Guest guest Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 In a message dated 2/26/03 6:59:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, judehoff@... writes: > I have taken this medication since 88 for breast cancer. It's a great one. Hi, Can you tell me where you get it and how to determine the exact kind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 In a message dated 2/26/03 6:59:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, judehoff@... writes: > I have taken this medication since 88 for breast cancer. It's a great one. Hi, Can you tell me where you get it and how to determine the exact kind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Hi... I have taken this medication since 88 for breast cancer. It's a great one. I had 10 years with no problems which I attribute to it. It's called Iscadore.It is an injection you give yourself on a certain schedule. There are various strengths that come in little vials. According to what kind of cancer you have determines what tree the mistletoe comes from...for breast cancer it's the apple tree. In 98 my cancer came back I believe due to maximum stress that went on in my life for two or three years...I was not religiously taking the Iscadore during those times nor was I careful with my diet...I was too depressed,etc. anyhow I have a stronger Rx from switzerland and I'm back on it with chemo and it remains to be seen how I'm going to do at this point......but Iscadore is wonderful....no bad effects. I went to Switzerland to the clinic where they produce it in the early 90's and it was a wonderful holistic place...Iscadore is the only medicine they use along with diet, music, art, and movement to make people well.I first read about it in the East-West journal magazine back in the 80's. It increases the immune system activity for one thing. You do need a Rx, but alot of alternative physicians are using it as one weapon against cancer. The name of the clinic was Lukas Klinik in Arlsheim, Switzerland. I've looked it up on the internet before on a search engine......Judy Hoffman PS this is just my guess but I think it's best used once the cancer treatment is done and no cancer is present and you are trying to keep from having a relapse altho it has helped stage 4 patients long with other treatments. mistletoe has anyone heard of european mistletoe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Hi... I have taken this medication since 88 for breast cancer. It's a great one. I had 10 years with no problems which I attribute to it. It's called Iscadore.It is an injection you give yourself on a certain schedule. There are various strengths that come in little vials. According to what kind of cancer you have determines what tree the mistletoe comes from...for breast cancer it's the apple tree. In 98 my cancer came back I believe due to maximum stress that went on in my life for two or three years...I was not religiously taking the Iscadore during those times nor was I careful with my diet...I was too depressed,etc. anyhow I have a stronger Rx from switzerland and I'm back on it with chemo and it remains to be seen how I'm going to do at this point......but Iscadore is wonderful....no bad effects. I went to Switzerland to the clinic where they produce it in the early 90's and it was a wonderful holistic place...Iscadore is the only medicine they use along with diet, music, art, and movement to make people well.I first read about it in the East-West journal magazine back in the 80's. It increases the immune system activity for one thing. You do need a Rx, but alot of alternative physicians are using it as one weapon against cancer. The name of the clinic was Lukas Klinik in Arlsheim, Switzerland. I've looked it up on the internet before on a search engine......Judy Hoffman PS this is just my guess but I think it's best used once the cancer treatment is done and no cancer is present and you are trying to keep from having a relapse altho it has helped stage 4 patients long with other treatments. mistletoe has anyone heard of european mistletoe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 In a message dated 2/26/03 9:50:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, judehoff@... writes: > Weeleda pharmacys carry it but I get mine directly from Lukas Klinik in > switzerland.. Do you know anyone in NY State or NJ possibly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 In a message dated 2/26/03 9:50:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, judehoff@... writes: > Weeleda pharmacys carry it but I get mine directly from Lukas Klinik in > switzerland.. Do you know anyone in NY State or NJ possibly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 In a message dated 2/26/03 2:12:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, judehoff@... writes: > One Dr. I remember was from NY his name was Adkins. He is the same dr who > wrote years ago about the high protein diet.I can't remember his first > name.Wish my memory was better...maybe someone on this list knows the book > I mean. Judy > Atkins. There is a doctor in Westchester County NY that is from some group..a society of German origin that does the Mistletoe but I can't recall his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 In a message dated 2/26/03 2:12:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, judehoff@... writes: > One Dr. I remember was from NY his name was Adkins. He is the same dr who > wrote years ago about the high protein diet.I can't remember his first > name.Wish my memory was better...maybe someone on this list knows the book > I mean. Judy > Atkins. There is a doctor in Westchester County NY that is from some group..a society of German origin that does the Mistletoe but I can't recall his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Hi... a doctor would have to determine what kind you'd need and write you a Rx. Only alternative Dr.s would know about it's use. Weeleda pharmacys carry it but I get mine directly from Lukas Klinik in switzerland.. Re: mistletoe In a message dated 2/26/03 6:59:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, judehoff@... writes: > I have taken this medication since 88 for breast cancer. It's a great one. Hi, Can you tell me where you get it and how to determine the exact kind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Hi... a doctor would have to determine what kind you'd need and write you a Rx. Only alternative Dr.s would know about it's use. Weeleda pharmacys carry it but I get mine directly from Lukas Klinik in switzerland.. Re: mistletoe In a message dated 2/26/03 6:59:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, judehoff@... writes: > I have taken this medication since 88 for breast cancer. It's a great one. Hi, Can you tell me where you get it and how to determine the exact kind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Hi I'm sure there are some...you need the book written by Goldberg...I can't think of the title but it is on alternative treatments for cancer. The book lists about 25 physicians across the US who treat cancer using alternative means and many of them included Iscadore in their protocols. One Dr. I remember was from NY his name was Adkins. He is the same dr who wrote years ago about the high protein diet.I can't remember his first name.Wish my memory was better...maybe someone on this list knows the book I mean. Judy Re: mistletoe In a message dated 2/26/03 9:50:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, judehoff@... writes: > Weeleda pharmacys carry it but I get mine directly from Lukas Klinik in > switzerland.. Do you know anyone in NY State or NJ possibly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Hi I'm sure there are some...you need the book written by Goldberg...I can't think of the title but it is on alternative treatments for cancer. The book lists about 25 physicians across the US who treat cancer using alternative means and many of them included Iscadore in their protocols. One Dr. I remember was from NY his name was Adkins. He is the same dr who wrote years ago about the high protein diet.I can't remember his first name.Wish my memory was better...maybe someone on this list knows the book I mean. Judy Re: mistletoe In a message dated 2/26/03 9:50:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, judehoff@... writes: > Weeleda pharmacys carry it but I get mine directly from Lukas Klinik in > switzerland.. Do you know anyone in NY State or NJ possibly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Do you mean C. Atkins, M.D.? Bev. C. Re: mistletoe > > > In a message dated 2/26/03 9:50:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, > judehoff@... writes: > > > > Weeleda pharmacys carry it but I get mine directly from Lukas Klinik in > > switzerland.. > > Do you know anyone in NY State or NJ possibly? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Do you mean C. Atkins, M.D.? Bev. C. Re: mistletoe > > > In a message dated 2/26/03 9:50:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, > judehoff@... writes: > > > > Weeleda pharmacys carry it but I get mine directly from Lukas Klinik in > > switzerland.. > > Do you know anyone in NY State or NJ possibly? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 From: rickmuenzer <r.muenzer@...> > mistle/mistle toe...it is a highly toxic substance Not by ordinary standards of " highly toxic " , unless what is meant is " highly toxic " to cancer cells. > it may have some effect It definitely has a substantial healing effect in a large portion of cancer patients. > but still does not deal with the causes of failed immune system > and energies. I imagine that's true, aside from its immunomodulating and immune-enhancing effects. However, the same could be said about a large portion of cancer-healing herbs and most other alt. cancer therapies (not to mention surgery). > I believe it comes from the backward thinking of trying to kill > cancer Is the use of any treatments that involve directly killing cancer cells " backward thinking " (even if combined w/efforts to " empower and re energise our bodys to naturally kill diseases " ), regardless of their effectiveness or success rates in producing long-term remissions? > It is extremely dificult to think of letting our bodys kill > off diseases naturally because of many decades of brainwahings by the > 'backwards' school of so called medicine. Absolutely. Also because this approach is inadequate for a large portion of cancer patients (even if their cancer's caught early and even if they're willing and able to make a radical change of lifestyle and diet). Incidentally, I've read that mistletoe (in addition to directly killing cancer cells) is an immunomodulator, that it enhances immune function, inhibits metastasis, promotes apoptosis & differentiation, and reduces pain. Almost all patients reportedly tolerate it well ( Rau, M.D., 2003), though there are exceptions and contraindications, and it's still best to take it under the advice & supervision of a practitioner. It's used by many of the most " holistic " cancer practitioners around the world. For more info on mistletoe, see http://hoxsey.tripod.com http://commonweal.org/herbs.html www4.gratisweb.com/pabluster/subcut.html www.annieappleseedproject.org/conviewofalt.html www.cancure.org/iscador_mistletoe.htm www.iscador.com www.lukasklinik.ch/English/Default1.htm www.suzannesomers.com/Products/tapes/Iscadorpoints.htm www.mdanderson.org/departments/CIMER/display.cfm?id=BF40CCFF-ED6B-11D4-810200508 B603A14 & method=displayFull & pn=6EB86A59-EBD9-11D4-810100508B603A14 http://paam.net/articles.htm http://usa.weleda.com/medicine/cancer_therapy.asp www.iscardor.com (800-289-1969) http://oncology.medscape.com/reuters/prof/2001/04/04.05/20010404clin002.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 From: rickmuenzer <r.muenzer@...> > mistle/mistle toe...it is a highly toxic substance Not by ordinary standards of " highly toxic " , unless what is meant is " highly toxic " to cancer cells. > it may have some effect It definitely has a substantial healing effect in a large portion of cancer patients. > but still does not deal with the causes of failed immune system > and energies. I imagine that's true, aside from its immunomodulating and immune-enhancing effects. However, the same could be said about a large portion of cancer-healing herbs and most other alt. cancer therapies (not to mention surgery). > I believe it comes from the backward thinking of trying to kill > cancer Is the use of any treatments that involve directly killing cancer cells " backward thinking " (even if combined w/efforts to " empower and re energise our bodys to naturally kill diseases " ), regardless of their effectiveness or success rates in producing long-term remissions? > It is extremely dificult to think of letting our bodys kill > off diseases naturally because of many decades of brainwahings by the > 'backwards' school of so called medicine. Absolutely. Also because this approach is inadequate for a large portion of cancer patients (even if their cancer's caught early and even if they're willing and able to make a radical change of lifestyle and diet). Incidentally, I've read that mistletoe (in addition to directly killing cancer cells) is an immunomodulator, that it enhances immune function, inhibits metastasis, promotes apoptosis & differentiation, and reduces pain. Almost all patients reportedly tolerate it well ( Rau, M.D., 2003), though there are exceptions and contraindications, and it's still best to take it under the advice & supervision of a practitioner. It's used by many of the most " holistic " cancer practitioners around the world. For more info on mistletoe, see http://hoxsey.tripod.com http://commonweal.org/herbs.html www4.gratisweb.com/pabluster/subcut.html www.annieappleseedproject.org/conviewofalt.html www.cancure.org/iscador_mistletoe.htm www.iscador.com www.lukasklinik.ch/English/Default1.htm www.suzannesomers.com/Products/tapes/Iscadorpoints.htm www.mdanderson.org/departments/CIMER/display.cfm?id=BF40CCFF-ED6B-11D4-810200508 B603A14 & method=displayFull & pn=6EB86A59-EBD9-11D4-810100508B603A14 http://paam.net/articles.htm http://usa.weleda.com/medicine/cancer_therapy.asp www.iscardor.com (800-289-1969) http://oncology.medscape.com/reuters/prof/2001/04/04.05/20010404clin002.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 I am wondering how I would get Mistletoe (Iscador or...). I don't know much about the actual getting my hands on it or taking it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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