Re: Chemo clinic - my thoughts

[Guest guest]

ina,

This has been my experience as well. I spend a lot of time with women who are

going through chemo and visited friends in the chemo room. Not only do they

look great, they feel pretty good, too.

Chemo can have some serious side effects, and that should not be forgotten. But

most of my friends have worked through chemo, continued to care for their

children through chemo, gotten new jobs while on chemo, etc. A friend down the

street told me that though she is tired after her infusion, she has actually

never felt better.

ar

>

> Hello,

> Just thought I would throw this out there.

>

> When visiting the chemo clinic - I noticed a lot of the people looked really

healthy. I was shocked to see some people looking in perfect health getting

chemo.

>

> If you put some of them in a crowd (line-up) - along with people from the

street - the people getting the chemo actually would win out as looking better.

>

> This totally shocked me. One guy looked so healthy, handsome and fit - I was

shocked to see him getting chemo. He could have posed for the cover of a men's

magazine.

>

> This just took me by surprise to see these people getting chemo - and some I

talked to were getting it for over 12 visits - and still looked totally heathly.

>

> Thoughts - comments?

>

[Guest guest]

From: arlynsg

Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:51 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Chemo clinic - my thoughts

Let us throw another thought out there. Looking " good " while on Chemo means

little as regards changing the poor statistics regarding survivability. For one

thing we don't know what chemo is being put into their bodies and , what does

this have to do with anything?

Right now my neighbor, on his third round of chemotherapy would not be the guy

to ask about how he feels. Looking at him doesn't reveal too much but ask him

and you will get a different answer. Within days after his treatments he is

dragging around like he's half dead.

Allow me to also throw out this report from the Australian Report that barely

made it into American circles and only on the Internet:

http://www.cancerdecisions.com/index2.php?option=com_content & do_pdf=1 & id=332

I used this from Ralph Moss only because it is concise and does not include the

very technical parts of the full report which one can find online. Here is the

bottom line and people can 'boost' the use of Chemotherapy all they

want......the facts are The War on Cancer is generally speaking, a failure and

if it wasn't, this list and other Alternative information would be long gone.

here's the bottom paragraph of the report the above link takes one to:

" However, despite the early claims of chemotherapy as the panacea for curing all

cancers, the impact of cytotoxic chemotherapy is limited to small subgroups of

patients and mostly occurs in the less common malignancies. " ---

To be sure, himself as convinced me that there are times when quick

intervention is needed in order to buy time but that does not give an

endorsement to the wholesale push for Chemotherapy with people lined up all

around a room....... " looking good " .

Within a few days of chemotherapy, I'd wager that a lot of these people don't

look quite as good because most of them suffer days after getting their

treatment. Treatments are often spaced apart so that one recovers from the

very toxic mix being pumped into their bodies.

Never forget, the very reason Chemotherapy is supposed to work is because IT IS

TOXIC.

Joe C.

, " ina " <leepaulina@...> wrote:

>

> Hello,

> Just thought I would throw this out there.

>

> When visiting the chemo clinic - I noticed a lot of the people looked really

healthy. I was shocked to see some people looking in perfect health getting

chemo.

>

> If you put some of them in a crowd (line-up) - along with people from the

street - the people getting the chemo actually would win out as looking better.

>

> This totally shocked me. One guy looked so healthy, handsome and fit - I was

shocked to see him getting chemo. He could have posed for the cover of a men's

magazine.

>

> This just took me by surprise to see these people getting chemo - and some I

talked to were getting it for over 12 visits - and still looked totally heathly.

>

> Thoughts - comments?

>

[Guest guest]

My thought on Chemotherapy is from my own treatment. I received 14 treatments

and was very very sick. After each treatment my nerves were getting worse with

tingling in the fingers and feet. I was extremely cold after treatment and was

weak. I still have permanent nerve damage from the platinum in the toxic

cocktail. Hard to say what other adverse or long term effects it has had.

I would not do it over again. Hopefully I will never get Cancer again.

Al

________________________________

From: JoeCastron <jcastron1@...>

Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010

Let us throw another thought out there. Looking " good " while on Chemo means

little as regards changing the poor statistics regarding survivability. For one

thing we don't know what chemo is being put into their bodies and , what does

this have to do with anything?

Right now my neighbor, on his third round of chemotherapy would not be the guy

to ask about how he feels. Looking at him doesn't reveal too much but ask him

and you will get a different answer. Within days after his treatments he is

dragging around like he's half dead.

Allow me to also throw out this report from the Australian Report that barely

made it into American circles and only on the Internet:

http://www.cancerdecisions.com/index2.php?option=com_content & do_pdf=1 & id=332

I used this from Ralph Moss only because it is concise and does not include the

very technical parts of the full report which one can find online. Here is the

bottom line and people can 'boost' the use of Chemotherapy all they

want......the facts are The War on Cancer is generally speaking, a failure and

if it wasn't, this list and other Alternative information would be long gone.

here's the bottom paragraph of the report the above link takes one to:

" However, despite the early claims of chemotherapy as the panacea for curing all

cancers, the impact of cytotoxic chemotherapy is limited to small subgroups of

patients and mostly occurs in the less common malignancies. " ---

To be sure, himself as convinced me that there are times when quick

intervention is needed in order to buy time but that does not give an

endorsement to the wholesale push for Chemotherapy with people lined up all

around a room....... " looking good " .

Within a few days of chemotherapy, I'd wager that a lot of these people don't

look quite as good because most of them suffer days after getting their

treatment. Treatments are often spaced apart so that one recovers from the

very toxic mix being pumped into their bodies.

Never forget, the very reason Chemotherapy is supposed to work is because IT IS

TOXIC.

Joe C.

, " ina " <leepaulina@...> wrote:

> Hello,

> Just thought I would throw this out there.

> When visiting the chemo clinic - I noticed a lot of the people looked really

healthy. I was shocked to see some people looking in perfect health getting

chemo......

>

[Guest guest]

The word chemo by itself tells you a lot of things. Chemo = chemicals that

they inject into our body. Why do you think most of the people die after

some time past.

Chemotherapy supposed to treat cancer. Even if they kill cancerous cells

meanwhile they kill all the good cells you have left in your body. That is

the reason most of the time it spreads more after chemotherapy or you

develop second cancer.

When our friend was diagnosed with colon cancer he went to chemotherapy.

Doctors told him he will be as new as young. He was feeling terrible after

chemotherapy. He was not in himself, he was like pig wanted to sleep all

the time. He could not work while he was under chemo. And few month after

chemotherapy when he went to check up they found cancer in his liver. And

another chemotherapy treatment was needed. After second chemotherapy the

doctors told him that his cancer has shrunk a lot. But few month later they

found out that it got bigger and bigger than ever was. So it grew bigger.

And now they have to cut his liver to get the cancer out.

So where is the benefit of chemotherapy? It is supposed to cure not to kill.

And that is exactly what chemo does. It kills all the good things you have

left.

Chemo is BS...

We can prevent all the bad sicknesses with right, healthy food. Eat right

and exercise and never get sick. You are what you eat. We have to stick with

healthy food.

[Guest guest]

Yes, the article you linked is interesting.

taxanes and anthracyclines are some of the most toxic chemo's out there, even my

cancer doctor told me she would never give these drugs out.

My sister-in-law who is a nurse also saw people that were using natural

treatments that died in her care...because they were too far gone.....using

useless treatments.

It is very difficult to know what to do....once in a situation...while we all

long and search for a magic bullet....to date...I don't think there is any.

While we read about these cures whatever they may be...natural or standard

western.....the question does arrise....is it really all about making money?

[Guest guest]

>

> We can prevent all the bad sicknesses with right, healthy food. Eat right

> and exercise and never get sick. You are what you eat. We have to stick with

> healthy food.

Konul,

The above is an incorrect statement. Right, healthy foods, and exercise will

not protect everyone, nor will it prevent you from ever getting sick.

It takes a lot more in today's world than eating right and exercising.

However, it certainly will help your body to fend for itself better.

Six years as a raw food vegetarian, exercising, living a relaxed life in the

sunshine. Then I was diagnosed with cancer. It happens.

ar

[Guest guest]

Hi ina,

I agree. Much of it could be just about money. And alternative medicine

doesn't always work, either. A person needs time or the guidance of someone

very knowledgable in order to gain the time for alternatives to work.

I wish, however, that alternatives were spoken about by doctors in a favorable

manner. If only to allow patients to decide what treatment route they wanted to

go. My friends believe that chemo was their only choice, but we know that

wasn't true.

ar

>

> Yes, the article you linked is interesting.

> taxanes and anthracyclines are some of the most toxic chemo's out there, even

my cancer doctor told me she would never give these drugs out.

>

> My sister-in-law who is a nurse also saw people that were using natural

treatments that died in her care...because they were too far gone.....using

useless treatments.

>

> It is very difficult to know what to do....once in a situation...while we all

long and search for a magic bullet....to date...I don't think there is any.

>

> While we read about these cures whatever they may be...natural or standard

western.....the question does arrise....is it really all about making money?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ina,

 

Sadly it always seems to be about money whether allopathic chemo or alternative

medicines. Of course, pharma companies are in existence to make profits. But

many alternative practitioners using alternative means do the same: Laetrile

clinics in Mexico. Shark cartilage that doesn't work.

 

I had Stage four lymphoma fractuing my hip and pelvis in '91. Beat it, then it

relapsed three times over the next six years--had two bone marrow transplants.

In between relapses I used Essiac, astragalus and ginseng. It still came back.

 

What really helped me was practicing qigong, Chinese energy exercises. I was

fanatical about it. It really made me strong so I could hang in there until

someone figured out a cure. Once my oncologist told me don't stop doing qigong

because no doctors could figure out why I was still alive--and why the lymphoma

hadn't returned a fifth time. Of course, put her on the spot and she would roll

her eyes at the internal energy paradigm, chi. The concept of " vitalism, "

electrical energy in the body (outside the brain, nervous system and heart, that

is) was rejected and discredited by Western doctors a century ago.

 

But I practice qigong for an hour every morning and I've been clear of cancer

for 14 years. I can't prove that it helps on a medical chart, but Western

researchers are no looking into it and how it affects the immune system.

 

Who knows?

 

Bob Ellal

From: arlynsg <arlynsg@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Chemo clinic - my thoughts

Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 1:49 PM

 

Hi ina,

I agree. Much of it could be just about money. And alternative medicine doesn't

always work, either. A person needs time or the guidance of someone very

knowledgable in order to gain the time for alternatives to work.

I wish, however, that alternatives were spoken about by doctors in a favorable

manner. If only to allow patients to decide what treatment route they wanted to

go. My friends believe that chemo was their only choice, but we know that wasn't

true.

ar

>

> Yes, the article you linked is interesting.

> taxanes and anthracyclines are some of the most toxic chemo's out there, even

my cancer doctor told me she would never give these drugs out.

>

> My sister-in-law who is a nurse also saw people that were using natural

treatments that died in her care...because they were too far gone.....using

useless treatments.

>

> It is very difficult to know what to do....once in a situation...while we all

long and search for a magic bullet....to date...I don't think there is any.

>

> While we read about these cures whatever they may be...natural or standard

western.....the question does arrise....is it really all about making money?

>

[Guest guest]

> But I practice qigong for an hour every morning and I've been clear of cancer

for 14 years. I can't prove that it helps on a medical chart, but Western

researchers are no looking into it and how it affects the immune system.

> Who knows?

 

> Bob Ellal

Bob, that is so wonderful. Some things just can't be quantified with numbers

and science. Keep doing what you're doing.

ar

[Guest guest]

Maybe its the type of drugs used, there are SO many; or the type of cancer being

treated. But also, with my recent experience, I'm finding that different

clinics/doctors/nurses also administer it in different ways that can have a huge

impact on your experience.

I still get chills when I think back to the fact that I actually DID chemo a

week ago, because that's something that I've been against nearly my entire life

of 40+ years. But I did not get sick during or after. My nurses administered

plenty of anti-nausea meds prior to starting and while I don't know if it as

JUST that, I'm also aware that not everybody gets sick or loses hair. I could

just be on the smaller percentage of people that don't.

I'm also happy to report that only 9 days later, my tumor has shrunk at least

70% percent and I can breathe, eat, sleep - the response has been extraordinary.

I'm still not pro-chemo because I realize its such a complicated issue, but I

feel I would be doing others a disservice if I didn't share my experience, in

case someone else is faced with a life-threatening decision and is afraid to do

what's necessary because they've ONLY heard horribly negative things about

chemo.

I'm hoping that I will only need one more treatment and then be in remission. I

still have two more weeks and I am now walking, rebounding, and taking maitake,

which has an excellent record.

Detwa

> >

> > Hello,

> > Just thought I would throw this out there.

> >

> > When visiting the chemo clinic - I noticed a lot of the people looked really

healthy. I was shocked to see some people looking in perfect health getting

chemo.

> >

> > If you put some of them in a crowd (line-up) - along with people from the

street - the people getting the chemo actually would win out as looking better.

> >

> > This totally shocked me. One guy looked so healthy, handsome and fit - I

was shocked to see him getting chemo. He could have posed for the cover of a

men's magazine.

> >

> > This just took me by surprise to see these people getting chemo - and some I

talked to were getting it for over 12 visits - and still looked totally heathly.

> >

> > Thoughts - comments?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I agree, ar. I follow the blogs of other cancer patients with cancers similar

to mine, and they were lifelong vegans or otherwise " health nuts " and still

found themselves in this unfortunate situation. One, I posted her blog before,

she even consulted with a world famous doctor who assured her if she went

completely raw that she could overcome her disease. She tried very hard but

ended up in a situation like mine, being face with having to do emergency chemo.

Sadly, she has now not updated her blog since mid-July so I'm worried about her.

She posted about her first treatment and it was not good.

My mind has been changed greatly about a LOT of things that I've always believed

in. A LOT. In fact, the very core of my beliefs has been shaken.

I never believed in donating blood, for one. When the bloodmobile would come to

my job, I would proudly announce that I didn't trust them and they wouldn't be

touching me. Well, I had to have 7 pints of blood given to me while I was in

the hospital last week, I almost died without it, so now I feel pretty doggone

silly and can't wait until I can somehow return the blessing.

Honestly, the whole raw eating thing never made me feel good. I always felt

hungry and just.....not right. Not fulfilled. Now I cannot eat anything raw

because the bacteria could kill me - cooking food destroys bacteria. So I'm not

sure I'm ever going to get back on that bandwagon. I'll be vegetarian but not

raw. Just my opinion.

Detwa

> >

> > We can prevent all the bad sicknesses with right, healthy food. Eat right

> > and exercise and never get sick. You are what you eat. We have to stick with

> > healthy food.

>

>

> Konul,

>

> The above is an incorrect statement. Right, healthy foods, and exercise will

not protect everyone, nor will it prevent you from ever getting sick.

>

> It takes a lot more in today's world than eating right and exercising.

>

> However, it certainly will help your body to fend for itself better.

>

> Six years as a raw food vegetarian, exercising, living a relaxed life in the

sunshine. Then I was diagnosed with cancer. It happens.

>

> ar

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, they do look good for a short time and the ladies faces plump up and

wrinkles disappear (temporarily).  I watched three dear friends look great

for a few months and then they died--all three of them did chemo (2001-2002).

They were all in their early fifties.  Not one of them lasted beyond a year. I

suppose a few lucky ones stumble upon a great doc and can do the chemo route; I,

for one, will pray everyday for the courage and strength to refuse chemo and be

guided in continuing to use alternative medicine. So far I am very lucky and

sooooo grateful for every day.

Pattie

> From: ina <leepaulina@...>

> Subject: [ ] Chemo clinic - my thoughts

>

> Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 5:23 AM

> Hello,

> Just thought I would throw this out there.

>

> When visiting the chemo clinic - I noticed a lot of the

> people looked really healthy.  I was shocked to see

> some people looking in perfect health getting chemo.

>

> If you put some of them in a crowd (line-up) - along with

> people from the street - the people getting the chemo

> actually would win out as looking better.

>

> This totally shocked me.  One guy looked so healthy,

> handsome and fit - I was shocked to see him getting chemo.

> He could have posed for the cover of a men's magazine. 

>

>

> This just took me by surprise to see these people getting

> chemo - and some I talked to were getting it for over 12

> visits - and still looked totally heathly.

>

> Thoughts - comments?

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Pattie,

I'm so sorry for the loss of those wonderful women.

We've had a rash of " cancerversary " celebrations in the other group I belong to.

Lots of people hitting three, five, and eight years cancerfree.

I wish it could be the same for everyone.

ar

>

> Yes, they do look good for a short time and the ladies faces plump up and

wrinkles disappear (temporarily).  I watched three dear friends look great

> for a few months and then they died--all three of them did chemo (2001-2002).

They were all in their early fifties.  Not one of them lasted beyond a year. I

suppose a few lucky ones stumble upon a great doc and can do the chemo route; I,

for one, will pray everyday for the courage and strength to refuse chemo and be

guided in continuing to use alternative medicine. So far I am very lucky and

sooooo grateful for every day.

>

> Pattie

[Guest guest]

Hi Detwa,

With the breast cancer chemos, the women tend to lose their hair right around

the third week or so.

I'm very glad you are doing so well. 70% shrinkage is awesome.

I was like you. I turned away from western medicine many years ago when it

couldn't help me. I found great relief in alternative treatments. In 2001 when

I went raw food veg, I swore to everyone that as long as I eat this way, I would

never have to deal with cancer. I also told people that I would never do chemo

or radiation.

I ended up eating those words. It's like the universe is playing a trick on us.

I like to think that my experience was there to teach me to be more

compassionate, or to look at both sides of a situation, or something like that.

I did try to gently open your eyes to the potential of chemo because I was

really afraid for you. So, I am glad you found the strength to do what you

needed to do to stay alive. I've taken some heat in this group for being

open-minded about traditional treatments, but they have their place. My goal is

for people to live, I don't care if they use alternative means or traditional.

I sometimes feel ill thinking about the radiation I did for breast cancer. I

was radiated on my right side. In July, my ultrasound showed a new hotbed of

activity in my non-cancer breast. It's not cancer, but a pre, pre, pre cancer.

I know that it might not ever turn into cancer, so I am going to just watch it

for now. I would love to try some alternatives, but due to my lack of money,

I've had to stop taking pretty much all my anti-cancer supplements, including

the calcium d-glucarate that I love so much. But, at least I know enough to not

panic and fall victim to the cancer-wagon the doctors sometimes try to put us

on.

Keep healing!

ar

> I'm still not pro-chemo because I realize its such a complicated issue, but I

feel I would be doing others a disservice if I didn't share my experience, in

case someone else is faced with a life-threatening decision and is afraid to do

what's necessary because they've ONLY heard horribly negative things about

chemo.

[Guest guest]

Pattie:

You have said it as well as anyone, however, there are rare circumstances where

people are, for any number of reasons, beyond things like detoxing or using some

well-accepted Alternative protocols. Then they might....and I say, might

benefit from that rare situation using chemotherapy to stop the immediate

advance of the cancer but, to then institute the proper protocols to defeat it

or to use a popular phrase, to be in 'Sustained Remission'. Pattie, there are

a lot of people, and this is admitted by some Conventional sources, that are

surviving 'in spite of' not because of Chemotherapy and that many of these

people would have survived anyway. Then there are those that have met a more

rapid demise because of Chemotherapy which is also being found to actually cause

cancer or cancer spreading.

Joe C.

From: Pat Mc

Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:21 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Chemo clinic - my thoughts

Yes, they do look good for a short time and the ladies faces plump up and

wrinkles disappear (temporarily). I watched three dear friends look great

for a few months and then they died--all three of them did chemo (2001-2002).

They were all in their early fifties. Not one of them lasted beyond a year. I

suppose a few lucky ones stumble upon a great doc and can do the chemo route; I,

for one, will pray everyday for the courage and strength to refuse chemo and be

guided in continuing to use alternative medicine. So far I am very lucky and

sooooo grateful for every day.

Pattie

> From: ina <leepaulina@...>

> Subject: [ ] Chemo clinic - my thoughts

>

> Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 5:23 AM

> Hello,

> Just thought I would throw this out there.

>

> When visiting the chemo clinic - I noticed a lot of the

> people looked really healthy. I was shocked to see

> some people looking in perfect health getting chemo.

>

> If you put some of them in a crowd (line-up) - along with

> people from the street - the people getting the chemo

> actually would win out as looking better.

>

> This totally shocked me. One guy looked so healthy,

> handsome and fit - I was shocked to see him getting chemo.

> He could have posed for the cover of a men's magazine.

>

>

> This just took me by surprise to see these people getting

> chemo - and some I talked to were getting it for over 12

> visits - and still looked totally heathly.

>

> Thoughts - comments?

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

It is difficult to negatively comment upon one's seemingly good experience.

However, since this is an Alternative Cancer site, designed to further

Alternative practices so we do need to give additional factual information.

Other sites have been mentioned that favor Conventional medicine and they would

have it no other way. The LDN site is heavily into Conventional Treatments.

One cannot judge success with 'disease-free' periods of time. I'll take three,

five, eight or more in a state of remission but the facts are, we do not know

whether or not these people are cancer free or that their survivability has

anything to do with chemotherapy any more than some claim the same by a diet

change. It is sheer arrogance on the part of the Cancer Industry to claim

'cancer free' when what they mean is, no discernable evidence of cancer exists.

Some professionals claim that cancer cells need to grow in size 50 times before

they might be discovered and some may not grow or multiply for many years with

or without treatment of any kind and in other cases, they are just missed.

They just do not know.

I make it a point to review study after study and when one does, they come to

the conclusion, things are not as 'rosy' as the picture being painted for

chemotherapy. These reports do not make it into main-stream media outlets but

are hidden away in PubMed reports by physicians and researchers. My previous

post absolutely endorsed Conventional Intervention when the situation is so

dire, there is little time left for a lengthy protocol.

For example, the body fights various infections or foreign substances using

swelling (inflammation). A bee sting on the tongue could cause a swelling that

may close off the air passage. No detox or amount of Pau d' Arco is going to

help............surgical intervention is quickly needed to open the air passage.

Nature doesn't always work in our favor.

We do have, however, the study that indicates only 2-3% of patients are helped

by Chemotherapy except for those more rare types of cancer that seem to respond

well.

Just a couple of years ago The Cancer Industry heralded a " reduction in deaths

due to cancer " and that reduction? About 600 people that one year.

They just don't know.

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

Clearly the whole raw food thing, especially a vegetarian diet, doesn't

appear to be the right way to achieve good health. Some foods are very

good raw, but many foods are not. Living primarily on a vegetarian diet

long term has serious adverse health effects.

One must look to traditional people who learnt how to prepare foods

properly over hundreds of thousands of years. Those cultures with

excellent health and very low cancer rates are the ones to learn from.

One man who studied many of these people around the world, was Dr Weston

A Price.

http://www.westonaprice.org/nutrition-greats/598-weston-price.html

>

> Honestly, the whole raw eating thing never made me feel good. I

always felt hungry and just.....not right. Not fulfilled. Now I cannot

eat anything raw because the bacteria could kill me - cooking food

destroys bacteria. So I'm not sure I'm ever going to get back on that

bandwagon. I'll be vegetarian but not raw. Just my opinion.

[Guest guest]

Dear Ar,

I would not agree with you. In my opinion healthy food is right choice.

From other side you are right because not knowing many things or reasons

about the case it is difficult to judge people. There are a lot of reasons

for people to get sick.

I myself was the witness of a close friend of mine. She went vegetarian and few

years later she got sick and weak. Because she got deficiency. I heard many

times that to be strictly vegetarian is no good.

I am not fanatic about food and I don't restrict myself for food that I want

to eat. I prefer to eat many things but include a lot of veggies and fruits

into my diet. It is not what you eat, it is also how you eat it. The way you

cook makes difference. We need variety of food. And exercise is one of the

best ways to stay healthy. You cannot go wrong with right things. But until

we know what is right it takes a lot time and reading and experience.

I like reading, doing my own researches and compare the opinions. I read and

make my choice. Within two years I have been changing many things in my diet

until I came to the right choice. No one is going to help me unless I help

myself. So be your own doctor.

I will be praying to God for your recovery and I am sure you are a strong

person. Strong people always win. Be well and healthy.

Christie

From: arlynsg

Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010

Konul Baltas wrote:

> " We can prevent all the bad sicknesses with right, healthy food. Eat right and

exercise and never get sick. You are what you eat. We have to stick with healthy

food. "

Konul,

The above is an incorrect statement. Right, healthy foods, and exercise will not

protect everyone, nor will it prevent you from ever getting sick. It takes a lot

more in today's world than eating right and exercising. However, it certainly

will help your body to fend for itself better. Six years as a raw food

vegetarian, exercising, living a relaxed life in the sunshine. Then I was

diagnosed with cancer. It happens.

ar

[Guest guest]

> I will be praying to God for your recovery and I am sure you are a strong

> person. Strong people always win. Be well and healthy.

>

> Christie

You, too, Christie. Thank you.

I worry quite a bit about deficiencies caused by diet. However, my biggest

problem are my food allergies - those are what cause my deficiencies. The raw

food diet cured me of all allergies for quite a few years. When I eased up on

my diet, the allergies started coming back. Now that I'm not as strict, they

are back in full force. My eating is very restricted due to the allergies. So,

actually, a vegetarian diet is the most healthful for me, though I do need to

keep rotating my foods constantly. It has gotten much worse due to my

restricted budget.

Best of luck to you.

ar

[Guest guest]

Christie,

You know I am thinking about the exercise thing - I did hardcord exercise 4 days

a weeks. I did the step class two times a week then did cardio the other two

days....the days I did not go to the gym I walked outside for over one hour.

Then I also ate a very healthy diet. People at work all called me the health

nut - and yet I had a very fast growing tumor develop. So, exercise did not

prevent cancer from finding me.

> > " We can prevent all the bad sicknesses with right, healthy food. Eat right

and exercise and never get sick. You are what you eat. We have to stick with

healthy food. "

>

> Konul,

>

> The above is an incorrect statement. Right, healthy foods, and exercise will

not protect everyone, nor will it prevent you from ever getting sick. It takes a

lot more in today's world than eating right and exercising. However, it

certainly will help your body to fend for itself better. Six years as a raw food

vegetarian, exercising, living a relaxed life in the sunshine. Then I was

diagnosed with cancer. It happens.

>

> ar

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ina,

I wish everything in this life was as easy as we say - just exercise, and you

will be healthy. In this world nothing happens for no reason. And we must find

out that reason ourselves. Because nobody knows our body better than ourselves.

And I cannot tell you much about why you got the cancer. Because I am not a

doctor and I wish could help you find out the reason.

Many people think they eat healthy. I was one of them. But when I educated

myself I found out that I did not.

My cousin drinks sodas and she thinks they are healthy. I cannot put it in her

mind that sodas are harmful. Because she loves it and she will not give it up.

Many people cannot give up the food they love and in order not to feel guilty

they convince themselves that what they eat is healthy. Sometimes I cannot keep

myself away from what I know is not healthy for me. But I say " just one time " .

Let's be fair and be our own judge. The first reason of many sicknesses is mal

nutrition. Exercise is a healthy life style, YES. But we can't tie everything to

exercise.

Please love and care yourself well. There is no more important thing in this

life than health.

All the best

Christie

From: ina

Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010

Christie,

You know I am thinking about the exercise thing - I did hardcord exercise 4

days a weeks. I did the step class two times a week then did cardio the

other two days....the days I did not go to the gym I walked outside for over

one hour. Then I also ate a very healthy diet. People at work all called me

the health nut - and yet I had a very fast growing tumor develop. So,

exercise did not prevent cancer from finding me.

[Guest guest]

I hope everything goes well with you. I know is difficult for everyone

nowadays but we must struggle.

That is the only choice we have. Life goes on. Please stay strong.

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of arlynsg

Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 6:53 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Chemo clinic - my thoughts

> I will be praying to God for your recovery and I am sure you are a strong

> person. Strong people always win. Be well and healthy.

>

> Christie

You, too, Christie. Thank you.

I worry quite a bit about deficiencies caused by diet. However, my biggest

problem are my food allergies - those are what cause my deficiencies. The

raw food diet cured me of all allergies for quite a few years. When I eased

up on my diet, the allergies started coming back. Now that I'm not as

strict, they are back in full force. My eating is very restricted due to the

allergies. So, actually, a vegetarian diet is the most healthful for me,

though I do need to keep rotating my foods constantly. It has gotten much

worse due to my restricted budget.

Best of luck to you.

ar

[Guest guest]

We do have, however, the study that indicates only 2-3% of patients are helped

by Chemotherapy except for those more rare types of cancer that seem to respond

well.

Just a couple of years ago The Cancer Industry heralded a " reduction in deaths

due to cancer " and that reduction? About 600 people that one year.

They just don't know.

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

Hmmm. It looks like some of your message did not come through because there

seems to only be what I wrote and it is doubtful you wanted to repeat just that.

Let us know.....unless my e-mail is messed up?

Joe C.

From: robyn howell

Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 11:16 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Chemo clinic - my thoughts

We do have, however, the study that indicates only 2-3% of patients are helped

by Chemotherapy except for those more rare types of cancer that seem to respond

well.

Just a couple of years ago The Cancer Industry heralded a " reduction in deaths

due to cancer " and that reduction? About 600 people that one year.

They just don't know.

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

I too was raw foods and allergies got better, along with cll white counts

went down. Then added some sprouted grains and some food allergies started

to come back. Then decided to go to a functional medicine doctor who found

that I was gluten sensitive, which caused leaky gut, which was the cause of

my food intolerances. So if you are having grains in your diet that may be

your problem. Get the genetic test to see if you have the gene. Entrolabs

is one of the places.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of arlynsg

Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 7:53 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Chemo clinic - my thoughts

> I will be praying to God for your recovery and I am sure you are a strong

> person. Strong people always win. Be well and healthy.

>

> Christie

You, too, Christie. Thank you.

I worry quite a bit about deficiencies caused by diet. However, my biggest

problem are my food allergies - those are what cause my deficiencies. The

raw food diet cured me of all allergies for quite a few years. When I eased

up on my diet, the allergies started coming back. Now that I'm not as

strict, they are back in full force. My eating is very restricted due to the

allergies. So, actually, a vegetarian diet is the most healthful for me,

though I do need to keep rotating my foods constantly. It has gotten much

worse due to my restricted budget.

Best of luck to you.

ar