Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Thank you for the update, mem sahib! Be VERY careful out there in the jungle using this stuff. There are LOTS of bacteria and virulent microorganisms that can contaminate your DCA. We shall look forward to hearing from you, step by step, and certainly wish you the very BEST of success! There is a pharmacologist developing a drug that appears to work similarly to DCA who will be interested to see how it goes with you, mem sahib. What have you found out about toxicity? I know you've said you were going to do some pH testing, and that you plan to take it with thiamine to protect your liver. Any other precautions you are taking? What did Michelakis say about toxicity, anything? > > Just received my DCA order. Will start next week. > Also, on the Glenn Beck show tonight on CNN, Beck > interviewed the DCA researcher from Canada, Dr > Michelakis. They discussed DCA and getting funding > for clinical trials. > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 I took DCA this am with water. Dissolves in water easily. White powder. --- breathedeepnow <aug20@...> wrote: > Thank you for the update, mem sahib! Be VERY careful > out there in the > jungle using this stuff. There are LOTS of bacteria > and virulent > microorganisms that can contaminate your DCA. > > We shall look forward to hearing from you, step by > step, and > certainly wish you the very BEST of success! > > There is a pharmacologist developing a drug that > appears to work > similarly to DCA who will be interested to see how > it goes with you, > mem sahib. > > What have you found out about toxicity? I know > you've said you were > going to do some pH testing, and that you plan to > take it with > thiamine to protect your liver. Any other > precautions you are taking? > What did Michelakis say about toxicity, anything? > > > > > > Just received my DCA order. Will start next week. > > > Also, on the Glenn Beck show tonight on CNN, Beck > > interviewed the DCA researcher from Canada, Dr > > Michelakis. They discussed DCA and getting > funding > > for clinical trials. > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at > www.Answers.. > Try it now. > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Travel to find your fit. http://farechase./promo-generic-14795097 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 What dose did you start at? Did you take anything else with it? What have you found out about toxicity? Any side-effects yet, or do you expect to experience any side-effects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 would my friend who has pancreatic cancer and small ovarian tumours benefit from this drug? she was doing great on I.V. vitamin c and other natural protocols but when her oncologist got ahold of her, he discouraged her from everything - now she is thin, can't eat, her spirit is completely broken - time is running out for her and she is only 41 years old...... we live in Canada, how would we get this drug? thanks patti " nothing is so strong as gentleness and nothing is so gentle as real strength " >From: Dr Wolski <privet012002@...> >Reply-cures for cancer >cures for cancer >Subject: DCA update >Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 07:44:56 -0800 (PST) > >I took DCA yesterday. The pH was 6.5, so just >slightly acidic. No problem with first oral dose. > >On a sad note, the ex of a lady at work is in hospice >now with cancer. I did suggest to her that perhaps he >could try the DCA. I would give him some, but under >the circumstances, it is a touchy subject. I don't >think she was thrilled with my suggestion, but I tried >to help. Would have felt worse if I did not at least >suggest it. Dr Michelakis, the DCA researcher was on >CNN recently talking about DCA. > > > >_______________________________________________________________________________\ _____ >Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast >with the Search weather shortcut. >http://tools.search./shortcuts/#loc_weather > > >Visit http://cures for cancer.ws. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 Hi, Patti. It is not a drug, as such. It is not sold by pharmacies. The only way to get this chemical or compound is through a chemical company. You or someone else will need to find a list of chemical companies in Canada and contact them or search on line to see if they stock dichloroacetate. It's not just a simple matter, though, of contacting a chemical company that sells DCA and ordering it. One needs to be a researcher or needs to get a researcher to order DCA for one. Then, too, one needs to know what dosage to take, and how often to take it. There was also some question about liver damage. DW said he was going to take thiamine with the DCA to protect his liver. What, exactly, did the oncologist do to this woman besides " discourage her from everything? " Why, if she was doing so great, did she allow the oncologist to get her to stop doing what she was doing? Did he give her chemotherapy or radiation on top of getting her to stop her natural protocol? If she is in the condition you say she is, it appears to me that she BADLY NEEDS TO PUT HERSELF DIRECTLY INTO THE HANDS OF A NATURAL PRACTITIONER OF SOME KIND. She needs hands-on, personal care from someone, it seems to me, to try to pull her out of the state she has sunken into, in my opinion. Some kind of clinic, or some naturopath who would be kind and caring enough to be with her personally to watch her carefully and to help her through this crisis to get her back to where she can take care of herself again. I know I've read about natural healers, Dr. Budwig and others, pulling people with cancer back from the edge of death. But I am not sure how one would find such a person these days. I'm so sorry this has happened to your friend. It's so sad when an oncologist is not smart enough to say to at least say to someone who is doing well with so serious a dis-ease as pancreatic cancer: " I don't know what you're doing, but keep on doing it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 DW, Could you please give more detail: How have you established how much to take per dose? How often do you plan to take the DCA? Are you taking thiamine or anything else with the DCA to mitigate against any toxic effects? How soon do you hope to realize any positive effects from the DCA? Thank you so much. > > I took DCA yesterday. The pH was 6.5, so just > slightly acidic. No problem with first oral dose. > > On a sad note, the ex of a lady at work is in hospice > now with cancer. I did suggest to her that perhaps he > could try the DCA. I would give him some, but under > the circumstances, it is a touchy subject. I don't > think she was thrilled with my suggestion, but I tried > to help. Would have felt worse if I did not at least > suggest it. Dr Michelakis, the DCA researcher was on > CNN recently talking about DCA. > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast > with the Search weather shortcut. > http://tools.search./shortcuts/#loc_weather > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 when she was first diagnosed back in September, the oncologist that diagnosed her basically wrote her off, telling her she would be dead within four months - I put her in touch with an apothocary that is amazing, he works with 'open minded' Dr.'s - and puts you on a protocol to beat the cancer. He has had great success with pancreatic cancer, with such things as i.v. vitamin c, lycopene, other things, too numerous to mention - she was doing great, the picture of health - and full of so much hope to beat this thing and be a survivor. She went to another oncologist, who I believe, is completely burnt out and basically said to her " I don't hold out much hope for you " - he discouraged her of all natural things telling her it would interfere with his treatment...?? (treatment? palliative chemo and radiation and a death sentence) - he stripped away her enthusiasm, her hope and her spirit - if somebody tells you you're going to die, over and over, chances are you will. I don't understand why he wouldn't work with the apothacary who is trying so desperately to save her. She has spent the past two months, debilitated in bed, vomitiing several times a day. Last cat scan showed, no growth of the pancreatic tumour and shrinkage in the ovarian tumours. She made the decision the other day to stop all chemo and radiation and if she can keep things down, is going to try to get back on her natural supplements, however, time is of the essence here and she is fast running out. Thank you for your information, I know it isn't as simple as just getting it and voila - I had thought maybe the apothocary could get it for her and guide her through it, but she almost seems to have accepted her fate now and all my talking seems to be falling on deaf ears. I'll keep trying!! thanks so much Patti " nothing is so strong as gentleness and nothing is so gentle as real strength " >From: " breathedeepnow " <aug20@...> >Reply-cures for cancer >cures for cancer >Subject: Re: DCA update >Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:43:09 -0000 > >Hi, Patti. > >It is not a drug, as such. It is not sold by pharmacies. The only way >to get this chemical or compound is through a chemical company. You >or someone else will need to find a list of chemical companies in >Canada and contact them or search on line to see if they stock >dichloroacetate. > >It's not just a simple matter, though, of contacting a chemical >company that sells DCA and ordering it. One needs to be a researcher >or needs to get a researcher to order DCA for one. > >Then, too, one needs to know what dosage to take, and how often to >take it. There was also some question about liver damage. DW said he >was going to take thiamine with the DCA to protect his liver. > >What, exactly, did the oncologist do to this woman >besides " discourage her from everything? " Why, if she was doing so >great, did she allow the oncologist to get her to stop doing what she >was doing? Did he give her chemotherapy or radiation on top of >getting her to stop her natural protocol? > >If she is in the condition you say she is, it appears to me that she >BADLY NEEDS TO PUT HERSELF DIRECTLY INTO THE HANDS OF A NATURAL >PRACTITIONER OF SOME KIND. She needs hands-on, personal care from >someone, it seems to me, to try to pull her out of the state she has >sunken into, in my opinion. Some kind of clinic, or some naturopath >who would be kind and caring enough to be with her personally to >watch her carefully and to help her through this crisis to get her >back to where she can take care of herself again. > >I know I've read about natural healers, Dr. Budwig and others, >pulling people with cancer back from the edge of death. But I am not >sure how one would find such a person these days. > >I'm so sorry this has happened to your friend. It's so sad when an >oncologist is not smart enough to say to at least say to someone who >is doing well with so serious a dis-ease as pancreatic cancer: " I >don't know what you're doing, but keep on doing it. " > > > > >Visit http://cures for cancer.ws. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 You are an excellent friend! And I like very much your quotation at the end of your messages: " Nothing is so strong as gentleness and nothing is so gentle as real strength " It agrees perfectly with what Confucius said about power, strength, etc. And Jesus, Who was the Son of God, was a thoroughly gentle Being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 DCA can be gotten from Sigma Aldrich. They are on the internet. Sodium DCA. You have to be some kind of researcher and they only deliver to a lab or office, not to home. If you can get it, it is $172 for 50g, that includes shipping cost. $134 for DCA itself. --- * * <gemini_0306@...> wrote: > would my friend who has pancreatic cancer and small > ovarian tumours benefit > from this drug? > she was doing great on I.V. vitamin c and other > natural protocols but when > her oncologist got ahold of her, he discouraged her > from everything - now > she is thin, can't eat, her spirit is completely > broken - > time is running out for her and she is only 41 years > old...... > we live in Canada, how would we get this drug? > thanks > patti > > > > " nothing is so strong as gentleness and nothing is > so gentle as real > strength " > > > > > > >From: Dr Wolski <privet012002@...> > >Reply-cures for cancer > >cures for cancer > >Subject: DCA update > >Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 07:44:56 -0800 (PST) > > > >I took DCA yesterday. The pH was 6.5, so just > >slightly acidic. No problem with first oral dose. > > > >On a sad note, the ex of a lady at work is in > hospice > >now with cancer. I did suggest to her that perhaps > he > >could try the DCA. I would give him some, but > under > >the circumstances, it is a touchy subject. I don't > >think she was thrilled with my suggestion, but I > tried > >to help. Would have felt worse if I did not at > least > >suggest it. Dr Michelakis, the DCA researcher was > on > >CNN recently talking about DCA. > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________________________________________\ _____ > >Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the > forecast > >with the Search weather shortcut. > >http://tools.search./shortcuts/#loc_weather > > > > > >Visit http://cures for cancer.ws. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 DW--- DOSAGE, please? And HOW MANY TIMES A DAY? And HOW did you decide on dosage and x per day, please? > > >now with cancer. I did suggest to her that perhaps > > he > > >could try the DCA. I would give him some, but > > under > > >the circumstances, it is a touchy subject. I don't > > >think she was thrilled with my suggestion, but I > > tried > > >to help. Would have felt worse if I did not at > > least > > >suggest it. Dr Michelakis, the DCA researcher was > > on > > >CNN recently talking about DCA. > > > > > > > > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________________ _______________ > > >Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the > > forecast > > >with the Search weather shortcut. > > > >http://tools.search./shortcuts/#loc_weather > > > > > > > > >Visit http://cures for cancer.ws. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 From the Official University of Alberta DCA Site <http://www.depmed.ualberta.ca/dca/>: Letter from Dr. Evangelos Michelakis June 01, 2007 Dear Friends, We continue to be moved by your sustained interest and support of our efforts. We have been working tirelessly over the past several months to bring this research from the laboratory to the level of a clinical trial. This is a very challenging endeavor since it is not supported by the pharmaceutical industry. The process of bringing a drug from animal research to clinical trial takes a few years. However over the past 3 months, we have made significant progress towards achieving our goals. We have received help and input from stakeholders, medical and otherwise, and have received input from our health care partners in Alberta to ensure a clinical trial that can address both efficacy and safety of this potential treatment. We have significantly revised and improved our original protocol for Health Canada's consideration. We would like to remind you that despite the fact that dichloroacetate has been used in humans for over 20 years the appropriate dose for cancer patients remains unknown. There are several unique features of a cancer patient, from body metabolism to a number of unique drugs that only cancer patients are exposed to, that do not allow extrapolations from other conditions. Therefore, extra caution has to be exercised regarding the strategy to identify an optimal dose. More importantly, we would like to remind you that this work, at least at its early stages, will not be able to be completed without your ongoing support. Finally, we are very pleased to see that a number of key findings in scientific literature have surfaced over the past six months and appear to support a proposed theory and the potential effectiveness of dichloroacetate or similar drugs as effective therapies for cancer. Prestigious institutions and journals are now putting our work in context with these new developments and have expressed guarded optimism for these efforts. Such a review was recently published at the prestigious journal " Science " with a title " Metabolic Targeting as an Anti-cancer Strategy; Dawn of a New Era? " A copy of this paper can be found in the media section of our website. Sincerely yours, Evangelos D. Michelakis, MD, FACC, FAHA Associate Professor of Medicine (Cardiology) Director, Pulmonary Hypertension Program Canada Research Chair in Pulmonary Hypertension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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