Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Coumadin is Warfarin and that drug does not clear up clots regardless of what the physician may have said. The body eventually either dissolves the clot or re-canalizes which means it finds a path around it as it did with my wife and most people. The claimed purpose of the Warfarin (generic of Coumadin) is to keep the blood thin and avoid additional clots. There are more natural and less dangerous ways to accomplish this because Warfarin has serious side effects and must be closely watched. Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 As you may know, a PE is a life threatening event and a delicate balance must be maintained between the anti-coagluant therapy effects and risk of bleeding events. An advantage of the main standard drugs used for PE and other clotting disorders is that the balance can be monitored readily by blood tests. When taking stardard anticoagulants, even aspirin should be discontinued. So please consult your doctor if considering natural methods. Karl Schwartz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Hi Rose, My heart is heavy for your uncle. My husband was 43 years old when this happened. He is a retired professional athlete and in shape! Anyway, he is just now weaning himself from the coumadin. So, he took it almost three years. The injury or event happened January 2006. The reason we decided to keep him on coumadin so long was that first of all, he had a reoccurence on coumadin 5 days later. Then last Fall in his kidneys he was also on coumadin. My quest was to figure out the source of inflammation. does not eat anything unhealthy. I am a functional diagnostic nutritionist and you can imagine what my family has to eat....all organic, all for their own metabolic type, a few supplements etc. So, had a few thermograms and that pulmonary vein still showed inflammation two years later! The problem never was solved. We finally decided to use bio-identical hormones on him to strengthen his adrenals and a food allergy test and BINGO! He was eating foods that he was allergic to and those produced that very inflammation in his lungs. So now I feel more at peace with him getting off the coumadin. We have a reason.......The best specialists here in Denver at National Jewish never found the cause for this illness which made me quite scared. As you know, clots travel and sometimes/oftentimes cause great damage. Anyway I would not be too concerned for your uncle unless he is elderly. My had his youth, his physical fitness and me who did not let up on the food issue. I watched him like a hawk and he now does it on his own. Bless you, Johanne From: Gypsy Rose Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 11:26 AM Subject: [ ] Pulmonary Embolism Johanne, When your husband had the PE, was he on cumadin and warfarin ro did he just do supplements? Can you give me some details of what you did, please. My uncle was recently in hospital and is now on these two medications and they are saying it will take six months to a year to clear up the clots and he has to be on these meds. Hugs, Rose From: thewfamily Serrapeptase would not be a problem. I had my husband take it when he was struck with pulmonary embolism. It did a good job on him. He had 80% of one lung and 25% of another full of clots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 The more natural and less dangerous ways to thin the blood did not work for my husband except evening primrose oil but just a little. The clots were eventually covered by scar tissue and the rest is history. The answer is to find out the source of inflammation or you will end up with the same problem once again. Johanne From: JCastron Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Pulmonary Embolism Coumadin is Warfarin and that drug does not clear up clots regardless of what the physician may have said. The body eventually either dissolves the clot or re-canalizes which means it finds a path around it as it did with my wife and most people. The claimed purpose of the Warfarin (generic of Coumadin) is to keep the blood thin and avoid additional clots. There are more natural and less dangerous ways to accomplish this because Warfarin has serious side effects and must be closely watched. Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Joe C., I believe you are right about that. Getting my uncle to believe me is a whole 'nother story! I will try to find some evidence for this on the Net to support what I tell him. That might be the only way. Thanks for the input. Hugs, Rose From: jcastron Coumadin is Warfarin and that drug does not clear up clots regardless of what the physician may have said.The body eventually either dissolves the clot or re-canalizes which means it finds a path around it as it did with my wife and most people.The claimed purpose of the Warfarin (generic of Coumadin) is to keep the blood thin and avoid additional clots.There are more natural and less dangerous ways to accomplish this because Warfarin has serious side effects and must be closely watched.Joe C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 My Uncle is 72. I am worried about him taking the warfarin. I believe it will lead to other problems and not even fix the problem of it's intended use. He is the only person here in Philly helping out with my Mom who has ovarian cancer. She is on the Budwig Protocol and I live in CA and cannot be here all the time. He was helping her with the shopping for all of her new diet/lifestyle changes and it was a comfort to me to know that he was here. Now he has so many health issues of his own and he has been in the hopsital. I have had to come back to help with my Mom again and I was just here 10 days ago for 10 days. I am hoping to find a solution to get my uncle back up to speed to take over again. Hugs, Rose From: thewfamily Hi Rose, My heart is heavy for your uncle.My husband was 43 years old when this happened. He is a retired professional athlete and in shape! Anyway, he is just now weaning himself from the coumadin. So, he took it almost three years. The injury or event happened January 2006.The reason we decided to keep him on coumadin so long was that first of all, he had a reoccurence on coumadin 5 days later. Then last Fall in his kidneys he was also on coumadin.My quest was to figure out the source of inflammation. does not eat anything unhealthy. I am a functional diagnostic nutritionist and you can imagine what my family has to eat....all organic, all for their own metabolic type, a few supplements etc. So, had a few thermograms and that pulmonary vein still showed inflammation two years later! The problem never was solved. We finally decided to use bio-identical hormones on him to strengthen his adrenals and a food allergy test and BINGO! He was eating foods that he was allergic to and those produced that very inflammation in his lungs. So now I feel more at peace with him getting off the coumadin. We have a reason.......The best specialists here in Denver at National Jewish never found the cause for this illness which made me quite scared. As you know, clots travel and sometimes/oftentimes cause great damage. Anyway I would not be too concerned for your uncle unless he is elderly. My had his youth, his physical fitness and me who did not let up on the food issue. I watched him like a hawk and he now does it on his own. Bless you,Johanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 The doctors say that the clots came from his legs. That he probably hit his legs getting in and out of the car and didn't even realize or see a visible bruise but that they traveled up to his lungs. Hugs, Rose From: thewfamily The more natural and less dangerous ways to thin the blood did not work for my husband except evening primrose oil but just a little.The clots were eventually covered by scar tissue and the rest is history. The answer is to find out the source of inflammation or you will end up with the same problem once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 So, what are the other more natural and safer alternative to warfarin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 RE finding the hidden source of inflamation that may be related to clot formation - I'd bet it's a hidden dental or gum problem. I did every therapy & amalgam replacement & finally had a troublesome tooth pulled. That resulted in general health improvment, Also, Vitamin C may be good for reducing CRP(c-reactive protein). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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