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hi everyone,

My mom was recently diagnosed with ovarian cancer. She is now using a

combination of conventional and natural therapies. Does anyone have

experience with specific dietary therapies that worked to reduce the

chances of reoccurence?

thanks

Devon

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Hi Rose,

It looks as though the Budwig Protocal and Immunocal were working

very well for your mom. Switching to Undenatured Whey Protein seems

to have been the problem. Rather than adding yet another protocol to

what was working for her, it seems that sticking with the Budwig plan

will start reducing the CA125 numbers again.

Mixing various protocols and adding various supplements to your mom's

plan can definitely reduce having a successful result, as you have

already seen. The Budwig plan works well on its own to heal cancer

and other conditions.

Best wishes,

Gypsy Rose <gypsy___rose@...> wrote:

> Slight correction to the information below. One of the test

results was missing.

> My Mom's CA125 went from 5000 on 8/05/08 to 233 on 09/09/08 and is

now 300 as of 11/17/08. Her last chemo was on 8/29/08. It was the

233 in Sept that we did not know when I posted the email below. Now

my concern is why have her numbers gone up? We did switch from

Immunocal to Undenatured Whey Protein but I don't know of anything

else that has changed. She has been following Budwig Protocol to the

T.

> She was actually going to start weekly lower-dose chemo treatments

today (don't ask!) and by some divine intervention, my Uncle had the

appointment time wrong, didn't pick her up to go and she decided it

was fate and would hold off until at least after the holidays.

> My plan now is to get her on Oleander Soup Protocol in addition to

the Budwig and stress that she test again prior to any decision for

more chemo.

> Any thoughts on this?

> Thanks, Rose

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Is the undenatured whey also whey isolate?

The rise from 233 to 300 is significant percentage-wise, but is

insignificant compared to the drop from 5000! Perhaps it can be

explained by something as simple as the decrease in natural sunlight

at this time of year, leading to decreased vitamin D and endorphin

levels.

There is another issue - if I am not mistaken, the CA125 markers mark

antibodies against cancer, right? In my case, I apparently had colon

cancer spreading in my body, and my markers were ZERO. Why? My body

was not putting up ANY resistance to the cancer, which is obviously

not good.

> > Slight correction to the information below. One of the test

> results was missing.

> > My Mom's CA125 went from 5000 on 8/05/08 to 233 on 09/09/08 and

is

> now 300 as of 11/17/08. Her last chemo was on 8/29/08. It was the

> 233 in Sept that we did not know when I posted the email below.

Now

> my concern is why have her numbers gone up? We did switch from

> Immunocal to Undenatured Whey Protein but I don't know of anything

> else that has changed. She has been following Budwig Protocol to

the

> T.

> > She was actually going to start weekly lower-dose chemo

treatments

> today (don't ask!) and by some divine intervention, my Uncle had

the

> appointment time wrong, didn't pick her up to go and she decided it

> was fate and would hold off until at least after the holidays.

> > My plan now is to get her on Oleander Soup Protocol in addition

to

> the Budwig and stress that she test again prior to any decision for

> more chemo.

> > Any thoughts on this?

> > Thanks, Rose

>

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Hi Rose,

My wife has cancer ovarian. We fight, concretely, already 3 years.

Cancer diagnosis in 1999 year ( Stage 1, at present Stage 3). I have some

experience.

I do not know alternative methods, which in cancer ovary, will be able,

quickly, to lower level CA125.

Result which one you have is contribution chemo, BP in cancer ovary, is

clever " to repair " organism,

but will not be able, in short time, to lower Ca125. Do not surrender to

illusions, Your decisions have to to be objective.

My wife before 1 chemo: Ca125 > 40 000 !!!!!!!!!. At present has 2

recurrent and CA125 >2500.

Now has oral chemistry: Etoposit. Does not have tumors, does not have

liquid.

Best. Jan

_____

From: Gypsy Rose

Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 2:43 AM

Slight correction to the information below. One of the test results was missing.

My Mom's CA125 went from 5000 on 8/05/08 to 233 on 09/09/08 and is now 300 as of

11/17/08. Her last chemo was on 8/29/08. It was the 233 in Sept that we did not

know when I posted the email below. Now my concern is why have her numbers gone

up? We did switch from Immunocal to Undenatured Whey Protein but I don't know of

anything else that has changed. She has been following Budwig Protocol to the T.

She was actually going to start weekly lower-dose chemo treatments today (don't

ask!) and by some divine intervention, my Uncle had the appointment time wrong,

didn't pick her up to go and she decided it was fate and would hold off until at

least after the holidays.

My plan now is to get her on Oleander Soup Protocol in addition to the

Budwig and stress that she test again prior to any decision for more chemo. Any

thoughts on this?

Thanks, Rose

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Undenatered means un pasturized

 

Whey protein isolate is concentrated form of whey protein available. It contains

90% or more protein and very little (if any) fat and lactose

 

Dennis.

Is the undenatured whey also whey isolate?

The rise from 233 to 300 is significant percentage-wise, but is

insignificant compared to the drop from 5000! Perhaps it can be

explained by something as simple as the decrease in natural sunlight

at this time of year, leading to decreased vitamin D and endorphin

levels.

There is another issue - if I am not mistaken, the CA125 markers mark

antibodies against cancer, right? In my case, I apparently had colon

cancer spreading in my body, and my markers were ZERO. Why? My body

was not putting up ANY resistance to the cancer, which is obviously

not good.

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No, Jim, the CA125 test measures the antigens the tumor itself is

making. It is not a measure of antibody production. Some tumors make

CA125 and some don't (even with the diagnosis being the same). There

are probably a lot of antigen markers that medicine does not even know

about yet. This is why markers only have value in a relative sense. In

other words...Are they going up, or are they going down? In your own

case your cancer cells were not making that particular marker. This has

nothing to do with how hard your immune system was fighting.

In the case of the markers dropping from 5000 to 233....this was likely

due to the recent chemotherapy. This does not mean the chemotherapy is

a good thing...It just means that chemotherapy often drops markers for a

while until the cells become drug resistant.

Mike

jrrjim wrote:

> The rise from 233 to 300 is significant percentage-wise, but is

> insignificant compared to the drop from 5000! Perhaps it can be

> explained by something as simple as the decrease in natural sunlight

> at this time of year, leading to decreased vitamin D and endorphin

> levels.

> There is another issue - if I am not mistaken, the CA125 markers mark

antibodies against cancer, right? In my case, I apparently had colon cancer

spreading in my body, and my markers were ZERO. Why? My body was not putting up

ANY resistance to the cancer, which is obviously not good.

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Elena on <drelena.morrison@...> wrote:

> Anything new on ovarian cancer -stage 2, Serous cell Ca.

I don't know that any of this is new, but my 1st choices of therapies for

ovarian cacner would be (particularly CAPITALIZED items)

PROTOCEL, mistletoe, curcumin, Artemix, Hoxsey, Avemar?, ginger, yew?, CDG &

DIM/I3C, Immupower (YoungLivingOils.com), IV vit. C (w/K3); Poly-MVA, IPT,

UKRAIN, NEWCASTLE vaccine, COLEY’S TOXINS, HYPERTHERMIA, immunotherapy,

antiangiogenesis; address hormones

> I'm pesco-vegetarian...green juice

Great!

Leonard

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Something I found today that might help.

Hot peppers kill cancer cells. Habanero, jalapeno and cayenne to name a few.

They are part of the capsicum species having multiple health effects. The

natural chemical that puts the heat in hot peppers is called " capsaisin. " In

2004, Dr. Sanjay K. Srivastava and colleagues (University of Pittsburg School of

Medicine) treated Pancreatic cells with capsaisin and found that it disrupts

mitochondrial function and induced apoptosis (programmed cell death) in the

cancerous cells without affecting the normal pancreatic cells. In other words,

capsaisin was found to be selectively toxic to cancer cells! The results of the

study were published in the April 20 2005, issue of Innovations Report. In an

article published in Reuters on March 16 2006, entitled, " Hot Peppers kill

Prostate Cancer Cells In Study " , Dr. Soren Lehmann of the Cedar-Sinai Medical

Center and the UCLA School of Medicine asserted: " Capsaisin had a profound

anti-proliferative effect on human prostate cancer cells in culture. It caused

80% of the prostate cancer cells growing in mice to commit suicide in a process

called " apoptosis " . Researchers in Japan have also shown that cayenne pepper

can dramatically slow the development of prostate tumors.

It is also worth noting that in the USA, the state of New Mexico has the lowest

cancer mortality rate than all 50 states. Why? One reason may be that eat more

hot peppers than any other state per capita.

Garlic is also a natural food that is an anti-viral, anti-bacterial,

anti-fungal, anti-parasitical.

Long story short: One day about 2 months ago I am listening to a talk radio

program where they are talking about alternative cancer cure methods. A man

calls in and says he knows people that are having luck battling their cancers by

eating hot peppers and garlic daily. It was also mentioned that people that

have a hard time eating peppers can substitute with grated ginger. A man named

Kelley Eidem has a website (google his name and the word cancer) where he

describes a short recipe with foods that can be purchased at most grocery or

health food stores to help fight cancer.

Hope this helps - Marg

> > Anything new on ovarian cancer -stage 2, Serous cell Ca.

> I don't know that any of this is new, but my 1st choices of therapies for

ovarian cacner would be (particularly CAPITALIZED items)

> PROTOCEL, mistletoe, curcumin, Artemix, Hoxsey, Avemar?, ginger, yew?, CDG &

DIM/I3C, Immupower (YoungLivingOils.com), IV vit. C (w/K3); Poly-MVA, IPT,

UKRAIN, NEWCASTLE vaccine, COLEY’S TOXINS, HYPERTHERMIA, immunotherapy,

antiangiogenesis; address hormones

>

> > I'm pesco-vegetarian...green juice

> Great!

>

> Leonard

>

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You might want to check your blood copper and zinc level. Many cancer

patients have very high copper and low zinc levels. Copper is what

tumors need to grow blood vessels and metastasize.

A zinc supplement can chelate copper and bring the level down over time.

Alternatively there is a safe antiangiogenic drug called

Tetrathiomolybdate which is being used by some cancer clinics. A

combination of TM and zinc is the best option in my opinion. Later zinc

or a lower dose of TM can be used for maintenance. Copper levels tend to

rise quickly again if therapy is discontinued.

http://www.cancerprotocol.com/role_of_copper.html

http://www.medicorcancer.com/amoniumTM.html

Ideally this drug should be used in combination with another therapy.

>

> Anything new on ovarian cancer -stage 2, Serous cell Ca.

>

> Completed Chemo 2 months ago, Pet scan normal and Ca-125 normal

> I'm pesco-vegetarian and at present with my green juice I take

(Anamu)or so-called Guinea hen weed.

>

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Hi...just thought I'd add this. My doctor recommends taking alpha-lipoic

supplements to bring the copper levels back into balance (along with the zinc if

needed). In health, Carol

> >

> > Anything new on ovarian cancer -stage 2, Serous cell Ca.

> >

> > Completed Chemo 2 months ago, Pet scan normal and Ca-125 normal

> > I'm pesco-vegetarian and at present with my green juice I take

> (Anamu)or so-called Guinea hen weed.

> >

>

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