Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 714-X Dr.Dr.s : This will be a short one. On the " cancer cure " discussion group ( ) this evening, there were three people asking about help for prostate cancer, and two, just about cancer. I wanted to refer them to the Gaston's714-X , but I would also like to refer them to the success your Son had with the treatment, but I wouldn't do it without your permission. I wouldn't have to mention your name. Perhaps you might like to tell the group yourself ? Incidently, in reading about someone who used 714-X, they also used Essiac ( I prefer Flor Essence ). Perhaps my memory is slipping a bit, Dr.s, but I just cannot recall what it was that I replied to, that resulted in your first correspondence with me. Was it an e-mail you had sent to the " cures for cancer " , discussion group ? Anway, it is dreadful thing for people to realize that they have cancer. For all that I have read over some time, I do not see a long time remission of cancer with the orthodox treatment. For myself I would never go for radiation or chemo. When a very good friend of mine ( about 75 ) found out he had prostate, I did help him get started on Flor Essence, and a supplement regime. I was able to find a big bottle of B17, which was left unused after an elderly Lady, I knew well, passed away.She lived with bone cancer for over twenty years, but you wouldn't know she had cancer, and among others good things she was also taking B17, prescribed from a clinic in Mexico. I understand that her death was not from the cancer. My friend went on carrot juice as well as a good supplement regime, and changed his diet completely. He is alive and well now for at least 8 years, but with a very high PSA and an obvious tumour on the prostate. Dr., in New York, treats cancer with a good degree of success, so I understand. He uses pancreatic enzymes, and a supplemental regime,etc. Some patients he has treated appear very healthy, with no obvious cancer, but they still have a tumour. Some patients get concerned even though they feel fine, but they go to another Doctor who suggests that they should have the tumour removed. They do so, and it is found out that the tumor no longer contains any cancer cells, but is just a fibroid mass. Dr followed the pancreatic enzyme theory based on the research of a Dr. Beard who presented a paper on this to a British Journal, toward the end of the 1800s. This was picked up years later, by a Dentist, Dr. , who cured himself of cancer with pancreatic enzymes, after some experimentation. Then he treated other cancer patients, with a good degree of success. My Father-in-law, was in his early 80's when it was learned that he had prostate cancer. The first Doctor suggested he should just do nothing, but this same Doctor suggested he might go for another opinion to another Doctor. This second doctor recommended radiation. The subsequent radiation destroyed his ureters, which called for replacement with plastic ureters. They came out, and had to be put in again. This all resulted in tubes to drain the kidneys. He went through hell ( if you will please pardon the expression ), and much pain from that exercise alone. He eventually died without getting any relief, with his death certificate stating " death from kidney failure " . Of course, I am not attempting to say that all radiation ends up like that. Well, Dr.s, I am sorry I got carried away again. If you haven't heard of Dr. Beard I can relate the story, and give you more information on that, if you wish. It is very interesting. Good night and with Best wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I'm considering using 714-X for blocked lymphatics/nodes due to non-hodgkins lymphoma. I was wondering if anyone has had success with 714-X and if they could provide any details/information ? thank you steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 What is 714-X? In a message dated 10/11/2009 1:51:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, vgammill@... writes: Hubert, Most oncologists are not stupid. What else is she going to say if you present her with a meaty little piece of evidence that her whole career might be for naught. You laid out a plan for yourself that you determined would make more sense than the conventional plan. Your result was one that you hoped for and anticipated. It came to pass. This is not coincidence. In conventional treatments of metastatic cancer the expected end result of therapy is death. You could ask her if this is unfortunate coincidence or if it is planned for and determined. At 10:01 AM 10/11/2009, you wrote: > >I have used 714X for a non-Hodgkin lymphoma in >2002 with total success. It was a third >reocurence of the cancer and the oncologist was >proposing a still experimental stem cell therapy >which I considered very dangerous so I asked if >I could wait six month to go for their therapy >and tried 714X and six month later a scan showed >no abnormal lymphnodes anymore. I told my >oncologist that I only did two things different >than usual: used 714X and started meditation. So >one or the other or the combination of the two >put me into remission. She answered that it was just a coincidence. LOL >I am still in remission and I don't think that >it is 100% gone but I use different method to >keep it under control & shy;: a lot of antioxydant >from different sources like acaï, curcuma, >chocolate, juicing of vegetables and I also eat >raw food as much as possible. It seems to work so far. >Hubert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 I have used 714X for a non-Hodgkin lymphoma in 2002 with total success. It was a third reocurence of the cancer and the oncologist was proposing a still experimental stem cell therapy which I considered very dangerous so I asked if I could wait six month to go for their therapy and tried 714X and six month later a scan showed no abnormal lymphnodes anymore. I told my oncologist that I only did two things different than usual: used 714X and started meditation. So one or the other or the combination of the two put me into remission. She answered that it was just a coincidence. LOL I am still in remission and I don't think that it is 100% gone but I use different method to keep it under control: a lot of antioxydant from different sources like acaï, curcuma, chocolate, juicing of vegetables and I also eat raw food as much as possible. It seems to work so far. Hubert > > I'm considering using 714-X for blocked lymphatics/nodes due to non-hodgkins lymphoma. I was wondering if anyone has had success with 714-X and if they could provide any details/information ? > > thank you > > steve > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Hubert, Congratulations on your success! I added your message to our files. We have a folder of testimonials. Other members might want to take a look at that folder to see how some of the people in this list have overcome or controlled cancer. /files/ Moderator CancerCured Group " hubert_rochon " <harosurlebaudet@...> wrote: > > I have used 714X for a non-Hodgkin lymphoma in 2002 with total success. It was a third reocurence of the cancer and the oncologist was proposing a still experimental stem cell therapy which I considered very dangerous so I asked if I could wait six month to go for their therapy and tried 714X and six month later a scan showed no abnormal lymphnodes anymore. I told my oncologist that I only did two things different than usual: used 714X and started meditation. So one or the other or the combination of the two put me into remission. She answered that it was just a coincidence. LOL > I am still in remission and I don't think that it is 100% gone but I use different method to keep it under control: a lot of antioxydant from different sources like acaï, curcuma, chocolate, juicing of vegetables and I also eat raw food as much as possible. It seems to work so far. Hubert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Hubert, Most oncologists are not stupid. What else is she going to say if you present her with a meaty little piece of evidence that her whole career might be for naught. You laid out a plan for yourself that you determined would make more sense than the conventional plan. Your result was one that you hoped for and anticipated. It came to pass. This is not coincidence. In conventional treatments of metastatic cancer the expected end result of therapy is death. You could ask her if this is unfortunate coincidence or if it is planned for and determined. At 10:01 AM 10/11/2009, you wrote: > >I have used 714X for a non-Hodgkin lymphoma in >2002 with total success. It was a third >reocurence of the cancer and the oncologist was >proposing a still experimental stem cell therapy >which I considered very dangerous so I asked if >I could wait six month to go for their therapy >and tried 714X and six month later a scan showed >no abnormal lymphnodes anymore. I told my >oncologist that I only did two things different >than usual: used 714X and started meditation. So >one or the other or the combination of the two >put me into remission. She answered that it was just a coincidence. LOL >I am still in remission and I don't think that >it is 100% gone but I use different method to >keep it under control: a lot of antioxydant >from different sources like acaï, curcuma, >chocolate, juicing of vegetables and I also eat >raw food as much as possible. It seems to work so far. >Hubert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Dr. Gaston Naessens originaly from europe, Belgium I believe, and who is now living in Sherbrooke Quebec, came up with this non toxic compound which he called 714X (because he was born on the 14th of July). He is now 85 years old. This formula has to be injected intralymphatically, a type of injection you can learn to do yourself. There is a book on his life and research but I don't have the info immediately in mind. He also invented a microscope better than an electron microscope and the research he did with it lead him to discover 714X. I just answer quickly from the top of my head but I could find some further documentation if it wasn't lost in my previous computer crash. Hubert [Moderator note: Outline of the story of Dr. Naessens. Scroll half way down this linked page for an explanation of 714X] http://www.encognitive.com/node/4246 jpking@... wrote: > > What is 714-X? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Hubert Congratulations (ok a little past due) on your success, and thank you for posting this. Could you tell us what type of lymphoma it was and how many cycles of 714-X you did ? I'm assuming you had enlarged lymph nodes prior to 714-X and now they have regressed. I understand that if you have any in the neck, you have to do the nebulizer form of the treatment in addition to the lymphatic injections. Was this situation for you ? regards, steve > > I have used 714X for a non-Hodgkin lymphoma in 2002 with total success. It was a third reocurence of the cancer and the oncologist was proposing a still experimental stem cell therapy which I considered very dangerous so I asked if I could wait six month to go for their therapy and tried 714X and six month later a scan showed no abnormal lymphnodes anymore. I told my oncologist that I only did two things different than usual: used 714X and started meditation. So one or the other or the combination of the two put me into remission. She answered that it was just a coincidence. LOL > I am still in remission and I don't think that it is 100% gone but I use different method to keep it under control: a lot of antioxydant from different sources like acaï, curcuma, chocolate, juicing of vegetables and I also eat raw food as much as possible. It seems to work so far. > Hubert > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Thank you steve, just lucky I heard of Dr. Naessens. It was a non-Hodgkin lymphoma and to tell you the truth I didn't pay attention to the further details. I know there are several type within non-Hodgkin but I don't remember what was mine. I think it was B cells. I had enlarged lymph nodes mostly under the pancreas and a little all over but not in the neck and/or head. I didn't have to use the nebulizer. I can't remember what they called " cycle " for 714X. What I remember is that I used it regularly for six months which means one injection a day so I suppose 180 or so injections. All enlarged lymph nodes were showing at 1 cm or less on the ct scan at the end of this period which is considered normal. But the scan can not determine if there are any cancerous cells remaining, just that the nodes are normal in size. I never felt 100% well after, I must say, but I never had symptoms justifying another scan so it seems under control. It's already 7 years ago. I did look for a forum to share my experience at the time but didn't find any. I am glad to be able to share and give hope to some. From what I read 714X works best for lymphomas and a few other cancers that I wouldn't mention here without verifying. But for sure it works for lymphomas. And to think that Health Canada is trying to ban it instead of studying it. Evidence to support the efficacy of 714X has not been published in any available peer-reviewed, scientific journals, the reason being that the clinical studies conducted by some reputed pharmaceutical company at the command of Dr. Naessens were interupted probably because they saw that it would be conclusive and wouldn't profit from it. Dr. Naessens sued them for breach of contract and I think he settled out of court but the studies were never done again for lack of funds. glad to be of help, Hubert > > Hubert > > Congratulations (ok a little past due) on your success, and thank you for posting this. Could you tell us what type of lymphoma it was and how many cycles of 714-X you did ? I'm assuming you had enlarged lymph nodes prior to 714-X and now they have regressed. I understand that if you have any in the neck, you have to do the nebulizer form of the treatment in addition to the lymphatic injections. Was this situation for you ? > > regards, steve > > > > > > I have used 714X for a non-Hodgkin lymphoma in 2002 with total success. It was a third reocurence of the cancer and the oncologist was proposing a still experimental stem cell therapy which I considered very dangerous so I asked if I could wait six month to go for their therapy and tried 714X and six month later a scan showed no abnormal lymphnodes anymore. I told my oncologist that I only did two things different than usual: used 714X and started meditation. So one or the other or the combination of the two put me into remission. She answered that it was just a coincidence. LOL > > I am still in remission and I don't think that it is 100% gone but I use different method to keep it under control: a lot of antioxydant from different sources like acaï, curcuma, chocolate, juicing of vegetables and I also eat raw food as much as possible. It seems to work so far. > > Hubert > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 (Moderator's note: trimmed post to exclude long string of replies. Please remember to trim your posts. Thanks.) Just out of curiosity, Ralph Moss wrote: " as far as 714x goes, I have no doubt that injecting a camphor product into the body and presumably into the lymphatic system will have some kind of profound effect, positive or negative. Iknow it certainly seems to tune up the immune system and has a psychological effect as well.But I have never seen any clear demonstration of any anti cancer effect (.........) " karla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Not ringing any bells with me, sorry. Have you tried doing a web search? Marcia on in Salem, massachusetts On Feb 7, 2011, at 1:30 PM, cancfs wrote: > Hello, > > A friend of mine just talked to me about a product called 714-X. > > Has anyone heard of this or used it? > > Yannick > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Sounds a little far fetched.......Somatids??? 714-X was developed by Gaston Naessens, a native of France who has lived and worked in Quebec since the early 1970s. The name " 714-X " was chosen by Naessens to symbolize his initials (the 7th and 14th letters of the alphabet) and the year of his birth (1924, as X is the 24th letter).[2] The marketers claim that 714-X works by counteracting the harm done by " somatids " , a fictional life form which is not bacterial, viral or fungal, but which instead belongs to a distinct domain unknown to modern science and medicine.[3] > > Hello, > > A friend of mine just talked to me about a product called 714-X. > > Has anyone heard of this or used it? > > Yannick > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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