don't stink...don't kick it " !

Re: Colonoscopy

Greetings people of the bowel cleanse list! This is my first post. Thanks for being so candid with your experiences. It really helps!

My parents are both in their sixties, trim and fit. Not ever really sick either. They have been blessed with good health and a positive attitude.

Both recently had a colonoscopy. Both were asked to fast the day before and were given some kind of laxative, which was not herbal since the doctor was a main stream M.D. It was a powerful laxative and it " cleaned them out " according to their story.

During the colonoscopy, here's what they found in my dad's colon: NOTHING

During the colonoscopy, here's what they found in my mom's colon: NOTHING

Not a polup, not a diverticuli, not a worm, not a scrap of " matter " or anything else, except the lining of very clean bowel wall.

They are omnivores, raised in New York Italian families. They ate freely. Even though they have healthy metabolisms, and are healthy compared with others their age, i would have expected SOMETHING to be in the colon.

Now, the doctor could have missed that which he was not trained to see. I understand this concept. But, even an M.D. with no expectation of seeing anything in there would see 20 year old encrusted black tar-like matter on the intestinal wall. Wouldn't he? or she?

Or polups or diverticuli or worms, etc. etc. ???

The M.D.s (they both saw a different doctor) could have LIED to my parents if they saw encrusted matter. Or the MD's could have seen it and ignored it.

If my parent's intestinal wall was truly clean, then was it the strong laxative they took that did most of the job? Or was it their good health overall which was mostly responsible?

I ask these questions because my mom recently has had a chest cold that she has not been able to shake. Like bronchitis or asthma. She has never had problems with her lungs before and causes are many i am sure.

She is interested in cleansing the concept of a bowel cleanse, but she has yet to see any real proof that her bowel is clogged.

Plus, i have asked two anatomists about matter in the colon. They did not recall seeing anything in any of the cadavers they dissected that would lead them to conclude that colon's are the mess many colon therapists say they are.

Thanks and look forward to your feedback,

Dave

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March 17, 2001

great post! thank you for the internal/inside information! it helped alot

to hear that we...again...are all different.

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