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Hello, All,

De-lurking for a bit to ask a question - am including the details per

's encouragement to do so for clearer explanations ;-):

Prior to 10 months ago, I only had scalp/hairy region type of psoriasis

(although PA since a teenager). Then, after a very hot and sweaty 12 days

in Italy (during which I apparently de-toxed: it was 95 degrees AND humidity

last summer and I drank and sweated enough that I even lost the bags under

my eyes!), two months later, my feet starting aching terribly, saw some bone

growth on that outer bone near the toes and they started itching terribly on

the soles - even got those big calloused things. After a couple of months,

got those to go away (using creams, bag balm and saran wrap ... or maybe it

just happened on its own?) but then the itching spread to the top of the

foot where I got these real small 'pimples' and I scratched so much I made

the skin red (and raised, it doesn't go away once that happens, only

lightens in color) and even made some bleed. Then it spread up the leg to

the calves.

Went to a doctor few months ago and he prescribed a cortisone-based ointment

to put on at night and a cream for the morning. Relieved the itching and

started cooling it down, then stopped working - that was two months ago.

Wasn't bad so I was hoping it had been arrested, no such luck. Last week,

itching got very intense again, scratching is impossible not to do, even

wakes me up at night. And it is now happening on my right hand: this

morning, I can see the very tiny pimples between on a couple of fingers on

the inside next to another finger, and on my palm.

I am at my wits end - the doctor claims it isn't psoriasis, but eczema.

It is better in the morning and during the day, but I think that is because

I am moving, or maybe drinking water (try to drink several glasses each day,

or???). He did mention something about 'renal insufficiency', but

otherwise my circulation, I think is good?

So what do you all think? Is it really some weird manifestation of

psoriasis, or an allergy that is showing up because I 'cleansed myself' and

then 'poisoned myself with something that didn't bother me before (I say

this because it mimics what happened to me when I first went to college and

got away from my Dad's cigarette smoking - I came back clean and strongly

allergic to it, whereas I could tolerate it fine before). There are

theories that skin problems like psoriasis are (partly) due to the liver,

not being able to detox us enough (and of course, everyone's toxins are

peculiar to their chemistry and environment, so it could even be a food or

cosmetic or soap allergen, etc.). And if this really isn't psoriasis, is it

very weird, spreading the way it is (although not like poison oak,

immediately upon contact or spreading of the oil, etc.)? And for the

record, I can't relate it to any specific supplement change (I take a lot of

them) - I suppose it could be stress-related, but that is too easy a

bucket!)

Thanks in advance for your help - and especially you, - I hope you

qualify for disability the first time and it goes smoothly. For all you've

done for us, you deserve it!!!

[Editor's Note: Hi, Geri; Thank you for the kind words. They are much

appreciated.

The skin symptomology you describe is familiar, at least at the First Order

of Approximation: I had small clusters of these tiny pimples on my hands and

feet, that acted pretty much as yours. It never converted to the psoriasis I'm

personnally familiar with (garden variety plaque P). I also had aggressive P on

the bottom of my feet; they just kind of " bubbled up " , and the whole bottom

could be peeled off in 2 or 3 pieces.

OK, what can we say we know, or find highly suggestive?

1. Virtually without any investigation, we have the two of us with PA, and our

P-problem similarities, suggesting we're well within the reality of PA.

D]

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Geri, I have had these same " pimple " looking things, they were first on my

ankle...about 4 years ago. Now they are on my left foot, my left thumb and

right pinkie too....have some cream to put on them too...just started that, no

improvement yet.

[ ] Has anybody experienced this

Hello, All,

De-lurking for a bit to ask a question - am including the details per

's encouragement to do so for clearer explanations ;-):

Prior to 10 months ago, I only had scalp/hairy region type of psoriasis

(although PA since a teenager). Then, after a very hot and sweaty 12 days

in Italy (during which I apparently de-toxed: it was 95 degrees AND humidity

last summer and I drank and sweated enough that I even lost the bags under

my eyes!), two months later, my feet starting aching terribly, saw some bone

growth on that outer bone near the toes and they started itching terribly on

the soles - even got those big calloused things. After a couple of months,

got those to go away (using creams, bag balm and saran wrap ... or maybe it

just happened on its own?) but then the itching spread to the top of the

foot where I got these real small 'pimples' and I scratched so much I made

the skin red (and raised, it doesn't go away once that happens, only

lightens in color) and even made some bleed. Then it spread up the leg to

the calves.

Went to a doctor few months ago and he prescribed a cortisone-based ointment

to put on at night and a cream for the morning. Relieved the itching and

started cooling it down, then stopped working - that was two months ago.

Wasn't bad so I was hoping it had been arrested, no such luck. Last week,

itching got very intense again, scratching is impossible not to do, even

wakes me up at night. And it is now happening on my right hand: this

morning, I can see the very tiny pimples between on a couple of fingers on

the inside next to another finger, and on my palm.

I am at my wits end - the doctor claims it isn't psoriasis, but eczema.

It is better in the morning and during the day, but I think that is because

I am moving, or maybe drinking water (try to drink several glasses each day,

or???). He did mention something about 'renal insufficiency', but

otherwise my circulation, I think is good?

So what do you all think? Is it really some weird manifestation of

psoriasis, or an allergy that is showing up because I 'cleansed myself' and

then 'poisoned myself with something that didn't bother me before (I say

this because it mimics what happened to me when I first went to college and

got away from my Dad's cigarette smoking - I came back clean and strongly

allergic to it, whereas I could tolerate it fine before). There are

theories that skin problems like psoriasis are (partly) due to the liver,

not being able to detox us enough (and of course, everyone's toxins are

peculiar to their chemistry and environment, so it could even be a food or

cosmetic or soap allergen, etc.). And if this really isn't psoriasis, is it

very weird, spreading the way it is (although not like poison oak,

immediately upon contact or spreading of the oil, etc.)? And for the

record, I can't relate it to any specific supplement change (I take a lot of

them) - I suppose it could be stress-related, but that is too easy a

bucket!)

Thanks in advance for your help - and especially you, - I hope you

qualify for disability the first time and it goes smoothly. For all you've

done for us, you deserve it!!!

[Editor's Note: Hi, Geri; Thank you for the kind words. They are much

appreciated.

The skin symptomology you describe is familiar, at least at the First

Order of Approximation: I had small clusters of these tiny pimples on my hands

and feet, that acted pretty much as yours. It never converted to the psoriasis

I'm personnally familiar with (garden variety plaque P). I also had aggressive P

on the bottom of my feet; they just kind of " bubbled up " , and the whole bottom

could be peeled off in 2 or 3 pieces.

OK, what can we say we know, or find highly suggestive?

1. Virtually without any investigation, we have the two of us with PA, and

our P-problem similarities, suggesting we're well within the reality of PA.

D]

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Hi,

This sort of thing happened in my front shin area. It lasted about a

week but then I went on Enbrel the week after and it cleared up. I

didn't even relate it to pa but now that you mention it, it may have

been some weird manifestion of the disease. I can't think of anything I

did to make them decide to show up there. Best of luck to you. I am a

lurker as well.

Tee

[ ] Has anybody experienced this

Hello, All,

De-lurking for a bit to ask a question - am including the details per

's encouragement to do so for clearer explanations ;-):

Prior to 10 months ago, I only had scalp/hairy region type of psoriasis

(although PA since a teenager). Then, after a very hot and sweaty 12

days

in Italy (during which I apparently de-toxed: it was 95 degrees AND

humidity

last summer and I drank and sweated enough that I even lost the bags

under

my eyes!), two months later, my feet starting aching terribly, saw some

bone

growth on that outer bone near the toes and they started itching

terribly on

the soles - even got those big calloused things. After a couple of

months,

got those to go away (using creams, bag balm and saran wrap ... or maybe

it

just happened on its own?) but then the itching spread to the top of the

foot where I got these real small 'pimples' and I scratched so much I

made

the skin red (and raised, it doesn't go away once that happens, only

lightens in color) and even made some bleed. Then it spread up the leg

to

the calves.

Went to a doctor few months ago and he prescribed a cortisone-based

ointment

to put on at night and a cream for the morning. Relieved the itching

and

started cooling it down, then stopped working - that was two months ago.

Wasn't bad so I was hoping it had been arrested, no such luck. Last

week,

itching got very intense again, scratching is impossible not to do, even

wakes me up at night. And it is now happening on my right hand: this

morning, I can see the very tiny pimples between on a couple of fingers

on

the inside next to another finger, and on my palm.

I am at my wits end - the doctor claims it isn't psoriasis, but eczema.

It is better in the morning and during the day, but I think that is

because

I am moving, or maybe drinking water (try to drink several glasses each

day,

or???). He did mention something about 'renal insufficiency', but

otherwise my circulation, I think is good?

So what do you all think? Is it really some weird manifestation of

psoriasis, or an allergy that is showing up because I 'cleansed myself'

and

then 'poisoned myself with something that didn't bother me before (I say

this because it mimics what happened to me when I first went to college

and

got away from my Dad's cigarette smoking - I came back clean and

strongly

allergic to it, whereas I could tolerate it fine before). There are

theories that skin problems like psoriasis are (partly) due to the

liver,

not being able to detox us enough (and of course, everyone's toxins are

peculiar to their chemistry and environment, so it could even be a food

or

cosmetic or soap allergen, etc.). And if this really isn't psoriasis,

is it

very weird, spreading the way it is (although not like poison oak,

immediately upon contact or spreading of the oil, etc.)? And for the

record, I can't relate it to any specific supplement change (I take a

lot of

them) - I suppose it could be stress-related, but that is too easy a

bucket!)

Thanks in advance for your help - and especially you, - I hope you

qualify for disability the first time and it goes smoothly. For all

you've

done for us, you deserve it!!!

[Editor's Note: Hi, Geri; Thank you for the kind words. They are much

appreciated.

The skin symptomology you describe is familiar, at least at the

First Order of Approximation: I had small clusters of these tiny pimples

on my hands and feet, that acted pretty much as yours. It never

converted to the psoriasis I'm personnally familiar with (garden variety

plaque P). I also had aggressive P on the bottom of my feet; they just

kind of " bubbled up " , and the whole bottom could be peeled off in 2 or 3

pieces.

OK, what can we say we know, or find highly suggestive?

1. Virtually without any investigation, we have the two of us with PA,

and our P-problem similarities, suggesting we're well within the reality

of PA.

D]

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