Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 hi everyone, My mom was recently diagnosed with ovarian cancer. She is now using a combination of conventional and natural therapies. Does anyone have experience with specific dietary therapies that worked to reduce the chances of reoccurence? thanks Devon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Hi Rose, It looks as though the Budwig Protocal and Immunocal were working very well for your mom. Switching to Undenatured Whey Protein seems to have been the problem. Rather than adding yet another protocol to what was working for her, it seems that sticking with the Budwig plan will start reducing the CA125 numbers again. Mixing various protocols and adding various supplements to your mom's plan can definitely reduce having a successful result, as you have already seen. The Budwig plan works well on its own to heal cancer and other conditions. Best wishes, Gypsy Rose <gypsy___rose@...> wrote: > Slight correction to the information below. One of the test results was missing. > My Mom's CA125 went from 5000 on 8/05/08 to 233 on 09/09/08 and is now 300 as of 11/17/08. Her last chemo was on 8/29/08. It was the 233 in Sept that we did not know when I posted the email below. Now my concern is why have her numbers gone up? We did switch from Immunocal to Undenatured Whey Protein but I don't know of anything else that has changed. She has been following Budwig Protocol to the T. > She was actually going to start weekly lower-dose chemo treatments today (don't ask!) and by some divine intervention, my Uncle had the appointment time wrong, didn't pick her up to go and she decided it was fate and would hold off until at least after the holidays. > My plan now is to get her on Oleander Soup Protocol in addition to the Budwig and stress that she test again prior to any decision for more chemo. > Any thoughts on this? > Thanks, Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Is the undenatured whey also whey isolate? The rise from 233 to 300 is significant percentage-wise, but is insignificant compared to the drop from 5000! Perhaps it can be explained by something as simple as the decrease in natural sunlight at this time of year, leading to decreased vitamin D and endorphin levels. There is another issue - if I am not mistaken, the CA125 markers mark antibodies against cancer, right? In my case, I apparently had colon cancer spreading in my body, and my markers were ZERO. Why? My body was not putting up ANY resistance to the cancer, which is obviously not good. > > Slight correction to the information below. One of the test > results was missing. > > My Mom's CA125 went from 5000 on 8/05/08 to 233 on 09/09/08 and is > now 300 as of 11/17/08. Her last chemo was on 8/29/08. It was the > 233 in Sept that we did not know when I posted the email below. Now > my concern is why have her numbers gone up? We did switch from > Immunocal to Undenatured Whey Protein but I don't know of anything > else that has changed. She has been following Budwig Protocol to the > T. > > She was actually going to start weekly lower-dose chemo treatments > today (don't ask!) and by some divine intervention, my Uncle had the > appointment time wrong, didn't pick her up to go and she decided it > was fate and would hold off until at least after the holidays. > > My plan now is to get her on Oleander Soup Protocol in addition to > the Budwig and stress that she test again prior to any decision for > more chemo. > > Any thoughts on this? > > Thanks, Rose > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Hi Rose, My wife has cancer ovarian. We fight, concretely, already 3 years. Cancer diagnosis in 1999 year ( Stage 1, at present Stage 3). I have some experience. I do not know alternative methods, which in cancer ovary, will be able, quickly, to lower level CA125. Result which one you have is contribution chemo, BP in cancer ovary, is clever " to repair " organism, but will not be able, in short time, to lower Ca125. Do not surrender to illusions, Your decisions have to to be objective. My wife before 1 chemo: Ca125 > 40 000 !!!!!!!!!. At present has 2 recurrent and CA125 >2500. Now has oral chemistry: Etoposit. Does not have tumors, does not have liquid. Best. Jan _____ From: Gypsy Rose Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 2:43 AM Slight correction to the information below. One of the test results was missing. My Mom's CA125 went from 5000 on 8/05/08 to 233 on 09/09/08 and is now 300 as of 11/17/08. Her last chemo was on 8/29/08. It was the 233 in Sept that we did not know when I posted the email below. Now my concern is why have her numbers gone up? We did switch from Immunocal to Undenatured Whey Protein but I don't know of anything else that has changed. She has been following Budwig Protocol to the T. She was actually going to start weekly lower-dose chemo treatments today (don't ask!) and by some divine intervention, my Uncle had the appointment time wrong, didn't pick her up to go and she decided it was fate and would hold off until at least after the holidays. My plan now is to get her on Oleander Soup Protocol in addition to the Budwig and stress that she test again prior to any decision for more chemo. Any thoughts on this? Thanks, Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Undenatered means un pasturized  Whey protein isolate is concentrated form of whey protein available. It contains 90% or more protein and very little (if any) fat and lactose  Dennis. Is the undenatured whey also whey isolate? The rise from 233 to 300 is significant percentage-wise, but is insignificant compared to the drop from 5000! Perhaps it can be explained by something as simple as the decrease in natural sunlight at this time of year, leading to decreased vitamin D and endorphin levels. There is another issue - if I am not mistaken, the CA125 markers mark antibodies against cancer, right? In my case, I apparently had colon cancer spreading in my body, and my markers were ZERO. Why? My body was not putting up ANY resistance to the cancer, which is obviously not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 No, Jim, the CA125 test measures the antigens the tumor itself is making. It is not a measure of antibody production. Some tumors make CA125 and some don't (even with the diagnosis being the same). There are probably a lot of antigen markers that medicine does not even know about yet. This is why markers only have value in a relative sense. In other words...Are they going up, or are they going down? In your own case your cancer cells were not making that particular marker. This has nothing to do with how hard your immune system was fighting. In the case of the markers dropping from 5000 to 233....this was likely due to the recent chemotherapy. This does not mean the chemotherapy is a good thing...It just means that chemotherapy often drops markers for a while until the cells become drug resistant. Mike jrrjim wrote: > The rise from 233 to 300 is significant percentage-wise, but is > insignificant compared to the drop from 5000! Perhaps it can be > explained by something as simple as the decrease in natural sunlight > at this time of year, leading to decreased vitamin D and endorphin > levels. > There is another issue - if I am not mistaken, the CA125 markers mark antibodies against cancer, right? In my case, I apparently had colon cancer spreading in my body, and my markers were ZERO. Why? My body was not putting up ANY resistance to the cancer, which is obviously not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Hi were your markers measured before you had surgery? Are you monitoring the disease only with scans, without blood markers? thanks karla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 cheapest way to fight cancer is with the natural anti-cancer compounds in grapes. Please read http://www.alternativehealth.co.nz/cancer/grapediet/grape.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 how are you feeling? I had cancer too. I had thyroid cancer. I have been clean for a long time. -- join my groups at gen-chat-subscribe blind-people2-subscribe BlindCatholicChat-subscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Elena on <drelena.morrison@...> wrote: > Anything new on ovarian cancer -stage 2, Serous cell Ca. I don't know that any of this is new, but my 1st choices of therapies for ovarian cacner would be (particularly CAPITALIZED items) PROTOCEL, mistletoe, curcumin, Artemix, Hoxsey, Avemar?, ginger, yew?, CDG & DIM/I3C, Immupower (YoungLivingOils.com), IV vit. C (w/K3); Poly-MVA, IPT, UKRAIN, NEWCASTLE vaccine, COLEY’S TOXINS, HYPERTHERMIA, immunotherapy, antiangiogenesis; address hormones > I'm pesco-vegetarian...green juice Great! Leonard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Something I found today that might help. Hot peppers kill cancer cells. Habanero, jalapeno and cayenne to name a few. They are part of the capsicum species having multiple health effects. The natural chemical that puts the heat in hot peppers is called " capsaisin. " In 2004, Dr. Sanjay K. Srivastava and colleagues (University of Pittsburg School of Medicine) treated Pancreatic cells with capsaisin and found that it disrupts mitochondrial function and induced apoptosis (programmed cell death) in the cancerous cells without affecting the normal pancreatic cells. In other words, capsaisin was found to be selectively toxic to cancer cells! The results of the study were published in the April 20 2005, issue of Innovations Report. In an article published in Reuters on March 16 2006, entitled, " Hot Peppers kill Prostate Cancer Cells In Study " , Dr. Soren Lehmann of the Cedar-Sinai Medical Center and the UCLA School of Medicine asserted: " Capsaisin had a profound anti-proliferative effect on human prostate cancer cells in culture. It caused 80% of the prostate cancer cells growing in mice to commit suicide in a process called " apoptosis " . Researchers in Japan have also shown that cayenne pepper can dramatically slow the development of prostate tumors. It is also worth noting that in the USA, the state of New Mexico has the lowest cancer mortality rate than all 50 states. Why? One reason may be that eat more hot peppers than any other state per capita. Garlic is also a natural food that is an anti-viral, anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, anti-parasitical. Long story short: One day about 2 months ago I am listening to a talk radio program where they are talking about alternative cancer cure methods. A man calls in and says he knows people that are having luck battling their cancers by eating hot peppers and garlic daily. It was also mentioned that people that have a hard time eating peppers can substitute with grated ginger. A man named Kelley Eidem has a website (google his name and the word cancer) where he describes a short recipe with foods that can be purchased at most grocery or health food stores to help fight cancer. Hope this helps - Marg > > Anything new on ovarian cancer -stage 2, Serous cell Ca. > I don't know that any of this is new, but my 1st choices of therapies for ovarian cacner would be (particularly CAPITALIZED items) > PROTOCEL, mistletoe, curcumin, Artemix, Hoxsey, Avemar?, ginger, yew?, CDG & DIM/I3C, Immupower (YoungLivingOils.com), IV vit. C (w/K3); Poly-MVA, IPT, UKRAIN, NEWCASTLE vaccine, COLEY’S TOXINS, HYPERTHERMIA, immunotherapy, antiangiogenesis; address hormones > > > I'm pesco-vegetarian...green juice > Great! > > Leonard > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 You might want to check your blood copper and zinc level. Many cancer patients have very high copper and low zinc levels. Copper is what tumors need to grow blood vessels and metastasize. A zinc supplement can chelate copper and bring the level down over time. Alternatively there is a safe antiangiogenic drug called Tetrathiomolybdate which is being used by some cancer clinics. A combination of TM and zinc is the best option in my opinion. Later zinc or a lower dose of TM can be used for maintenance. Copper levels tend to rise quickly again if therapy is discontinued. http://www.cancerprotocol.com/role_of_copper.html http://www.medicorcancer.com/amoniumTM.html Ideally this drug should be used in combination with another therapy. > > Anything new on ovarian cancer -stage 2, Serous cell Ca. > > Completed Chemo 2 months ago, Pet scan normal and Ca-125 normal > I'm pesco-vegetarian and at present with my green juice I take (Anamu)or so-called Guinea hen weed. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Hi...just thought I'd add this. My doctor recommends taking alpha-lipoic supplements to bring the copper levels back into balance (along with the zinc if needed). In health, Carol > > > > Anything new on ovarian cancer -stage 2, Serous cell Ca. > > > > Completed Chemo 2 months ago, Pet scan normal and Ca-125 normal > > I'm pesco-vegetarian and at present with my green juice I take > (Anamu)or so-called Guinea hen weed. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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